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post 1690261823 09-18-2023, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Negged. Been waiting for that too.
Hell yeah brother. I'm negging his ass later today when I'm off recharge.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
^^^ I don't even GAF about any "deal" between Putin and Zelensky. Just stop pissing money away already.
I hear that
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
It's been explained to you fhaggots a million times over the benefits the West derives from aiding Ukraine.


Cultists.
Originally Posted By uncle
Just type it out again in "bite size" bullet points, just like bumper sticker phrases.
Originally Posted By uncle
Trump taught us very well, as Silly repeats constantly, that we just put it on our "China Express Card" and let the next person worry about it.

"better things that money could be used for at home"
Why yes, said by all....... followed by none, which includes all politicians of every party.
Make up your simple ass mind Benny.

First you seem to agree with Bodhy that this is somehow "benefitting" us - then you revert back to Trump and us maxing out this "China Express Card."

So which is it.. We benefit from hundreds of billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine or nah.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Make up your simple ass mind Benny.

First you seem to agree with Bodhy that this is somehow "benefitting" us - then you revert back to Trump and us maxing out this "China Express Card."

So which is it.. We benefit from hundreds of billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine or nah.
He'll have an answer after the talking head in the magic box gives it to him.
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post 1690270553 09-18-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
Benefit: globalists use Ukraine to launder money stolen from American tax payers

Anything else?
Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass right now lol.

Imagine losing to Ukraine lmao
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post 1690270603 09-18-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass right now lol.

Imagine losing to Ukraine lmao
Perfect, then they shouldn't need anymore money from us.
post 1690270643 09-18-2023, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By squanto⏩
Only industrialized nation without universal healthcare showing it's priorities

It's both parties, they're both pro-war and anti-you
The only thing I've ever agreed with this dumb ****er on.
post 1690270813 09-18-2023, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Perfect, then they shouldn't need anymore money from us.
Nah. I enjoy embarrassing Russia and Putin lol.
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post 1690270903 09-18-2023, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Nah. I enjoy embarrassing Russia and Putin lol.
How much have you donated to the cause, and have you volunteered to go join the Ukranian forces?
post 1690271073 09-18-2023, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How much have you donated to the cause, and have you volunteered to go join the Ukranian forces?
Nothing. Why would I? Russia invaded Ukraine - I didn't.

I am proud of America doing what Britain and France failed to do on March 15, 1939.
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post 1690271403 09-18-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Nothing. Why would I?Russia invaded Ukraine - I didn't.

I am proud of America doing what Britain and France failed to do on March 15, 1939.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Nah.I enjoy embarrassing Russiaand Putin lol.
Okay then.
post 1690271503 09-18-2023, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
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Okay then.
I hope to god Zelensky gets his $24 billion. It means more Russia losing lol
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post 1690274263 09-18-2023, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
But do they need the aid?
If they continue to humiliate Russia and right wingers - absolutely.
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nolibs should be in urkaine fighting for his daddy zelenskyy and if he dies... oh well... oh no... how terrible...
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
Just once, I'd love to hear them explain exactlywhatUkraine even fukking does for us.
They kill Russians and tie down the resources of the state for a relatively small price.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
nolibs should be in urkaine fighting for his daddy zelenskyy and if he dies... oh well... oh no... how terrible...
Uh why? I didn't invade the Ukraine - Russia did.
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If I was Ukrainian I would be furious because this POS makes it almost impossible to like them
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Just type it out again in "bite size" bullet points, just like bumper sticker phrases.
This has literally already been done, lol. Alongside the persuasive argument.


It has no effect, because cultists aren't capable of understanding an opposing argument or perspective. They just get extremely angry and start flapping their hands like angry children, as evidenced by the butthurt negs I got for this.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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A year of the military budget is around 770 billion. More than enough to absorb this spending on Ukraine, which turns around and directly strengthens the US when money gets spent on weapon systems and munitions we make. We produce more, and our industry is strengthened.

