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post 1690823913 09-28-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Boon to the economy...

Illegal immigration to cost New Yorkers $10 billion in 2023, US $150B: report
https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/illega...llion-in-2023/

FAIR: Illegal Immigration Costs New York Taxpayers Nearly $10 Billion in 2022
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301766130.html

New York City’s Sanctuary Status To Cost Taxpayers Billions
https://www.fairus.org/legislation/s...nctuary-status

NYC Mayor Says Migrants Could Cost City $12 Billion By 2025 Without Federal And State Help
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybo...h=25cf5412ed34

Shocking Cost of the Illegal Immigration Crisis to Americans
https://www.heritage.org/immigration...isis-americans

Record $135 billion a year for illegal immigration,
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...h-25-000-in-ny

Cost Of Illegal Aliens In NYC? $1.4 Billion
https://www.thepiratescove.us/2023/0...c-1-4-billion/

Boon to the economy.....
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Except she's not right. They are not legal when they come through the southern border.

And if she keeps repeating what she says, half the retards in this country that follow her will think she's right.
Correct, they did not cross the border legally. But if AOC says they're legal, let her (and her district) have them. As long as they're shipped to New York etc, let them deal with it. They chose to provide their domain as a sanctuary refuge, so be it. Seems like a better alternative than having Texas and Florida shouldering the whole burden like they had in the past.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
You're in your 60s and you post like a 6 year old. Ded fukin srs.

Have fun with that.
I'm 71, but your mom says I have the body of a 30 year old.

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post 1690844773 09-28-2023, 06:45 PM
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"Danger?" Jesus wept.

Send them all to New York to run a train on her, because that's how our border feels.
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does Australia have an economy?
Vegemite?

Maybe we should deport illegalsthere- good luck crossing the Pacific, ass holes.
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Asylum seekers approved legally are in fact here legally.

That probably makes up less than 1% of immigrants. Between 1990 and 2022 its like 800k total that claimed asylum.

Its intentionally super disingenuous but she is not lying. To even use that caveat is ridiculous when addressing the immigrant crisis and dumb fuks will eat it up.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
You are one of the worst posters here.

All you do is sit and complain, and do nothing.

I've never seen you ONCE offer any solutions to this. Just bitching and moaning. You think a con man (Trump) is going to do chit about this too? Lol.
They should be Electrocuted the minute they set foot on American soil. Now you, as a leading extreme left winger, will you press Biden to do this?
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Asylum seekers approved legally are in fact here legally.

That probably makes up less than 1% of immigrants. Between 1990 and 2022 its like 800k total that claimed asylum.

Its intentionally super disingenuous but she is not lying. To even use that caveat is ridiculous when addressing the immigrant crisis and dumb fuks will eat it up.
Everyone who crosses the border is trying to seek asylum now. All those caravans of Venezuelans are seeking asylum. They should have done that in the first country they entered, not ours.
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
She's just not that smart
Wonder how mad she was when she first read Elons reply, lol.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Wonder how mad she was when she first read Elons reply, lol.
Mad enough to say "stay mad" because you know she was mad af.


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Elon went to the border today in Eagle Pass, TX. He uploaded a few different videos:








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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And immigration is an economic necessity and a boon to the economy
We've covered this, it's a cheap and nasty way of bumping GDP, nothing more, to the detriment of all legacy citizens.
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What “imminent danger” are these people in? I must have missed the war, famine, or plague that’s going on in Central America
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AOC is a Jewish

just sayin

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Are these all that mass of Venezualans?
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A simple fact - unless they are Mexican they cannot be here legally seeking asylum. The law says they have to claim asylum in the first country they are safe in. There is no need to travel through 2,3, or 8 countries to seek asylum. Plenty are flying from across the world (from over 100 countries) to sneak in through the southern border. And practically none of them are asylum seekers, they are economic migrants. They're about 90% men aged teens to 40s, prime working age. The ones claiming asylum are nearly all lying, with coaching on how to lie by NGOs. Gee, almost no women or children. Hmmmm.

And again, for those seeking asylum they have to go to the first port of safe entry, not travel through multiple countries just to go to the country with the best economy. So again, they are not here legally. With the exception of some (far from all) Mexicans escaping the cartels, all are here illegally.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
We've covered this, it's a cheap and nasty way of bumping GDP, nothing more, to the detriment of all legacy citizens.
How come professional economists, with decades of theory, data, modelling, advanced tools of analysis etc. to draw upon, seem to agree that immigration is good for the economy? In that it grows the population and brings in skilled workers and even unskilled workers offer benefit in that they work for lower wages and spend their money?

