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Originally Posted By Polaris
He has a very difficult time with discussing things in good faith.
Say Polaris, did you hear Pfizer is not responsible for covid?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I realize you don’t like Beresnson(obvious by how often you lie about his claims).

I understand you don’t like him pointing out things that go against the narrative of Branch Covidians.

I don’t think Pfizer is responsible for Covid…not sure what that has to do with anything being discussed. But then again you do love to deflect, divert, lie, and build strawmen so I’m not particularly surprised about you making random statements.







Also:


Health authorities originally promised the Covid vaccines needed at least 50 percent effectiveness for approval.

But the CDC’s own data show booster effectiveness against Omicron is nowhere near that level. Further, the mRNAs have much more severe side effects than flu shots, the only vaccines that are comparable in terms of their (lack of) effectiveness.

This combination makes the mRNAs a very bad bet - particularly for children, who are at miniscule risk of hospitalization or death from Covid.

The CDC itself estimated yesterday that 1 million mRNA boosters in adolescents would prevent at most one death from Covid (and probably zero), as well as roughly 10 Covid intensive care admissions.

(They said it, not me. The real numbers are probably significantly lower, as in zero, but this makes the point.)
Australia:

"All adults can get a booster if it’s been 6 months or longer since their last COVID-19 booster or confirmed infection (whichever is most recent). Boosters give extra protection against severe illness from COVID."

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c.../booster-doses
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Did anybody say they were?
How/why do you interpret his statement as being nefarious?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Say Polaris, did you hear Pfizer is not responsible for covid?
Like I said, I find the comradery interesting
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You have to be a soulless kunt to promote vaxxing children for covid.

People are so easily manipulated these days that you can forgive retarded parents, but the "muh science" brigade have no excuse. Absolute scum of the earth.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Idon'tthink Pfizer is responsible for SARS-Cov-2
We all know who was

Scubastevo :-What percentage of women have STDs? (serious) If I just wanted to go bareback with any girl that I could get with, what are my chances of ending up bed ridden with STDs?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Australia:

"All adults can get a booster if it’s been 6 months or longer since their last COVID-19 booster or confirmed infection (whichever is most recent). Boosters give extra protection against severe illness from COVID."

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c.../booster-doses
More random statements that have nothing to do with what’s being discussed.



The Australian Government has accepted a recommendation about COVID-19 vaccines.All adults aged 75 years and older should receive an extra 2023 COVID-19 vaccine dose if six months have passed since their last dose.
This particularly includes people at higher risk of severe illness, like:
adults aged 65-74 years
everyone 18 years and over with medical comorbidities, disability or complex health needs.



Booster doses are not recommended at this time for children and adolescents under 18 years of age who do not have any risk factors for severe COVID-19.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz


You have to be a soulless kunt to promote vaxxing children for covid.

People are so easily manipulated these days that you can forgive retarded parents, but the "muh science" brigade have no excuse. Absolute scum of the earth.
He's good at spinning the data in ways his audience wants to hear. There's a market and he's dialed in. Gotta give props where they're due.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
More random statements that have nothing to do with what’s being discussed.



The Australian Government has accepted a recommendation about COVID-19 vaccines.All adults aged 75 years and older should receive an extra 2023 COVID-19 vaccine dose if six months have passed since their last dose.
This particularly includes people at higher risk of severe illness, like:
adults aged 65-74 years
everyone 18 years and over with medical comorbidities, disability or complex health needs.



Booster doses are not recommended at this time for children and adolescents under 18 years of age who do not have any risk factors for severe COVID-19.
But kids can get one if their doctor okays it. Any adult can get one, even those under 55.

Isn't the availability to those under 55 a main point you/he is trying to make?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He's good at spinning the data in ways his audience wants to hear. There's a market and he's dialed in. Gotta give props where they're due.
Unspin it for us, chief
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
But kids can get one if their doctor okays it. Any adult can get one, even those under 55.

Isn't the availability to those under 55 a main point you/he is trying to make?
Long Covid acting up again I see. Read it again…a little slower this time and see if you can figure it out on your own.


The CDC itself estimated yesterday that 1 million mRNA boosters in adolescents would prevent at most one death from Covid (and probably zero), as well as roughly 10 Covid intensive care admissions.

At the same time, giving teenagers a million additional mRNA doses will cause anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 cases of severe short-term side effects, such as fevers and nausea.

They will also cause anywhere from 50 to 300 cases of myocarditis severe enough to cause hospitalization (depending on which estimates and what mix of Pfizer and Moderna shots are used).

That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.


