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post 1690434933 09-21-2023, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Do you think a completely average man meets the threshold of the vast majority of women today?
yup
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Do you think a completely average man meets the threshold of the vast majority of women today?
If we're talking completely average before putting any work into his appearance (like losing face fat, skincare, decent hair style, experimenting with beard/stubble), then maybe not. But if he works on those things, then yeah, I think at least he'd pass that threshold.

And that's when the other stuff becomes important.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
yup
********************/hello-love/women-...e-bab0b8af2606
post 1690435503 09-21-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
********************/hello-love/women-...e-bab0b8af2606
women will date unattractive men if they make up for in other ways
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
If we're talking completely average before putting any work into his appearance (like losing face fat, skincare, decent hair style, experimenting with beard/stubble), then maybe not. But if he works on those things, then yeah, I think at least he'd pass that threshold.

And that's when the other stuff becomes important.
********************/hello-love/women-...e-bab0b8af2606

Then this is where you are missing the plot. Women have gotten so insanely picky that this is not enough.

IN GENERAL, the entire problem right now is average men are not attractive to even mediocre women. When 80% of women rejection the bottom 60% of men, this is what you get.

The average woman now thinks "I'd rather be single than with my male equivalent. I'd rather occasionally hook up with hotter guy and try to rope that guy into a relationship, than get with my male equivalent.'
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
women will date unattractive men if they make up for in other ways
Wrong, this is a myth. Women have thresholds for certain key criteria and will filter you out regardless of anything else if you dont meet them. Looks, height, and race being the key ones.

If you dont meet the looks, height or race criteria for a woman nothing else matters whatsoever BARRING extreme wealth or fame.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Wrong, this is a myth. Women have thresholds for certain key criteria and will filter you out regardless of anything else if you dont meet them. Looks, height, and race being the key ones.

If you dont meet the looks, height or race criteria for a woman nothing else matters whatsoever BARRING extreme wealth or fame.
Nope - I literally see it all the time in public, in the zoomer women I work with's boyfriends, etc
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Nope - I literally see it all the time in public, in the zoomer women I work with's boyfriends, etc
What you personally see doesnt mean chit. thats why we use data and statistics to understand the world
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
What you personally see doesnt mean chit. thats why we use data and statistics to understand the world
and that is why you are an incel - cause you want to believe that it is helpless for you and you have confirmation bias

none of the stats matter - you aren't trying to date all women, you just need one
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
and that is why you are an incel - cause you want to believe that it is helpless for you and you have confirmation bias

none of the stats matter - you aren't trying to date all women, you just need one
Unless you're lucky, you need way more than one to eventually find the right person. If your plan is to attract one woman and just take her because it took 10 years to find one woman, well god bless but that's a bad idea.

Most men need to several relationships and many dates to find the right person. You need at bats
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Unless you're lucky, you need way more than one to eventually find the right person. If your plan is to attract one woman and just take her because it took 10 years to find one woman, well god bless but that's a bad idea.

Most men need to several relationships and many dates to find the right person. You need at bats
Sure - but you only need one at a time to figure that out

But god forbid if you were not an incel for awhile and dated a woman that gave you a shot
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Sure - but you only need one at a time to figure that out

But god forbid if you were not an incel for awhile and dated a woman that gave you a shot
No kidding you only need one at a time, but many of these men arent getting one ever, or it takes so long that they cling on for dear life to any woman who gives them the time of day because they know full well it could be another 3 years before they get the next chance
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
********************/hello-love/women-...e-bab0b8af2606

Then this is where you are missing the plot. Women have gotten so insanely picky that this is not enough.

IN GENERAL, the entire problem right now is average men are not attractive to even mediocre women. When 80% of women rejection the bottom 60% of men, this is what you get.

The average woman now thinks "I'd rather be single than with my male equivalent. I'd rather occasionally hook up with hotter guy and try to rope that guy into a relationship, than get with my male equivalent.'
I'm aware of that much cited stat. That actually doesn't say very much about who women are willing to date. As evidenced by the fact that many of those women still messaged and responded to men in the 80% category.

Edit: Also, what happened to that ghetto girl you were going on a date with?
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No one should be surprised by this, it's been a push on social media the last few years and basically drilled into people's heads that anyone shorter than 6 feet, not muscular and not rich isn't a worthy partner.

It's basically social media brainwashing at it's finest.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
No kidding you only need one at a time, but many of these men arent getting one ever, or it takes so long that they cling on for dear life to any woman who gives them the time of day because they know full well it could be another 3 years before they get the next chance
Well it's better to have that one and get some experience and find out she isn't the one you want to marry than sit around and say it isn't worth dating anyone cause the stats are against you
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Wrong, this is a myth. Women have thresholds for certain key criteria and will filter you out regardless of anything else if you dont meet them. Looks, height, and race being the key ones.

If you dont meet the looks, height or race criteria for a woman nothing else matters whatsoever BARRING extreme wealth or fame.
I think an error in your thinking is (a) grouping all women together as a monolith and (b) believing that they all have firm, unwavering criteria that must be satisfied in order to consider a guy at all (as you note, barring extreme wealth or fame).