What insight do the Build the Wall! idiots and the hick yokels driving around with confederate flags on their trucks have that professional economists don't? Might it be that they're conflating the economic effects of migration with the sociological effects?


Japan for example has a restrictive policy on immigration but this is for social reasons to preserve their ethnicity. That's even in the face of Japan's aging population which will affect their economybigly.But that's because they value their social tradition more than economic growth.


The trumpers are framing the sociological debate on immigration as an economic one. They're scared of the superior white genes disappearing so they frame the social angst economically: ERR JERBS!

But notice how the ERR JERBS argument isn't really used for Muslim immigrants as much. Because the social anxiety about terrorism is a far more effective form of rhetoric against Muslims than their effect on jobs.



Do you think the average Trumper can effectively partition the economic issues from the sociological ones?



Spoiler!
No, they can't.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How come professional economists, with decades of theory, data, modelling, advanced tools of analysis etc. to draw upon, seem to agree that immigration is good for the economy? In that it grows the population and brings in skilled workers and even unskilled workers offer benefit in that they work for lower wages and spend their money?

What insight do the Build the Wall! idiots and the hick yokels driving around with confederate flags on their trucks have that professional economists don't? Might it be that they're conflating the economic effects of migration with the sociological effects?


Japan for example has a restrictive policy on immigration but this is for social reasons to preserve their ethnicity. That's even in the face of Japan's aging population which will affect their economybigly.But that's because they value their social tradition more than economic growth.


The trumpers are framing the sociological debate on immigration as an economic one. They're scared of the superior white genes disappearing so they frame the social angst economically: ERR JERBS!

But notice how the ERR JERBS argument isn't really used for Muslim immigrants as much. Because the social anxiety about terrorism is a far more effective form of rhetoric against Muslims than their effect on jobs.



Do you think the average Trumper can effectively partition the economic issues from the sociological ones?



Spoiler!
No, they can't.
More than half of violent crime in France is by illegal immigrants. People tend to not like that sort of thing.

Anyway AOC is completely wrong. Per international laws asylum seekers are to go to the first safe country, not travel through half a dozen. If one solely cares about GDP figures then illegal immigration is wonderful. Illegal immigration will never be okay. Ever. Practically every asylum claim is fake. Since when is lying about something so audacious moral? It never will be. Illegal immigration and fake ass asylum are not the same thing as legal immigration. Don't muddy the two.

You're not half as intelligent as you pretend to be. Everything you think is a revelation I learned by my early 20s, mid 20s at the latest.
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
They should be Electrocuted the minute they set foot on American soil. Now you, as a leading extreme left winger, will you press Biden to do this?
Why didn't Trump do this when he was President?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Why didn't Trump do this when he was President?
With the exception of a few months in the past, the number of illegals coming in EVERY MONTH are now on par with the number of illegals who used to come through the southern border PER YEAR. This is a crisis Biden's handlers don't care about. They'll all be long dead before they have to deal with the societal fallout.
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The US is a party to the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention or the Geneva Convention of 28 July 1951. This constitutes a valid treaty.

The treaty defines a refugee as:
As a result of events occurring before 1 January 1951 and owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.
The US also has a constitution. That constitution has a Supremacy Clause. From wiki:
The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution of the United States establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the "supreme Law of the Land", and thus take priority over any conflicting state laws. It provides that state courts are bound by, and state constitutions subordinate to, the supreme law.
How about you racist dorks think it over.

She is right. You are wrong. If you reply with a typical republiKKKaren rant about your precious little fee fees and how your thin skin is offended by immigrants, she will still be right, and you will still be wrong.
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Originally Posted By squanto⏩
The US is a party to the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention or the Geneva Convention of 28 July 1951. This constitutes a valid treaty.

The treaty defines a refugee as:



The US also has a constitution. That constitution has a Supremacy Clause. From wiki:



How about you racist dorks think it over.

She is right. You are wrong. If you reply with a typical republiKKKaren rant about your precious little fee fees and how your thin skin is offended by immigrants, she will still be right, and you will still be wrong.
Legal immigrants? Come on in.

Illegal? Fuk off.

She's wrong, you're wrong. Gotta go to the first safe port of entry, not travel through half a dozen countries to claim asylum. If it's about asylum Venezuelans can and are supposed to do so in Colombia, Panama the furthest they are to go. With the exception of some Mexicans claiming asylum from the cartels every illegal claiming asylum is lying and/or breaking the asylum laws by coming to the USA.

If Hondurans need asylum they need to do it in Mexico. Coming to the US isn't for asylum, it's to make more money. You are wrong, as always. AOC is wrong, to no surprise. She'd have to know laws to be correct once in her life.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Legal immigrants? Come on in.

