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post 1690051973 09-14-2023, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
When all you have is name calling...

Why did you run away from this thread???

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1689405003
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Why did you run away from this thread???

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1689405003
I didn't.

I responded to the interrogation.

Interesting strategy tho
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I didn't.

I responded to the interrogation.

Interesting strategy tho
No you didn't

You ran away when the tough questions came

Feel free to answer now though xD xD
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
No you didn't

You ran away when the tough questions came

Feel free to answer now though xD xD
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Why didn't you send nypat $500?
Because he's a disgustingppedo

Are you really a little Asian cuck lol?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
He's adept at making his interpretations seem like they come from an authority. Gotta give props where they're due
This is “his interpretation”.


“That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.”



What part of that statement is inaccurate??
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
This is “his interpretation”.


“That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.”



What part of that statement is inaccurate??
Which math?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which math?
The numbers referenced right before that paragraph that I know you’ve already read but are for some reason playing dumb again.

Page 65 of the CDC slideshow if you want to revisit
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
The numbers referenced right before that paragraph that I know you’ve already read but are for some reason playing dumb again.

Page 65 of the CDC slideshow if you want to revisit
How is he getting predicted events from RR? Are those RR's relative to infected without vaccination?

While risky, I assume he used regression. Are the data and code available? Did he supersize the regression himself?

I've been criticised for sharing estimates in a 10% range. He's got a range of 100,000 events.


There's only 33 slides.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How is he getting predicted events from RR? Are those RR's relative to infected without vaccination?

While risky, I assume he used regression. Are the data and code available? Did he supersize the regression himself?

I've been criticised for sharing estimates in a 10% range. He's got a range of 100,000 events.


There's only 33 slides.
The source is there. Can’t help it if you can’t find it
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
The source is there. Can’t help it if you can’t find it
This is slide 65



This is slide 66



This is 67



Where's the CDC's math that shows 100,000 - 200,000 bad events?
post 1690068983 09-14-2023, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
This is slide 65



This is slide 66



This is 67



Where's the CDC's math that shows 100,000 - 200,000 bad events?
So you see the source for the saved lives vs myocarditis, correct? Just making sure you’re tracking that before we move on.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So you see the source for the saved lives vs myocarditis, correct? Just making sure you’re tracking that before we move on.
I'm just curious about the 100,000 - 200,000 bag things for kids. That seems important.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
The CDC itself estimated yesterday that 1 million mRNA boosters in adolescents would prevent at most one death from Covid (and probably zero), as well as roughly 10 Covid intensive care admissions.
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(They said it, not me. The real numbers are probably significantly lower, as in zero, but this makes the point.)

At the same time, giving teenagers a million additional mRNA doses will cause anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 cases of severe short-term side effects, such as fevers and nausea.
They will also cause anywhere from 50 to 300 cases of myocarditis severe enough to cause hospitalization (depending on which estimates and what mix of Pfizer and Moderna shots are used).

That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.
give sources next time


and dont forget long covid



u mad ?





cdc recommends everyone
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post 1690070093 09-14-2023, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
give sources next time


and dont forget long covid



u mad ?


cdc recommends everyone
I imagine Berenson is seeing some income from his audience. You have to give props to the hustle.
post 1690070133 09-14-2023, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Sweet

So that is the percentage split between the kids who ended up in hospital.

What is the percentage split of kids in those age groups who got infected vs how many needed hospital care? If 39 million got covid, but only 83 ended up in hospital, that is not convincing me to shoot up my child with anything.

Also, what does "who is in the hospital" mean? Does that data you provided include only for kids who were hospitalized and required care, or does it also include kids who were brought in with fevers or sore throats and were examined and told to go home and rest and then recovered?

Concerned parents want to know....help us out with that important info.
u can vax ur kid and he will be protected against covid or u wont vax ur kid and he wont be protected against covid, its that simple.

will he end up in hosp or dead or get long covid ? Most likely not, but why risk it, even if its a little risk ? he scared of needles?, he throws a tantrum?, ur too lazy to bring him to hosp, or vaccine is too expensive ? then dont vax him, thats up to u monica
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post 1690070323 09-14-2023, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩





You have to be a soulless kunt to promote vaxxing children for covid.

People are so easily manipulated these days that you can forgive retarded parents, but the "muh science" brigade have no excuse. Absolute scum of the earth.
risk of covid on mycarditis is far higher than with vax so u must be mentally ill


where is cdc source
i only see an image

show link
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post 1690070693 09-14-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
... or vaccine is too expensive ? then dont vax him, thats up to u monica
I think this is a key point.

What Berenson doesn't address is that the US is also one of the few, if not the only, "advanced country" without universal/national health insurance.

The CDC can recommend to everyone without any fiscal responsibility because the US has moved covid vaccines over to private funding.