They don't all operate in exactly the same way, and it is certainly true that they will consider a guy who doesn't initially meet their looks/height "criteria" (you are likely right that race can be an immediate dealbreaker for many) if he is attractive to her in other ways (very charismatic, funny, etc.). It happens pretty frequently (regardless of the somewhat dubious stats you find online to confirm incel views, the fact that a bunch of people are telling you they see this all the time should be an indication that there are a significant number of exceptions to what you believe to be the rule).
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
I think an error in your thinking is (a) grouping all women together as a monolith and (b) believing that they all have firm, unwavering criteria that must be satisfied in order to consider a guy at all (as you note, barring extreme wealth or fame).

They don't all operate in exactly the same way, and it is certainly true that they will consider a guy who doesn't initially meet their looks/height "criteria" (you are likely right that race can be an immediate dealbreaker for many) if he is attractive to her in other ways (very charismatic, funny, etc.). It happens pretty frequently.
Exactly. It's a flaw in the incel mindset in general, they think there's a software program driving female behavior based on iron clad laws. It likely stems from too little life experience.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
I'm aware of that much cited stat. That actually doesn't say very much about who women are willing to date. As evidenced by the fact that many of those women still messaged and responded to men in the 80% category.

Edit: Also, what happened to that ghetto girl you were going on a date with?
The stat is very important. it shows that a raw level how picky women are.

The fact that they messaged men in the 80% category doesnt mean anything, and if you think it does it shows how little you understand about modern dating. Messages dont mean chit. Even if you talk to a girl for days it often leads to nothing, not even one date. The better data point would be how many of those men, whom the women actively admitted they didnt find attractive, actually got a date and then actually a relationship.

If you havent figured it out, very few. Because trying to date women that arent attracted to you doesnt work.

Speaking of which, the ghetto girl ghosted. She wasn't attracted to me and tyrone hit her up so why bother with me.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Well it's better to have that one and get some experience and find out she isn't the one you want to marry than sit around and say it isn't worth dating anyone cause the stats are against you
Not when to get that one you have to endure so much bullchit and become superman. And 'that one' is a completely mediocre woman herself.

At some point the hoeflation is too much.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Not when to get that one you have to endure so much bullchit and become superman. And 'that one' is a completely mediocre woman herself.

At some point the hoeflation is too much.
it beats being an incel
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
I think an error in your thinking is (a) grouping all women together as a monolith and (b) believing that they all have firm, unwavering criteria that must be satisfied in order to consider a guy at all (as you note, barring extreme wealth or fame).

They don't all operate in exactly the same way, and it is certainly true that they will consider a guy who doesn't initially meet their looks/height "criteria" (you are likely right that race can be an immediate dealbreaker for many) if he is attractive to her in other ways (very charismatic, funny, etc.). It happens pretty frequently (regardless of the somewhat dubious stats you find online to confirm incel views, the fact that a bunch of people are telling you they see this all the time should be an indication that there are a significant number of exceptions to what you believe to be the rule).
What you're saying would be true under different circumstances but 2 problems right now:

1. Women have so many options that they do not need to make exceptions for their critera. Either real or imagined, they can keep their standards and have options of men who actually meet them. They can't all be with chad, but many can at least fuk guys hot enough that there is no reason for them to dip down to lower tier men.

2. Many women have no problem being single and/or never having kids now. So again, there is nothing compelling them to lower their standards whatsoever.

This wasnt true in the past, but it is true now. And the results are ugly for men.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...g-to-be-single


For every woman choosing to be single, is a man that's dying alone no matter what he does unless her will.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
it beats being an incel
It really doesn't , its not a healthy situation
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Not when to get that one you have to endure so much bullchit and become superman. And 'that one' is a completely mediocre woman herself.

At some point the hoeflation is too much.
I didn't have to do anything special or endure anything to find and court my wife, or my ex before that, or my ex before that, and so on. And my wife is everything a woman should be, and she's also physically attractive. Maybe it's just you having all these issues.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I didn't have to do anything special or endure anything to find and court my wife, or my ex before that, or my ex before that, and so on. And my wife is everything a woman should be, and she's also physically attractive. Maybe it's just you having all these issues.
Why would you getting with your wife 10 years ago have anything to do with what's happening right now
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I've seen you say that Ice Spice is a 10/10.

Ice Spice is groce and if that's what you consider a 10/10, then your wife must be even grocer.

I try not to attack anyone's family but you always brag about your wife so that's on you.
Find where I said she was a 10/10. Please post it here. I said she was cute in a derpy way, a dollop of downs if you will.

But let's be serious here.

If you wouldn't hit this, you are certified gay.

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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Why would you getting with your wife 10 years ago have anything to do with what's happening right now
If my wife and I were to get divorced I could find an attractive woman to bang within the week. Somehow everyone in my office is getting play, and most of them are short and pudgy. The issue is you and nothing else.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
If my wife and I were to get divorced I could find an attractive woman to bang within the week. Somehow everyone in my office is getting play, and most of them are short and pudgy. The issue is you and nothing else.
How does your success disprove the broader trends impacting men and dating as whole?

"Me and nothing else", meanwhilehttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...le-and-sexless

Weird how record numbers of men are single and sexless, yet some the problem is only me.
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If you wouldn't hit this, you are certified gay.








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