Illegal? Fuk off.

She's wrong, you're wrong. Gotta go to the first safe port of entry, not travel through half a dozen countries to claim asylum. If it's about asylum Venezuelans can and are supposed to do so in Colombia, Panama the furthest they are to go. With the exception of some Mexicans claiming asylum from the cartels every illegal claiming asylum is lying and/or breaking the asylum laws by coming to the USA.

If Hondurans need asylum they need to do it in Mexico. Coming to the US isn't for asylum, it's to make more money. You are wrong, as always. AOC is wrong, to no surprise. She'd have to know laws to be correct once in her life.
I gave you the legal basis. You talked about your feelings.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How come professional economists, with decades of theory, data, modelling, advanced tools of analysis etc. to draw upon, seem to agree that immigration is good for the economy? In that it grows the population and brings in skilled workers and even unskilled workers offer benefit in that they work for lower wages and spend their money?

What insight do the Build the Wall! idiots and the hick yokels driving around with confederate flags on their trucks have that professional economists don't? Might it be that they're conflating the economic effects of migration with the sociological effects?


Japan for example has a restrictive policy on immigration but this is for social reasons to preserve their ethnicity. That's even in the face of Japan's aging population which will affect their economybigly.But that's because they value their social tradition more than economic growth.


The trumpers are framing the sociological debate on immigration as an economic one. They're scared of the superior white genes disappearing so they frame the social angst economically: ERR JERBS!

But notice how the ERR JERBS argument isn't really used for Muslim immigrants as much. Because the social anxiety about terrorism is a far more effective form of rhetoric against Muslims than their effect on jobs.



Do you think the average Trumper can effectively partition the economic issues from the sociological ones?



Spoiler!
No, they can't.
So the left leaning governors and mayor's declaring state of emergencies are a bunch of Trump supporting yokels?

And when the refugees arrived in Western Europe, sexual assaults skyrocketed, but you continue typing out paragraphs that they're somehow beneficial.....
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Originally Posted By squanto⏩
I gave you the legal basis. You talked about your feelings.
Let's dump them off in your neighborhood then.
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Originally Posted By squanto⏩
How about you racist dorks think it over.

She is right. You are wrong. If you reply with a typical republiKKKaren rant about your precious little fee fees and how your thin skin is offended by immigrants, she will still be right, and you will still be wrong.
Ahh yes. Everyone who doesn't think millions of illegals flooding across our border is good idea must be a racist.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How come professional economists, with decades of theory, data, modelling, advanced tools of analysis etc. to draw upon, seem to agree that immigration is good for the economy? In that it grows the population and brings in skilled workers and even unskilled workers offer benefit in that they work for lower wages and spend their money?

What insight do the Build the Wall! idiots and the hick yokels driving around with confederate flags on their trucks have that professional economists don't? Might it be that they're conflating the economic effects of migration with the sociological effects?


Japan for example has a restrictive policy on immigration but this is for social reasons to preserve their ethnicity. That's even in the face of Japan's aging population which will affect their economybigly.But that's because they value their social tradition more than economic growth.


The trumpers are framing the sociological debate on immigration as an economic one. They're scared of the superior white genes disappearing so they frame the social angst economically: ERR JERBS!

But notice how the ERR JERBS argument isn't really used for Muslim immigrants as much. Because the social anxiety about terrorism is a far more effective form of rhetoric against Muslims than their effect on jobs.



Do you think the average Trumper can effectively partition the economic issues from the sociological ones?



Spoiler!
No, they can't.
So if we were to ship roughly 10 million of the illegals that have come across our border over the last few years over to Australia would you anticipate your economy having a boom?
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Swedish PM seeks help from military as gang violence rocks country

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-rocks-country

Damn, doesn't Sweden know that according to Bodhy, Sqanto and the rest of the progressive left, that immigrants are an economic boon???
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Swedish PM seeks help from military as gang violence rocks country

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-rocks-country

Damn, doesn't Sweden know that according to Bodhy, Sqanto and the rest of the progressive left, that immigrants are an economic boon???
Boy... that escalated quickly lol.

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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Swedish PM seeks help from military as gang violence rocks country

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-rocks-country

Damn, doesn't Sweden know that according to Bodhy, Sqanto and the rest of the progressive left, that immigrants are an economic boon???
Please stop crying, do you need a tissue?

I gave the legal basis for AOC being right. She is. You're crying about fee fees.

Facts over feelings.
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Originally Posted By Mindrevolution⏩
What “imminent danger” are these people in?I must have missed the war, famine, or plague that’s going on in Central America
Having one another as neighbors.

No different than people in Chicago.
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