Couple of my friends were discussing, that no matter how ugly,old,poor,bald you are if you use romance then you can probably have a good shot at a pretty girl?

I don't completely disagree but I don't really think that modern women are gonna fall for romance

It's a thot provoking concept.

Looks really matter on dating apps, a man doesnt really get to display his dominance or charisma there. Personality plays a huge role IMO

Nope, they don't care about romance at all

legit.

is only romantic if its from a person they wanna get penetrated by, otherwise prepare to get maced.

How can I make every situation about myself?

-women

Definitely not over a screen that's for sure. Of course it does happen, but those are outliers.

I think, and I have absolutely no luck with dating, but if you lower your standards, there is a girl for everyone. Whether or not you'll be happy to see her face in the morning is another question, but you'll have a girl, and for some people that's enough

No matter how romantic you are, a woman has to be at least somewhat attracted to you first. Bottom line. Anything else you convince yourself of is cope.

I disagree. Women's emotions change so much that whether they are attracted to you can also change with the wind.

Misc still thinks women and men think alike. As if because we as men can look at someone and be fundamentally attracted to them no matter what it's the same with women. But it isn't because women aren't as visually driven as men. So attraction can be much more dynamic with them.

So I do think romance can shift that attraction, but know that it will always be temporary. Like the other miscer said, women are always asking how they can make the situation about them. That's who they are at their core. They'll turn on you in an instant if need be.

I mean women just gotta hang around you long enough for you to make your charm works, work/college/social circle etc.

Only if you are a chad, otherwise it's purely transactional and conditional.

Romance is for after the first time you f*ck until about 3 months in and then every now and then after that

Honestly.. the biggest trick is you need to be a di*k at first

You need to get the whole "is he beta" idea out of the way

Then you can do whatever you want

If you were a di*k at first and then talked about some emotional chit shell prob think you're sweet. But if she thought you were beta and then you talked about emotional chit, she'll prob just think you're a poosy

The former will never be in the friendzone while the latter could be

Youre crazy. So, some guy rocking your world, pushing your buttons, doing a bunch of chit for you..now, granted don't take it like placating take it like this guy is good and knows how to push your buttons

Isn't > someone who doesn't?

Literally all women want to be cherished and on the opposite side not used as a fleshlight

Maybe in some phases they might say they just want to fuk but I guarantee you if you asked like a 60 year old woman she's going to ponder on the relationships where she felt like the guy made her his world or at the very least a FLING as opposed to a ons

Some guy who romances you vs. Some guy who uses you as a fleshlight and then tosses you to the side.. majority of women are going to want one over the other

Ask any woman if she would rather be choked or romanced.

We all know what the answer will be.

Yes, but the amount that romance will actually sway a woman is not enough to take say a 3 to a 6 or 7. It might give you a 1 point boost, but you can also gain that amount from better clothes, working out and/or having decent game. Or as another poster said, social proof can bring you up a notch.

But if you're a 5 you're not going to suddenly sweep an 8 off her feet no matter what you do. Unless you are flowing with money or some other commodity she deems valuable.

First of all, you didn't answer my question.

As expected.

You know you want a guy to cherish you as opposed to using you as a fleshlight.

You know you want your "chads" to romance you as opposed to using you as a fleshlight. But they don't

Well, they pretend to do so to get their nut when they want. They don't actually romance you cause otherwise they would

LOL at "points"

Once again you're basing points entirely on visualization but that is not how women define attraction. They'll be banging some deformed drug dealer or malnourished rock band lead guitarist before your every day gym goer Chad.

Now if the guy is a complete beta slob with no redeeming qualities will romance save him? Of course not. But your points system that you refer to for women isn't based on looks alone. You can be ugly as sin and still be in the game, but you have to make up for it in other areas. You basically admit to it yourself. Other things can bring you up "point" with women, whether that be clothes or social proof or game. Romance is literally one of those points, it has no less value than any of the other things you mention. It's the sum of all that you bring that matters so why disregard romance? It's one of many avenues simple as that.

Of course romance won't work if they see nothing in you though. That's man lands on moon type of sh*t bro.