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post 1690248733 09-18-2023, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
does this one actually prevent you from getting it?

does it keep you from spreading it if you have it?
of course it doesn't stop anything. even though biden said "THIS ONE WORKS" - implying the others didn't - and they didn't

as for not catching it or whatever. you just need a strong immune system. get your vitamin D from the sun and be active etc. the opposite of what the biden administration were pushing. you know, they wanted everyone locked down and inside. but you could still order mcdonalds. being a fat kunt and someone with underlying issues is the perfect incubator.

it should be survival of the fittest like back in the day. if you die from it whatever. the jab doesn't help you anyway. let alone thinking shutting down the economy will do help LMAO

sweden didn't have one lockdown, they closed nothing. they didn't enforce the jab or anything - and guess what. they did just fine
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
As usual... you get caught in another lie, so you deflect and try to change the subject. Again
I'm not lying about anything you simpleton, and you are the one in fact here pushing your covid agenda most every day.

You need to back away from me because I'll make you look stupid/stupider
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Flu stats decreased because of covid measures during a time when covid infections were at their highest on a day to day basis???

Boot-Licking logic 101......
yes bc covid is more infectious than the flu, this was known since beginning of 2020

imagine ur mental ilness
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
yes bc covid is more infectious than the flu, this was known since beginning of 2020

imagine ur mental ilness
Really? I'm sure sitting next to someone who has either virus, will most likely lead to similar results.

Except this fall, I'd rather have a weak variant VS the flu.
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
more myocarditis, blood clots and sudden deaths incoming over the next year
You say "more" as if the lies that follow are true...
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
of course it doesn't stop anything. even though biden said "THIS ONE WORKS" - implying the others didn't - and they didn't
Current vaccines work extremely well. Citing Biden-the-moron really doesn't help your case. He made vaccines political three years ago, and it's amazing to see how many people fell for his self-serving crap.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I'm not lying about anything you simpleton, and you are the one in fact here pushing your covid agenda most every day.
You lied about when the peak in Covid infections occurred. Clearly disproven by cited sources. It's not an "agenda" to call out liars when they repeatedly LIE.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
You lied about when the peak in Covid infections occurred. Clearly disproven by cited sources. It's not an "agenda" to call out liars when they repeatedly LIE.
I didn't lie about anything you bootlicking fcuk.

You thought you had a gotcha moment when somebody said the Flu had disappeared, and I provided you with several sources saying exactly that. You then tried to play semantics by saying Flu had "decreased" and not disappeared - like that gave you an actual point.

And your "agenda" is the continued and ongoing defense of your sacred covid.

Day in, and day out, you and a couple of others argue, fight, defend, and go on the counter-attack at anybody who dares to question it for some bizarre fuked up reason. It's weird as shiit bro, and tbh doesn't say much about you as a person, or the Nutsy thatused topost here.

Seriously man, WTF happened to you.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Current vaccines work extremely well. Citing Biden-the-moron really doesn't help your case. He made vaccines political three years ago, and it's amazing to see how many people fell for his self-serving crap.
Lmmfao at saying the boosters worked extremely well. Even most hardcore supporters now admit they didn’t live up to expectations. Hey, if you want to go get a booster then sure, go ahead. But they obviously didn’t “work extremely well”.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Current vaccines work extremely well. Citing Biden-the-moron really doesn't help your case. He made vaccines political three years ago, and it's amazing to see how many people fell for his self-serving crap.
Sure, a fourth booster shot, which you'll gladly take with other numerous jabs, should do the trick......
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Lmmfao at saying the boosters worked extremely well. Even most hardcore supporters now admit they didn’t live up to expectations. Hey, if you want to go get a booster then sure, go ahead. But they obviously didn’t “work extremely well”.
Not everyone accepts Berenson's takes as gospel.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I didn't lie about anything you bootlicking fcuk.

You thought you had a gotcha moment when somebody said the Flu had disappeared, and I provided you with several sources saying exactly that. You then tried to play semantics by saying Flu had "decreased" and not disappeared - like that gave you an actual point.

And your "agenda" is the continued and ongoing defense of your sacred covid.

Day in, and day out, you and a couple of others argue, fight, defend, and go on the counter-attack at anybody who dares to question it for some bizarre fuked up reason. It's weird as shiit bro, and tbh doesn't say much about you as a person, or the Nutsy thatused topost here.