If you can afford insurance, and vaccines are covered, you can get one. If not - no soup for you.
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
u can vax ur kid and he will be protected against covid or u wont vax ur kid and he wont be protected against covid, its that simple.

will he end up in hosp or dead or get long covid ? Most likely not, but why risk it, even if its a little risk ? he scared of needles?, he throws a tantrum?, ur too lazy to bring him to hosp, or vaccine is too expensive ? then dont vax him, thats up to u monica
Why are you so scared of a cold? lmao
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
That math has led most of the world, including Japan, Germany, Britain, and Australia, to stop recommending Covid boosters for children and teenagers. In fact, the latter three countries no longer recommend Covid shots for the vast majority of people under 65.
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post 1690072063 09-14-2023, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Why are you so scared of a cold? lmao
Not scared at all.
Just dont see why i should not lower the risk of covids effects if theres a vaccine available, no matter how low the risk is ? Vaccine is free here and u can get it from the pharmacy, litterally done in 5 minutes, so its no hassle at all.

I cant think of one good reason why I shouldnt vax ?
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
Not scared at all.
Just dont see why i should not lower the risk of covids effects if theres a vaccine available, no matter how low the risk is ? Vaccine is free here and u can get it from the pharmacy, litterally done in 5 minutes, so its no hassle at all.

I cant think of one good reason why I shouldnt vax ?
Not free in the US
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
Not scared at all.
Just dont see why i should not lower the risk of covids effects if theres a vaccine available, no matter how low the risk is ? Vaccine is free here and u can get it from the pharmacy, litterally done in 5 minutes, so its no hassle at all.

I cant think of one good reason why I shouldnt vax ?
You can do whatever you want, shove the vaccine up your ass for all I care. Forcing an experimental vaccine with countless side effects, including death, onto children due to your hypochondria is disgusting. Anyone under 18 has a near 0% chance of hospitalization or death. Medical "professionals" recommending the vax to children should be prosecuted. It's only the cucked NA doing it btw.. wonder why.
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
Not scared at all.
Just dont see why i should not lower the risk of covids effects if theres a vaccine available, no matter how low the risk is ? Vaccine is free here and u can get it from the pharmacy, litterally done in 5 minutes, so its no hassle at all.

I cant think of one good reason why I shouldnt vax ?
Christ, being this weak, you definitely are a drain on society, but at least Big Pharma loves you.
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
u can vax ur kid and he will be protected against covid or u wont vax ur kid and he wont be protected against covid, its that simple.

will he end up in hosp or dead or get long covid ? Most likely not,but why risk it, even if its a little risk ?he scared of needles?, he throws a tantrum?, ur too lazy to bring him to hosp, or vaccine is too expensive ? then dont vax him, thats up to u monica
Bolded is the concern of a lot of parents, regarding the vax.

I asked you for help with very specific numbers.....since you are in the know. In order for the stats you posted to be relevant, answers to my fair and reasonable questions must be available. Surely you are not just regurgitating info that conveniently coincides with what you want to believe? Surely you have looked into it from all sides to form an informed opinion? Surely?

Your help is truly appreciated, thx in advance.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think this is a key point.

What Berenson doesn't address is that the US is also one of the few, if not the only, "advanced country" without universal/national health insurance.

The CDC can recommend to everyone without any fiscal responsibility because the US has moved covid vaccines over to private funding.

If you can afford insurance, and vaccines are covered, you can get one. If not - no soup for you.
Really??



https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/co...y?id=103167181


The latest, updated COVID-19 vaccines should soon be available to everyone and offered largely free of cost, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Though it's the first season that COVID vaccines will no longer be covered by the government, insurance companies as well as government-run programs like Medicaid and Medicare are expected to cover the shot. Pfizer and Moderna had both previously announcedthe vaccines would be listed at between $120 to $130 after they switched to the private market – but that's a price nobody is expected to have to pay.

The estimated 25-30 million adults without insurance or with limited insurance plans will still have access to the vaccines for free through a CDC initiative called the Bridge Access Program. The program is designed to provide vaccines through local health care providers and health centers, and select pharmacies.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Really??



https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/co...y?id=103167181


The latest, updated COVID-19 vaccines should soon be available to everyone and offered largely free of cost, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Though it's the first season that COVID vaccines will no longer be covered by the government, insurance companies as well as government-run programs like Medicaid and Medicare are expected to cover the shot. Pfizer and Moderna had both previously announcedthe vaccines would be listed at between $120 to $130 after they switched to the private market – but that's a price nobody is expected to have to pay.

The estimated 25-30 million adults without insurance or with limited insurance plans will still have access to the vaccines for free through a CDC initiative called the Bridge Access Program. The program is designed to provide vaccines through local health care providers and health centers, and select pharmacies.
That's great

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/bridge/index.html

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/...uninsured.html
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Insurance program
Since vaccines save lives and money, I can see why an insurance company would make that investment.
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