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post 1690898703 09-29-2023, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Like I said, your claim is unsupported.
Incorrect.

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths.”

Soo..

“Confirmed & Unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Incorrect.

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths.”

Soo..

“Confirmed & Unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
All deaths were not called covid deaths. Prove otherwise.

"Unconfirmed", "probable", and "all" are not synonyms.

But, as I wrote, I do believe you heard or read that somewhere
post 1690898763 09-29-2023, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
All deaths were not called covid deaths. Prove otherwise.
Let’s try this for the fourth time..

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths.”

Soo..

“Confirmed & Unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
post 1690898813 09-29-2023, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Let’s try this for the fourth time..

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths.”

Soo..

“Confirmed & Unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
You can paste the same thing over and over forever. It's not a supported claim.

The incongruity is contained in what you're pasting and then claiming
post 1690898833 09-29-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You can paste the same thing over and over forever. It's not a supported claim.
It kinda is though…if they were labeling both confirmed & unconfirmed cases/deaths as positive for Covid, what’s the third option that would negate all deaths?
post 1690898863 09-29-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
It kinda is though…if they were labeling both confirmed & unconfirmed cases/deaths as positive for Covid, what’s the third option that would negate all deaths?
Where is the word "unconfirmed" appearing?
post 1690898973 09-29-2023, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where is the word "unconfirmed" appearing?
Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths.”

Now follow the link:..

“Total Cases = reported total cumulative count of detected and laboratory (and sometimes, depending on the country reporting them and the criteria adopted at the time, also clinically) confirmed positive and sometimes - depending on the country reporting standards - also presumptive, suspect, or probable cases of detected infection. Because it represents a cumulative count (rather than a snapshot of the number of current cases at any given time), this number can't decrease. The size of the gap between detected (whether confirmed, suspect or probable) and reported cases versus actual cases will depend on the number of tests performed and on the country's transparency in reporting. Most estimates have put the number of undetected cases at several multiples of detected cases”


Unconfirmed-as in “not confirmed”

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unconfirmed

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/unconfirmed

Definitions matter
post 1690899253 09-29-2023, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Definitions matter
Agreed.

They quote says "probable".

Capitalizing on nuance is key for a convincing gift.

I'm curious where you heard or read the claim. Are your willing to share the source?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Agreed.

They quote says "probable".

Capitalizing on nuance is key for a convincing gift.

I'm curious where you heard or read the claim. Are your willing to share the source?
A definition of a word is now a “nuance”…if it’s not confirmed then by definition it is “unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
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Originally Posted By Paul
A definition of a word is now a “nuance”…if it’s not confirmed then by definition it is “unconfirmed”…what other option is there?
"Probableadjective

1: supported by evidence strong enough to establish presumption but not proof
a probable hypothesis
2: establishing a probability
probable evidence
3: likely to be or become true or real
probable outcome"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/probable


"Unconfrimedadjective

: of uncertain existence, truth, or accuracy : not confirmed"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unconfirmed

"Nuancenoun

1: a subtle distinction or variation
Nuances of flavor and fragrance cannot be described accurately …

2: a subtle quality : NICETY
… the nuances of an individual's voice …

3: sensibility to, awareness of, or ability to express delicate shadings (as of meaning, feeling, or value)"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuance
post 1690902123 09-29-2023, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
"Probableadjective

1: supported by evidence strong enough to establish presumption but not proof
a probable hypothesis
2: establishing a probability
probable evidence
3: likely to be or become true or real
probable outcome"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/probable


"Unconfrimedadjective

: of uncertain existence, truth, or accuracy : not confirmed"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unconfirmed

"Nuancenoun

1: a subtle distinction or variation
Nuances of flavor and fragrance cannot be described accurately …

2: a subtle quality : NICETY
… the nuances of an individual's voice …

3: sensibility to, awareness of, or ability to express delicate shadings (as of meaning, feeling, or value)"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuance
unconfirmed
adjective
un·​con·​firmed ˌən-kən-ˈfərmd
Synonyms of unconfirmed
: of uncertain existence, truth, or accuracy : not confirmed

“Not confirmed”


So what’s the other option?
post 1690902563 09-29-2023, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
unconfirmed
adjective
un·​con·​firmed ˌən-kən-ˈfərmd
Synonyms of unconfirmed
: of uncertain existence, truth, or accuracy : not confirmed

“Not confirmed”


So what’s the other option?
Where in the quote does it say "unconfirmed"?
post 1690902933 09-29-2023, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where in the quote does it say "unconfirmed"?
Oh, so “suspect” or “probable” (as it states in link) is not unconfirmed?


SYNONYMS FOR
suspect


open

doubtable
dubious
fishy
incredible
problematic
questionable
ridiculous
shaky
suspicious
unbelievable
uncertain
unclear
unlikely
unsure


Quite a few ways to say unconfirmed I guess
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Originally Posted By Paul
Oh, so “suspect” or “probable” (as it states in link) is not unconfirmed?


SYNONYMS FOR
suspect


open

doubtable
dubious
fishy
incredible
problematic
questionable
ridiculous
shaky
suspicious
unbelievable
uncertain
unclear
unlikely
unsure


Quite a few ways to say unconfirmed I guess
Wat?

Unconfirmed =/= probable

If your claim is counter, prove it
post 1690905573 09-29-2023, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Wat?

Unconfirmed =/= probable

If your claim is counter, prove it
The link says “probable”..or “suspect”.

As in..

doubtable
dubious
fishy
incredible
problematic
questionable
ridiculous
shaky
suspicious
unbelievable
uncertain
unclear
unlikely
unsure

Sounds like unconfirmed to me.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Sounds like unconfirmed to me.
This is my point.
post 1690906383 09-29-2023, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This is my point.
I understand, English is not your forte.

Let’s try this in a scenario.

Do you have Covid?

-It’s uncertain, the doctors said it was unlikely

Oh, so it’s unconfirmed?

-Correct.


See how that works shill?
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Covid-19 vaccine boosters and masks mandated for staff at Piedmont Fayette Hospital

https://thecitizen.com/2023/09/28/co...ette-hospital/

Workers at Piedmont Fayette Hospital in Fayetteville, Georgia have recently been informed that in the next month, they must each receive the latest Covid-19 vaccine booster, or they will be required to wear a mask while at work for five months.

How does any of the above make sense???
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