Seriously man, WTF happened to you.
It was crazy, everyone was excited when he came back, and as soon as he did, he was shilling for lock downs, masks, and vaccine mandates.

Hell, he was actjslly pissed when the military dropped the covid jab.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Not everyone accepts Berenson's takes as gospel.
How many jabs have you gotten again?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Not everyone accepts Berenson's takes as gospel.
In his perspective piece, Offit cites data from two leading virologists—Dr. David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center at Columbia University, and Dr. Dan Barouch at Harvard Medical School—who reported that when serum from people boosted with the bivalent Omicron booster was compared to that from people boosted with a dose of the original vaccine, their levels of neutralizing antibodies against BA.4/5 were comparable. Ho’s work also showed that the bivalent booster did not produce appreciably different antibody responses against newer Omicron variants, such as BQ.1, BQ.1.1, XBB, and now XBB.1.5, which together account for 83% of new infections in the U.S. as of the first week of January.


https://time.com/6246525/bivalent-bo...ve-paul-offit/




There’s a reason so many countries no longer recommend them for the vast majority of citizens. Just lol at “extremely effective”.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
In his perspective piece, Offit cites data from two leading virologists—Dr. David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center at Columbia University, and Dr. Dan Barouch at Harvard Medical School—who reported that when serum from people boosted with the bivalent Omicron booster was compared to that from people boosted with a dose of the original vaccine, their levels of neutralizing antibodies against BA.4/5 were comparable. Ho’s work also showed that the bivalent booster did not produce appreciably different antibody responses against newer Omicron variants, such as BQ.1, BQ.1.1, XBB, and now XBB.1.5, which together account for 83% of new infections in the U.S. as of the first week of January.


https://time.com/6246525/bivalent-bo...ve-paul-offit/




There’s a reason so many countries no longer recommend them for the vast majority of citizens. Just lol at “extremely effective”.
I guess that's why even non-mRNA vaccines are now rejigged for XBB

"His view cuts directly against the CDC’s new COVID-vaccine guidelines, announced Tuesday following an advisory committee’s 13–1 vote: Every American six months or older should get at least one dose of this autumn’s updated shot. For his less-than-full-throated support for annual vaccination, Offit has become a lightning rod. Peers in medicine and public health have called his opinions “preposterous.” He’s also been made into an unlikely star in anti-vaccine circles. Public figures with prominently shot-skeptical stances have approvingly parroted his quotes. Right-leaning news outlets that have featured vaccine misinformation have called him up for quotes and sound bites—a sign, he told me, that as a public-health expert “you screwed up somehow.”"

"Offit did tell me that he’s frustrated at the way his views have frequently been framed. Some people, for instance, are inaccurately portraying him as actively dissuading people from signing up for shots. “I’m not opposed to offering the vaccine for anyone who wants it,” he told me. In the case of the young and healthy, “I just don’t think they need another dose.” He often uses himself as an example: At 72 years old, Offit didn’t get the bivalent shot last fall, because he says he’s in good health; he also won’t be getting this year’s XBB.1-targeting brew. Three original-recipe shots, plus a bout of COVID, are protection enough for him. He gave similar advice to his two adult children, he told me, and he’d say the same to a healthy thrice-dosed teen: More vaccine is “low risk, low reward.”"

"Offit pointed out to me that several other countries, including the United Kingdom, have issued recommendations that target COVID vaccines to high-risk groups, as he’d hoped the U.S. would. “What I’ve said is really nothing that other countries haven’t said,” Offit told me. But the situation in the U.S. is arguably different. Our health care is privatized and far more difficult to access and navigate. People who are unable to, or decide not to, access a shot have a weaker, more porous safety net—especially if they lack insurance. (Plus, in the U.K., cost was reportedly a major policy impetus.) A broad recommendation cuts against these forces, especially because it makes it harder for insurance companies to deny coverage."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...dation/675304/
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And then there's this covid bug chasing phaqqot.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I guess that's why even non-mRNA vaccines are now rejigged for XBB
...
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Acting stupid still.

How many covid vaccine injections have you had so far?
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
What about psychological dependence?

How many have you had?
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Well? How many?
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So how many?
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
...But anyway. You gonna tell us how many jabs you've had so far?
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So you gonna tell us how many transfusions of Fauci Fluid you've had or nah.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So how many have you had?
Well? How many?
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Let us assume for giggles that you anti booster folk are 100% correct.
Then what should immune system compromised folks do instead of boosting?

