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post 1690625053 09-25-2023, 04:55 AM
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Ukraine: U.S. is financing salaries of all 57k of their First Responders + MORE

Remember back in February we learned that Biden was paying the pensions and welfare of Ukrainians with U.S. tax dollars? Well, we're paying for a lot more than that in the Ukraine.

60 Minutes aired last night and found out Biden has also been financing seeds/fertilizers for their farmers, the salaries of 57,000 of their first responders and is subsidizing Ukrainian small businesses all with US taxpayer money.

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As the war in Ukraine grinds toward its third year, America has provided more than $70 billion in aid, with billions going not just toward the military, but also to help farmers, subsidize small businesses and pay the country's first responders.

The U.S. has played a critical role in bankrolling Ukraine's fight for survival since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, 2022. While Ukrainians fight for their lives, a battle is brewing in Washington over the Biden administration's request for more than $20 billion more in Ukraine aid. Some Republicans in Congress are opposed; hardliners in the House want to cut off all funding while others are demanding more oversight.

How much aid has the U.S. sent to Ukraine?

The U.S has spent just over $43 billion on military aid to Ukraine since Russia invaded — that's equivalent to about 5% of the American defense budget. European countries combined have contributed around $30 billion.

The U.S. has also sent military equipment, including 186 Bradley fighting vehicles, which are worth around $2 million each.

American taxpayers are providing more than just weapons. The U.S. has pumped nearly $25 billion of non-military aid into Ukraine's economy since the invasion began.

How are U.S. tax dollars being spent in Ukraine?

The bulk of America's contribution to Ukraine has gone toward military aid. American rocket launchers are now reaching deep into Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine. The Patriot air defense system is shielding millions of Ukrainian civilians from airstrikes.

Earlier in September, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken made his fourth trip to Ukraine since Russia invaded. He stood next to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba at a press conference and stressed that the U.S. would continue to aid Ukraine.

"The United States is committed to empowering Ukraine to write its own future," Blinken said at a press conference while in Ukraine. "In the crucible of President Putin's brutal and ongoing war, the United States and Ukraine have forged a partnership that is stronger than ever and growing every day."

Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, who served as the commander of the U.S. Army in Europe until 2017, said the assistance has been crucial to Ukraine's survival.

"Without that sort of aid, I think Ukraine would've been probably overrun, defeated, certainly would've lost a lot more," Hodges said.

The war has also impacted Ukraine's financial standing, with the country's economy contracting by an estimated 31% last year, according to the United States Agency for International Development.

The U.S. government is subsidizing small businesses in Ukraine, including Tatiana Abramova's knitwear company, to keep them afloat.

American officials from USAID helped Abramova find new customers overseas. In the midst of war, her company is supporting over 70 families.

"Especially in the condition of war, we have to work," she said. "We have to pay taxes, we have to pay wage, salary to our employees. We have to work, don't stop."

The U.S. government has also bought seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers. America is covering the salaries of Ukraine's first responders, all 57,000 of them. The U.S. funds divers who clear unexploded ammunition from the country's rivers to make them safe again for swimming and fishing.
Read more:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ry/ar-AA1hcgqz




And just in case you forgot that we are already paying for Ukrainian pension and welfare, here is a video of Biden to remind you once again:


Biden on aid to Ukraine - "It's going to allow pensions and social support to be paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something in their pocket."

Biden is guaranteeing pensions and welfare for Ukrainians but can't guarantee aid for Ohio.

America last.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
The U.S has spent just over $43 billion on military aid to Ukraine since Russia invaded
Military aid... I'm pretty sure there's been some big ass cash donations sent too.

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From February of this year..
Congress spends over $100 billion in Ukraine aid in first year of invasion
https://www.thecentersquare.com/nati...236c1f1f8.html

What is the US getting in Ukraine for $100 billion?

In December, President Joe Biden signed a bill with another $47 billion in aid for Ukraine.
https://www.businessinsider.com/cong...terests-2023-1

From August....
President Biden has asked Congress for an additional $24 billion for the war in Ukraine, bringing the total aid to $135 billion

https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-uk...-battles-ahead

“We’re not providing only military assistance,” Tom Graham, a distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations with expertise on U.S. foreign policy and Ukraine, told The Associated Press. “We are obviously providing financial assistance — budgetary support — and there’s humanitarian assistance as well.”