You can do it. I have faith in you.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Long Covid acting up again I see. Read it again…a little slower this time and see if you can figure it out on your own.


The CDC itself estimated yesterday that 1 million mRNA boosters in adolescents would prevent at most one death from Covid (and probably zero), as well as roughly 10 Covid intensive care admissions.

At the same time, giving teenagers a million additional mRNA doses will cause anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 cases of severe short-term side effects, such as fevers and nausea.

They will also cause anywhere from 50 to 300 cases of myocarditis severe enough to cause hospitalization (depending on which estimates and what mix of Pfizer and Moderna shots are used).

That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.


You can do it. I have faith in you.
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
But they are responsible for using their influence to persuade our govt. to recommend these injections for people of all ages. This being done while many other advanced countries have realized it’s best tonot advise people under 55 to get the injectionunless they have serious health problems.
The CDC didn't say that. How does he calculate 100,000 - 200,000 from RR's?

Why do you think Alex only include the first slides looking at effectiveness of the original series while ignoring the more recent slide that comes immediately after?

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How/why do you interpret his statement as being nefarious?
I never said it was nefarious, nor do I think it is.

The point IS you keep repeating that when literally NOBODY made the claim. And you know that too, don't you.

And you also know the reason why you keep making it is to avoid and cloud the issue while avoiding the point being made. Don't you.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The CDC didn't say that. How does he calculate 100,000 - 200,000 from RR's?

Why do you think Alex only include the first slides looking at effectiveness of the original series while ignoring the more recent slide that comes immediately after?

So now you don’t want to talk about what other countries recommend?

- lie

- deflect

- divert

- strawman

- play dumb


Lather, rinse, repeat until desired results are met.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
I never said it was nefarious, nor do I think it is.

The point IS you keep repeating that when literally NOBODY made the claim. And you know that too, don't you.

And you also know the reason why you keep making it is to avoid and cloud the issue while avoiding the point being made. Don't you.
Then what are you looking for as a response to the tweet?

Pfizer wants to keep making money? Isn't that obvious?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
So now you don’t want to talk about what other countries recommend?

- lie

- deflect

- divert

- strawman

- play dumb


Lather, rinse, repeat until desired results are met.
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
But they are responsible for using their influence to persuade our govt. to recommend these injections for people of all ages. This being done while many other advanced countries have realized it’s best tonot advise people under 55 to get the injectionunless they have serious health problems.
Just curious how he only included old data in his blog and doesn't explain his math. But, the message his audience seems to be looking for is that vaccines are bad. He delivers
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JustLovesChildren explicitly supports the LGBT cult's grooming of children and the vaxxing of children. He will use every slimy tactic in the book while doing so. A real sicko.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
JustLovesChildren explicitly supports the LGBT cult's grooming of children and the vaxxing of children. He will use every slimy tactic in the book while doing so. A real sicko.
This is a popular strategy
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[QUOTE=J.L.C. post_id=1690042253]Then what are you looking for as a response to the tweet?

Pfizer wants to keep making money? Isn't that obvious?[/QUOTE]Acting stupid still lol... I'm dying over here![img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Try this...

[QUOTE=Bushmaster post_id=1690038193]Focus J.F.C. Focus! We're talking about your sacred COVID here.

And this is my point...

[I]"Pfizer exec on camera literally telling you covid had been a cash cow for them,[b]and that they wanted to keep it going..."[/I[/b]]

Now I can't possibly dumb it down any further for you bro. At some point you're going to have to stop acting stupid if you want to be taken seriously with your covid lust.[/QUOTE][i]"....And that they wanted to keep it (covid) going."[/i]

[b]BREAKING:
@Pfizer
Exploring "Mutating" COVID-19 Virus For New Vaccines[/b]
[x]https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618405890612420609[/x]

Get it? Pfizer doesn't want to stop/cure/prevent/end/whatever covid - THEY want to keep it going in order to make money.

[QUOTE][b]“We’re exploring, like, you know how the virus keeps mutating? Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves, so we could focus on, create, preemptively develop new vaccines, right?[/b]”[/QUOTE]In before semantics
In before acting stupid
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Just curious how he only included old data in his blog and doesn't explain his math. But, the message his audience seems to be looking for is that vaccines are bad. He delivers
The Australian Government has accepted a recommendation about COVID-19 vaccines. All adults aged 75 years and older should receive an extra 2023 COVID-19 vaccine dose if six months have passed since their last dose.