Instead of debating the shots as an issue, what are other healthier alternative solutions?
Think prevention.

If you got nothing, or no solutions, then say it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I guess that's why even non-mRNA vaccines are now rejigged for XBB

"His view cuts directly against the CDC’s new COVID-vaccine guidelines, announced Tuesday following an advisory committee’s 13–1 vote: Every American six months or older should get at least one dose of this autumn’s updated shot. For his less-than-full-throated support for annual vaccination, Offit has become a lightning rod. Peers in medicine and public health have called his opinions “preposterous.” He’s also been made into an unlikely star in anti-vaccine circles. Public figures with prominently shot-skeptical stances have approvingly parroted his quotes. Right-leaning news outlets that have featured vaccine misinformation have called him up for quotes and sound bites—a sign, he told me, that as a public-health expert “you screwed up somehow.”"

"Offit did tell me that he’s frustrated at the way his views have frequently been framed. Some people, for instance, are inaccurately portraying him as actively dissuading people from signing up for shots. “I’m not opposed to offering the vaccine for anyone who wants it,” he told me. In the case of the young and healthy, “I just don’t think they need another dose.” He often uses himself as an example: At 72 years old, Offit didn’t get the bivalent shot last fall, because he says he’s in good health; he also won’t be getting this year’s XBB.1-targeting brew. Three original-recipe shots, plus a bout of COVID, are protection enough for him. He gave similar advice to his two adult children, he told me, and he’d say the same to a healthy thrice-dosed teen: More vaccine is “low risk, low reward.”"

"Offit pointed out to me that several other countries, including the United Kingdom, have issued recommendations that target COVID vaccines to high-risk groups, as he’d hoped the U.S. would. “What I’ve said is really nothing that other countries haven’t said,” Offit told me. But the situation in the U.S. is arguably different. Our health care is privatized and far more difficult to access and navigate. People who are unable to, or decide not to, access a shot have a weaker, more porous safety net—especially if they lack insurance. (Plus, in the U.K., cost was reportedly a major policy impetus.) A broad recommendation cuts against these forces, especially because it makes it harder for insurance companies to deny coverage."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...dation/675304/
So just attacking him for saying what lots of other countries are saying, while doing nothing to address his statements about how ineffective the boosters are. Got it. Pharmaceutical companies use their influence to sway govt. recommendations in order to increase profits. Doesn’t mean they are effective.
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Originally Posted By uncle
Let us assume for giggles that you anti booster folk are 100% correct.
Then what should immune system compromised folks do instead of boosting?

Instead of debating the shots as an issue, what are other healthier alternative solutions?
Think prevention.

If you got nothing, or no solutions, then say it.
Get your boosters Benny.. Get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round. I promise you zero fux will be given by any of us... Which is completely unlike how you all lost your minds over how it was the UNvaxxed who were going to kill you.

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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let us assume for giggles that you anti booster folk are 100% correct.
Then what should immune system compromised folks do instead of boosting?

Instead of debating the shots as an issue, what are other healthier alternative solutions?
Think prevention.

If you got nothing, or no solutions, then say it.
I’d say some immunocompromised should possibly consider getting it, depending on their disease and situation. Others may be better off focusing on improving their overall health by diet(lots of autoimmune issues are exacerbated by diet), supplementing with vitamins, minerals, and/or other supplements to get them through the most risky times of year for them. Could be many different things they could try, again one of which may be the injections.

I think the issue most of us have(don’t want to speak for others though), is not that they are available for some people. The problem is the blanket recommendation for products that are not very effective and that bring substantial risks. This is particularly true when it comes to recommending them for children(and even babies). Couple that with the past experience of the insane pressure, up to and including risk of termination from your job, and it is a good recipe for continued pushback against the rollout of these products.
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hey if you want to get a booster, go get a booster. if you don't, don't.

if you don't agree with this you're a fascist.

hope this helps.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So just attacking him for saying what lots of other countries are saying, while doing nothing to address his statements about how ineffective the boosters are. Got it. Pharmaceutical companies use their influence to sway govt. recommendations in order to increase profits. Doesn’t mean they are effective.
Where do you see an attack?

Much of that is quotes from Offit
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I’d say some immunocompromised should possibly consider getting it, depending on their disease and situation. Others may be better off focusing on improving their overall health by diet(lots of autoimmune issues are exacerbated by diet), supplementing with vitamins, minerals, and/or other supplements to get them through the most risky times of year for them. Could be many different things they could try, again one of which may be the injections.