However, the primary benefit is to constrain Russia...who has demanded NATO retracts from Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine...being they want to recreate a "historical Russia". Should they get someone to invoke article 5...we'll be spending a WHOLE LOT more and under much more dangerous circumstances. So, this money is a defense against a possible negative future outcome.

It also helps demonstrate to China that invading Taiwan could be a bad idea for them.

And this is not to mention the value we get from both testing and analysis of deployed weapon systems...and free advertising for other sales abroad.

Yes, it would be good to spend X, Y or Z on various other things domestically. However, this is military money that's already going to be spent on something military related. It's not going to build a bridge or a school. It's going to build artillery shells and stockpile them, or build light tanks or whatever else is on their laundry list.
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Where are Z4 & Sillie? Instead we get the retard whack pack ProLibs, Doodhy, & JLC..this place is going down hill.
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Ukraine is very convenient for fighting Russia without involving nukes. Very convenient for corruption and money laundering though. Zelensky probably siphoning off millions on the side, plus none of his people are fighting in the war, just normal Slavic Ukranians.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
A year of the military budget is around 770 billion. More than enough to absorb this spending on Ukraine, which turns around and directly strengthens the US when money gets spent on weapon systems and munitions we make. We produce more, and our industry is strengthened.

However, the primary benefit is to constrain Russia...who has demanded NATO retracts from Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine...being they want to recreate a "historical Russia". Should they get someone to invoke article 5...we'll be spending a WHOLE LOT more and under much more dangerous circumstances. So, this money is a defense against a possible negative future outcome.

It also helps demonstrate to China that invading Taiwan could be a bad idea for them.

And this is not to mention the value we get from both testing and analysis of deployed weapon systems...and free advertising for other sales abroad.

Yes, it would be good to spend X, Y or Z on various other things domestically. However, this is military money that's already going to be spent on something military related. It's not going to build a bridge or a school. It's going to build artillery shells and stockpile them, or build light tanks or whatever else is on their laundry list.
Wait you think this is taking away from the military budget and they won’t get that money? πŸ˜‚
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[QUOTE=foXs post_id=1690300923]Russia is not interested in that, this is a boogeyman scenario created by the US to justify their ridiculous spending and hostile advancement toward the Russian border through NATO.
Russia is going to invade multiple NATO nations? What kind of nonsense is that. You would need millions of people, this is not WW2.



The flawed logic in that argument is that you think you are weakening Russia through Ukraine and warning China of not doing anything similar with Taiwan, but you are also ignoring the negative side effects from your actions.
All the sanctions against Russia showed many nations in the world how unfair the financial system is and that US has a full control of it, which is why we are seeing BRICS and others trying to either create new currency or their own financial trade/system. This has been a wake up call for many countries out there, and it doesn't mean US is going to become weak overnight but it's a start of a decline.

You might not think a lot has changed so far but consider your purchasing power 2-3 years ago and now, a lot of people in the Western world have lost quite a bit as the prices of everything have gone up. What do you think it'll be in another 5-10 years?

So for the benefit of pissing Russia and China off, you have sped up the decline of your nation as a superpower. And I hardly doubt you are scarying China considering the combined Western world+ can't crush Russia through sanctions or military aid to Ukraine. China is much larger, they produce everything and now they are close allies with Russia, that will supply them with an unlimited amount of resources to help them becomes the main world's superpower.
Look at what happened to Germany's industrial output and their overall economy since Russia stopped supplying them with cheap and reliable energy. Good luck running German industrial powerhouse on solar and wind.
Look at France losing access to Niger's uranium, going from paying less than a $1/kg of Uranium to now Niger demanding market value of over $200/kg.

G7 is fuked because you've pushed your luck too far and everyone had enough.