This particularly includes people at higher risk of severe illness, like:
adults aged 65-74 years
everyone 18 years and over with medical comorbidities, disability or complex health needs.




https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c...ecommendations


Booster dose recommendations
ATAGI made updated recommendations on boosters in February 2023, which replaced previous advice.
Adults
The following recommendations apply to adults whose last COVID-19 vaccine dose or confirmed infection (whichever is the most recent) was 6 months ago or more. It does not matter how many doses the person has received before. A person may be vaccinated earlier than the recommended 6-month interval in exceptional circumstances, such as before starting an immunosuppressant, before overseas travel or if someone cannot reschedule vaccination easily (such as in an outreach vaccination program).
65 years or older
ATAGI recommends a booster dose in early 2023 for all adults aged 65 years or older.
18 to 64 years
ATAGI recommends a booster dose in early 2023 for adults aged 18 to 64 years who have medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19, or disability with significant or complex health needs.

Other adults aged 18 to 64 may consider a booster dose in early 2023

ATAGI does not currently recommend a booster dose for children and adolescents aged under 18 years who do not have any risk factors for severe COVID-19.



Why does it appear to bother you so much that other countries are no longer recommending the boosters for anyone who is not elderly and/or suffering from major health problems?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
"....And that they wanted to keep it (covid) going."

BREAKING:
@Pfizer
Exploring "Mutating" COVID-19 Virus For New Vaccines



Get it? Pfizer doesn't want to stop/cure/prevent/end/whatever covid - THEY want to keep it going in order to make money.
Okay. This isn't about suggesting Pfizer is responsible. What is it about?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Other adults aged 18 to 64 may consider a booster dose in early 2023
It doesn't bother me, I just find the spin for an audience interesting.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It doesn't bother me, I just find the spin for an audience interesting.
What spin?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Acting stupid still lol... I'm dying over here!

Try this...



"....And that they wanted to keep it (covid) going."

BREAKING:
@Pfizer
Exploring "Mutating" COVID-19 Virus For New Vaccines



Get it? Pfizer doesn't want to stop/cure/prevent/end/whatever covid - THEY want to keep it going in order to make money.



In before semantics
In before acting stupid
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Okay. This isn't about suggesting Pfizer is responsible. What is it about?
You're still acting stupid.

This has been explained to you on the most basic kindergarten crayon level possible, along with a link to the Pfizer exec caught on camera explaining it to you.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
What spin?
The vaccines are bad spin.

I have an equally cynical/skeptical view of motives in countries with publicly-funded health care, but different than the popular narrative.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The vaccines are bad spin.

I have an equally cynical/skeptical view of motives in countries with publicly-funded health care, but different than the popular narrative.
So when you give up trying to lie about his claims, you just say he is “spinning it” to make things look bad. Did he make any false claims about what other countries recommend? If not, why did you get so caught up and try to deflect?


Also, are you going to feel a least a little bad when you inject children with boosters this fall? Or do you still think you are helping them?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
So when you give up trying to lie about his claims, you just say he is “spinning it” to make things look bad. Did he make any false claims about what other countries recommend? If not, why did you get so caught up and try to deflect?


Also, are you going to feel a least a little bad when you inject children with boosters this fall? Or do you still think you are helping them?
He spins by making up claims and painting a picture his audience wants to hear.

It's an interesting tactic trying to make me an enemy by suggesting I'll be injecting children with something you feel is bad/dangerous, despite evidence to the contrary. My family will more than likely be getting influenza vaccinations, and depending on how prevalence looks, likely covid vaccinations as well.

The comradery is interesting
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Playing dumb, taking everything super literal, creating strawmen.. it's textbook School of How To Be A Weasel which all libcucks seem to be experts in. It's the exact same thing when you try to press him on the LGBT groomer cult. And don't forget the passive aggressive emojis.So much weaselry.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Long Covid acting up again I see. Read it again…a little slower this time and see if you can figure it out on your own.


The CDC itself estimated yesterday that 1 million mRNA boosters in adolescents would prevent at most one death from Covid (and probably zero), as well as roughly 10 Covid intensive care admissions.

At the same time, giving teenagers a million additional mRNA doses will cause anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 cases of severe short-term side effects, such as fevers and nausea.

They will also cause anywhere from 50 to 300 cases of myocarditis severe enough to cause hospitalization (depending on which estimates and what mix of Pfizer and Moderna shots are used).

That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.


You can do it. I have faith in you.
He's adept at making his interpretations seem like they come from an authority. Gotta give props where they're due
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
Playing dumb, taking everything super literal, creating strawmen.. it's textbook School of How To Be A Weasel which all libcucks seem to be experts in. It's the exact same thing when you try to press him on the LGBT groomer cult. And don't forget the passive aggressive emojis.So much weaselry.
When all you have is name calling...

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