I think the issue most of us have(don’t want to speak for others though), is not that they are available for some people. The problem is the blanket recommendation for products that are not very effective and that bring substantial risks. This is particularly true when it comes to recommending them for children(and even babies). Couple that with the past experience of the insane pressure, up to and including risk of termination from your job, and it is a good recipe for continued pushback against the rollout of these products.
Offit's recommendation isn't "no vaccination".
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Get your boosters Benny.. Get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round. I promise you zero fux will be given by any of us... Which is completely unlike how you all lost your minds over how it was the UNvaxxed who were going to kill you.

Not an answer...... because i am not immune compromised.
I said if you are correct, **what do sick people do instead***, but somehow you missed that part, intentionally.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I’d say some immunocompromised should possibly consider getting it, depending on their disease and situation. Others may be better off focusing on improving their overall health by diet(lots of autoimmune issues are exacerbated by diet), supplementing with vitamins, minerals, and/or other supplements to get them through the most risky times of year for them. Could be many different things they could try, again one of which may be the injections.

I think the issue most of us have(don’t want to speak for others though), is not that they are available for some people. The problem is the blanket recommendation for products that are not very effective and that bring substantial risks. This is particularly true when it comes to recommending them for children(and even babies). Couple that with the past experience of the insane pressure, up to and including risk of termination from your job, and it is a good recipe for continued pushback against the rollout of these products.
Great reply, thanks
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Originally Posted By uncle
Not an answer......because i am not immune compromised.
I said if you are correct, **what do sick people do instead***, but somehow you missed that part, intentionally.
Doesn't matter Benny, because YOU will still get your boosters anyway.

But ok, I'll play along though..*Sick People*can get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round. I promise you zero fux will be given by any of us... Which is completely unlike how you all lost your minds over how it was the UNvaxxed who were going to kill you.

Cliffs: Nobody cares.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
In his perspective piece, Offit cites data from two leading virologists—Dr. David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center at Columbia University, and Dr. Dan Barouch at Harvard Medical School—who reported that when serum from people boosted with the bivalent Omicron booster was compared to that from people boosted with a dose of the original vaccine, their levels of neutralizing antibodies against BA.4/5 were comparable. Ho’s work also showed that the bivalent booster did not produce appreciably different antibody responses against newer Omicron variants, such as BQ.1, BQ.1.1, XBB, and now XBB.1.5, which together account for 83% of new infections in the U.S. as of the first week of January.


https://time.com/6246525/bivalent-bo...ve-paul-offit/




There’s a reason so many countries no longer recommend them for the vast majority of citizens. Just lol at “extremely effective”.
Why is Rainman ignoring that simple fact?

That the majority of countries aren't recommending the booster unless you're over 55, and immune compromised.

If Nutsy and him had it their way, everyone six months and older would be getting the booster shot.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let us assume for giggles that you anti booster folk are 100% correct.
Then what should immune system compromised folks do instead of boosting?

Instead of debating the shots as an issue, what are other healthier alternative solutions?
Think prevention.

If you got nothing, or no solutions, then say it.
Benny, quit being a bitch and stop ignoring the fact that JLC recommends everyone get the booster.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Doesn't matter Benny, because YOU will still get your boosters anyway.

But ok, I'll play along though..*Sick People*can get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round. I promise you zero fux will be given by any of us... Which is completely unlike how you all lost your minds over how it was the UNvaxxed who were going to kill you.

Cliffs: Nobody cares.
He's not immune compromised, and he's healthy, but saved his masks, which he plans on wearing this fall, and his at home testing kits.....

And he's unsure about getting another booster shot.....
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Doesn't matter Benny, because YOU will still get your boosters anyway.

But ok, I'll play along though..*Sick People*can get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round. I promise you zero fux will be given by any of us... Which is completely unlike how you all lost your minds over how it was the UNvaxxed who were going to kill you.

Cliffs: Nobody cares.
IT DOES MATTER!
If you have some special insight or secret scientific knowledge to share then let us know?
If your degree in virology and epidemiology gives you specific insight, then share what you know?
If it is a placebo, tell us, and give specific Bushmaster guidelines and tips to avoid it.
You know best, so what should those at risk do to avoid this thing?

Have a take and do not suck!

There is only 1 proposed this fall not " *Sick People* can get all of them - then come back around for a second and third round."
I seem to be good, my vitamin mix is working, so i wont be getting any, k thanks.
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