Between January 2022 and January 2023, the U.S. committed more than $26 billion to Ukraine in financial assistance
https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...t-714688682747
Moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and and and...

Right libs?

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[QUOTE=Bushmaster post_id=1690625543]Military aid... I'm pretty sure there's been some big ass cash donations sent too.

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Moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and moar money and moar war and and and...

Right libs?[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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-"Stupid war mongering right wingers!"[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

-"Why don't these goddamn right wingers support our involvement in this war!"[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
-"Stupid war mongering right wingers!"

-"Why don't these goddamn right wingers support our involvement in this war!"
And right off the top of my head I can think of two miscers who have openly called for the use of nuclear weapons in order to defend Ukraine. Just let that sink in...

Roast millions of people and turn Eastern Europe into an uninhabited wasteland for the next 100 years... because reasons.
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Seems as if both cuckservatives and Demorats alike LOVE socialism when it comes to other countries. For their own people? ZILCH!


LOL
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
Seems as if both cuckservatives and Demorats alike LOVE socialism when it comes to other countries. For their own people? ZILCH!


LOL
Yeah? Who would be these cuckservatives who love Ukrainian socialism?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Yeah? Who would be these cuckservatives who love Ukrainian socialism?
The ones leading the government and DEMANDING more US support for Ukraine. Which cuckservative in the government is against spending money on Ukraine is the better question?

And when they get asked about spending more money on infrastructure in the USA what do they say? LOL
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while NYC got $145 million for migrant crisis, Ukraine is getting billions
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
The ones leading the government and DEMANDING more US support for Ukraine. Which cuckservative in the government is against spending money on Ukraine is the better question?

And when they get asked about spending more money on infrastructure in the USA what do they say? LOL
Yeah, well I can't argue with any of that.. I can think of an ass load of things I'd rather see that money go to.

But hey.. Big Z isn't just fighting dem dere Rooskies! He's also a brave climate warrior!
A fast-heating world "cannot afford a single gunshot", Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the UN climate summit on Tuesday, arguing that Russia's invasion threatened international efforts to tackle global warming.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...limate-efforts
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Totally NOT a proxy war though guys srs

Putin BAD!
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
But hey.. Big Z isn't just fighting dem dere Rooskies! He's also a brave climate warrior!
Homeboy is supposedly in the fight of his life. God damn Russian invasion. Millions and millions of innocent people dying every second!

But he somehow makes time out of his life and death schedule for cool photo ops with Greta.

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Just wait until the rebuild, peanuts compared to that.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Yeah? Who would be these cuckservatives who love Ukrainian socialism?
How retarded are you?
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how is any American cool with this
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And right off the top of my head I can think of two miscers who have openly called for the use of nuclear weapons in order to defend Ukraine. Just let that sink in...

Roast millions of people and turn Eastern Europe into an uninhabited wasteland for the next 100 years... because reasons.
Metroins and???
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Originally Posted By beachpro11⏩
metroins and???
goo.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
-"Stupid war mongering right wingers!"

-"Why don't these goddamn right wingers support our involvement in this war!"
So is the US pocketing this money or is it being spent on first responders? what am I even reading?
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
how is any American cool with this
The left have to pretend its no big deal or that its noble, because they have to blindly support Not Trump. If a Republican won in 2024 and continued the same support, they'd change their response to it, but they couldn't do chit to stop it anyway.

The right don't like it, but can't do chit to stop it.

Its basically just a political pit of apathy at this point. The people know the government is going to do whatever it wants, when it wants, and do it unashamedly right in front of your face. The only way for people to semi-cope with it, is to hope it's their party doing it, so they can pretend it's somehow justified.
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
how is any American cool with this
This is absolutely treasonous.

If every single person ITT were black, you would vote for reparations tomorrow. How could you not?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And right off the top of my head I can think of two miscers who have openly called for the use of nuclear weapons in order to defend Ukraine. Just let that sink in...

Roast millions of people and turn Eastern Europe into an uninhabited wasteland for the next 100 years... because reasons.
What is your opinion on Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal based on security promises from the US? Do you think Putin would have ever invaded Ukraine if they still had nukes?