[youtube]b7URrLHufdo[/youtub][/QUOTE]These are far more solid arguments.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
A year of the military budget is around 770 billion. More than enough to absorb this spending on Ukraine, which turns around and directly strengthens the US when money gets spent on weapon systems and munitions we make. We produce more, and our industry is strengthened.

However, the primary benefit is to constrain Russia...who has demanded NATO retracts from Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine...being they want to recreate a "historical Russia". Should they get someone to invoke article 5...we'll be spending a WHOLE LOT more and under much more dangerous circumstances. So, this money is a defense against a possible negative future outcome.

It also helps demonstrate to China that invading Taiwan could be a bad idea for them.

And this is not to mention the value we get from both testing and analysis of deployed weapon systems...and free advertising for other sales abroad.

Yes, it would be good to spend X, Y or Z on various other things domestically. However, this is military money that's already going to be spent on something military related. It's not going to build a bridge or a school. It's going to build artillery shells and stockpile them, or build light tanks or whatever else is on their laundry list.
People just don't understand the proportions of the military budget. It's such an astronomical amount of money to the layperson it's like saying "eleventy squillion dollars".

There's actually enough there to spend both in Ukraine and on domestic issues. They just see $22 billion and think "omfg, that's a big number" and those big numbers are going to Ukraine, but the war is still going on. So they can't understand how it isn't wasted money.


It's worsened by conservative media saying Biden is bad for helping Ukraine because we need that money for the southern border to keep out evil brown people.



P.S It's also under Lend Lease. It's not just giving Ukraine free chit.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
G7 is fuked because you've pushed your luck too far and everyone had enough.
Repped.

World is also going to hell, and no one is interested to die for noseberg wars. The right wants peace, and the left is too busy chopping off their genitals to fight.

Nothing left to fight for anyway, might as well lay down and rot.

Ridiculous that zelensky let his people go back to their land, while ordinary Slavic Ukrainians bleed and die for his shekels. Everyone can see that to fight for their wars means all you get is a flag on your coffin, while jodie bangs your wife and turn your children out into the streets.

They've been making money off misery and wars from the very get go. Just look at Rothschild, made their money betraying France and betting against Napoleon, then fleeing to America.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
A year of the military budget is around 770 billion. More than enough to absorb this spending on Ukraine, which turns around and directly strengthens the US when money gets spent on weapon systems and munitions we make. We produce more, and our industry is strengthened.

However, the primary benefit is to constrain Russia...who has demanded NATO retracts from Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine...being they want to recreate a "historical Russia". Should they get someone to invoke article 5...we'll be spending a WHOLE LOT more and under much more dangerous circumstances. So, this money is a defense against a possible negative future outcome.

It also helps demonstrate to China that invading Taiwan could be a bad idea for them.

And this is not to mention the value we get from both testing and analysis of deployed weapon systems...and free advertising for other sales abroad.

Yes, it would be good to spend X, Y or Z on various other things domestically. However, this is military money that's already going to be spent on something military related. It's not going to build a bridge or a school. It's going to build artillery shells and stockpile them, or build light tanks or whatever else is on their laundry list.
Translation: "I give Biden and Zelensky a blank check to bleed us dry, and that makes me happy!"

Shut the **** up and get back in your straight jacket GOO.

Unreal... This lobotomized fuk literally says pissing hundreds of billions away on Ukraine is a better use of the money than spending it on our OWN military.
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This Ukraine situation has exposed the living dogshiit out of libs. Remember, it was not long ago at all when...

- Proposed tax CUTS: "ZOMG Trump is gonna bankrupt us! Our children's children will be stuck paying this off!"

- War: "B-b-b-but war is bad and we have to give teh peace a chance!"

- Literally ANYTHING to do with any other country: "We have to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries!"

Now look at them....

"Moar money to Ukraine and Moar war and moar money to Ukraine and moar war and moar money to Ukraine and moar war!"

They even let GOO log on from his rubber room long enough to tell us pissing money away to Ukraine is a better option than spending it on our OWN military.
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