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09-28-2023, 11:13 PM
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"It's all just hard work and dedication"

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09-28-2023, 11:20 PM
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Test makes you retain water. Water shows as lean mass on dexa scan or any other body fat test. Its a bs study... just saying
You could get similar results with other medications that cause you to retain water that aren't anabolic. Like Prednisone which is a cortisol steroid or even lithium which is a salt used for mood disorders
You could get similar results with other medications that cause you to retain water that aren't anabolic. Like Prednisone which is a cortisol steroid or even lithium which is a salt used for mood disorders
09-28-2023, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
Muscles are like 80% water anyway, so what's the difference? Muscle size still increased. And not just that, strength increased:Test makes you retain water. Water shows as lean mass on dexa scan or any other body fat test. Its a bs study... just saying
You could get similar results with other medications that cause you to retain water that aren't anabolic. Like Prednisone which is a cortisol steroid or even lithium which is a salt used for mood disorders
You could get similar results with other medications that cause you to retain water that aren't anabolic. Like Prednisone which is a cortisol steroid or even lithium which is a salt used for mood disorders

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09-28-2023, 11:33 PM
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What did that one clown jesterbrah say? It only adds an extra 10%?
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09-28-2023, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Well yeah... adding 20 pounds of water will give an untrained lifter better leverages to do a chitty lift. Good to know, will take lithium for the gains.Muscles are like 80% water anyway, so what's the difference? Muscle size still increased. And not just that, strength increased:


09-28-2023, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
That's probably true for most people. Response to gear is a bell curve. 10-15% is probably expected for most people. But some people are outliers and get 30+ %. Most people on gear look like chit but guys at the Olympia are getting way more than 10%.What did that one clown jesterbrah say? It only adds an extra 10%?
09-28-2023, 11:47 PM
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my mind is blown that so many people think elite athletes are clean or that they can tell by looking if their athletes are on PEDs.
also get real annoyed everytime sports fans act like some athlete just drop kicked a baby when one test positive, like that is only the one that got caught everyone else is already doing it so its a level playing field
also get real annoyed everytime sports fans act like some athlete just drop kicked a baby when one test positive, like that is only the one that got caught everyone else is already doing it so its a level playing field
09-28-2023, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
Completely depends on dosages. It's like saying how long is a piece of rope.What did that one clown jesterbrah say? It only adds an extra 10%?
But the reality is most standard doses makes a MASSIVE difference in both physical and mental (e.g. motivation). Makes it wayyyy easier. Cheat mode.
I have several friends who were honest directly told me this.
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09-28-2023, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
It does. Especially the first blast or 2. You literally get stronger every time you are in the gym. But eventually it does plateau. Instead of putting on 20 pounds on your lifts each month if becomes like 5 pounds a month. Still crazy but not infinite gains.Completely depends on dosages. It's like saying how long is a piece of rope.
But the reality is most standard doses makes a MASSIVE difference in both physical and mental (e.g. motivation). Makes it wayyyy easier. Cheat mode.
I have several friends who were honest directly told me this.
But the reality is most standard doses makes a MASSIVE difference in both physical and mental (e.g. motivation). Makes it wayyyy easier. Cheat mode.
I have several friends who were honest directly told me this.
Obviously it works. But I don't buy you can just take test without lifting and put on 20 pounds of muscle. Its 20 pounds of water and as soon as it clears your system, you are gonna be back to the exact same weight and strength levels. Maybe even a little worse off because you are gonna be suppressed for nothing lol
09-29-2023, 10:17 AM
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Notice how the internet and media are so anti men yet pro test.
Its almost like they have some sort of agenda.
Its almost like they have some sort of agenda.
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09-29-2023, 10:28 AM
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You think the animals they pump full of hormones are lifting weights? No theyโre not but theyโre still gaining muscle. Makes sense tbh. Not sure if taking that much mg is wise tho if youโre not sure of the sides. Thatโs why people start off smaller.
09-29-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Before he was outted, nobody ever looked at Lance Armstrong's physique and was like, yeah, he's definitely on gear.my mind is blown that so many people think elite athletes are clean or that they can tell by looking if their athletes are on PEDs.
also get real annoyed everytime sports fans act like some athlete just drop kicked a baby when one test positive, like that is only the one that got caught everyone else is already doing it so its a level playing field
also get real annoyed everytime sports fans act like some athlete just drop kicked a baby when one test positive, like that is only the one that got caught everyone else is already doing it so its a level playing field
09-29-2023, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Wasn't it also discovered that most of the people he competed against were on stuff as well?Before he was outted, nobody ever looked at Lance Armstrong's physique and was like, yeah, he's definitely on gear.
09-29-2023, 10:52 AM
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09-29-2023, 10:52 AM
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I don't care what goal you are talking about....
the gym, finances, life situation advancement, etc.
Hard work and dedication are tools that can help you achieve goals, however they are not necessary to achieve goals as many people do without an application of them. Additionally, having them and displaying them on a regular basis does not provide any relevant guarantee that the goals will be achieved.
Luck is much more important.
In this case, the luck to have access to the supplements, etc.
the gym, finances, life situation advancement, etc.
Hard work and dedication are tools that can help you achieve goals, however they are not necessary to achieve goals as many people do without an application of them. Additionally, having them and displaying them on a regular basis does not provide any relevant guarantee that the goals will be achieved.
Luck is much more important.
In this case, the luck to have access to the supplements, etc.
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09-29-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
When was the last time your mother slapped you for being a pretentious kunt?I don't care what goal you are talking about....
the gym, finances, life situation advancement, etc.
Hard work and dedication are tools that can help you achieve goals, however they are not necessary to achieve goals as many people do without an application of them. Additionally, having them and displaying them on a regular basis does not provide any relevant guarantee that the goals will be achieved.
Luck is much more important.
In this case, the luck to have access to the supplements, etc.
the gym, finances, life situation advancement, etc.
Hard work and dedication are tools that can help you achieve goals, however they are not necessary to achieve goals as many people do without an application of them. Additionally, having them and displaying them on a regular basis does not provide any relevant guarantee that the goals will be achieved.
Luck is much more important.
In this case, the luck to have access to the supplements, etc.
I bet the doctor slapped you twice because he could already tell.
09-29-2023, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Suggesting luck is required for achievement is exactly the opposite of pretentious.When was the last time your mother slapped you for being a pretentious kunt?
I bet the doctor slapped you twice because he could already tell.
I bet the doctor slapped you twice because he could already tell.
Thread is about me now.
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