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/t...clear-weapons/
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And right off the top of my head I can think of two miscers who have openly called for the use of nuclear weapons in order to defend Ukraine. Just let that sink in...

Roast millions of people and turn Eastern Europe into an uninhabited wasteland for the next 100 years... because reasons.
It's like the entire Cold War, Mutually Assured Destruction, or every post-apocalypse tale never even happened to these people.

Bonus points for when it's Team Greentard who would rather destroy the entire planet over a corrupt, oligarchical schithole country they couldn't find on a map only a few years ago because Russia! Russia! Russia!

...But you better not use a plastic straw, dammit.
Originally Posted By Procta⏩
how is any American cool with this
"BECAUSE IT WASHER TURN!!!"

I guarantee that the people who are fine with this also complain about the state of US healthcare and every other issue affecting Americans as though all of this funding would just go to something or other overseasanyways. Yeah, the laughingstock US with its soaring debt and continuing reliance on other countries for everything under the sun is just flush with money that we can print with zero repercussions.

Seriously, every single politician backing this along with the entire administration should be facing unprecedented investigated and dropped off in Siberia.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
I believe we should have put boots on the ground in crimea under Obama and again under Biden.

70b is cheaper than us sending boots on the ground.
That makes zero sense considering you said you were fine with a Nuclear war with Russia if it meant protecting Ukraine.

I mean....wattttttttt?? No boots on the ground but a nuclear war is fine. Okkkkkk.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Totally NOT a proxy war though guys srs

Putin BAD!
Putin is bad, yes. If you don’t like the war (as you pretend not to) then look no further than Putin. He could end it this afternoon.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Putin is bad, yes. If you don’t like the war (as you pretend not to) then look no further than Putin. He could end it this afternoon.
Putin SOOOO BBADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Can’t argue with actual facts or logic so BS meme it is
Yup.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Yup.
He's soooooooooooooooo BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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[QUOTE=miscinbro post_id=1690630473]Putin is bad, yes. If you don’t like the war (as you pretend not to) then look no further than Putin. He could end it this afternoon.[/QUOTE]He could, sure...

But that still doesn't explain why any of us should give AF.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Plus, how the hell can you hear shiit like this and not think you're being scammed.

[QUOTE=Big Z][b]“Even though humanity is failing on its climate policy objectives, this means that extreme weather will still impact the normal global life & some evil state will also weaponize its outcomes. [/b]

"And when people in the streets of New York & other cities of the world went out on climate protest, we all have seen them, & when people in Morocco & Libya, & other countries die as a result of natural disasters,[b]& when islands & countries disappear underwater,[/b]& when tornadoes & deserts are spreading into — into new territories,[b]& when all of this is happening, one, a natural disaster in Moscow, decided to launch a big war & killed tens of thousands of people. We have to stop it. [/b]

"We must act, united to defeat the aggressor & focus all our capabilities and energy on addressing these challenges. As nukes are restrained, likewise, the aggressor must be restrained at all his tools and methods of the war. Each word now can become final, but it takes our unity to make sure that aggression will not break in again. And it is not a dialogue between the so-called great power somewhere behind closed doors that can guarantee us all the new wars era but open war of all nations for peace.”[/B]

[x]https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1704203509225119778[/x][/QUOTE]And.... and... he needs money! Lots and lots of money!

...because bad weather.

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Plus, how the hell can you not hear shiit like this and not think you're being scammed.
Because he's an idiot. Talks about facts and logic but can not see the facts or use an ounce of logic himself. If he could, he would realize that Ukraine is simply being used by the US in a proxy war against Russia. Quite literally all the facts point to this. Ukrainecels have been slapped around with facts and logic every day for 18 months in the main thread. And all we get in response is

Putin BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Because he's an idiot. Talks about facts and logic but can not see the facts or use an ounce of logic himself.If he could, he would realize that Ukraine is simply being used by the US in a proxy war against Russia. Quite literally all the facts point to this. Ukrainecels have been slapped around with facts and logic every day for 18 months in the main thread. And all we get in response is

Putin BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Honestly though, I think they all know that and they just don't give AF. Biden tells them Big Z needs a whole lot of money because "reasons" and that's all they need to hear. Proxy war, Putin is bad, Zelensky says climate change - whatever. Just send money.
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