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post 1690901013 09-29-2023, 07:26 PM
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RFK Jr. to run for president as INDEPENDENT in 2024



Robert F Kennedy Jr is reported to be ending his challenge to Joe Biden for the Democratic presidential nomination and run instead as an independent candidate, in a move that could upset the 2024 race for the White House.

Kennedy, 69 and a scion of a famous political dynasty – a son of the former US attorney general and New York senator Robert F Kennedy, and a nephew of the former president John F Kennedy – will announce his run in Pennsylvania on 9 October, according to Mediaite.

Robert Kennedy Jr at an event at the Iowa state fair last Saturday.
RFK Jr draws quite a crowd – what does it mean for 2024?
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“Bobby feels that the Democratic National Committee is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy so an independent run is the only way to go,” the website quoted a “Kennedy campaign insider” as saying.

Whether Kennedy; Cornel West, the Green party pick; or a notional nominee backed by No Labels, a supposedly centrist group, a third-party candidate is widely seen to be likely to peel more support from Biden than the likely Republican nominee, Donald Trump, thereby potentially handing the presidency to the Republican.

Kennedy is an attorney who made his name as an environmental campaigner before achieving notoriety as a prominent vaccine sceptic, particularly over Covid-19. His campaign has been rife with controversy, not least in a podcast interview released this week in which he repeated a conspiracy theory about the 9/11 attacks on New York.

His campaign has also been roiled by an antisemitism scandal after Kennedy told reporters at a press dinner that Covid-19 was “ethnically targeted” at white people and Black people, while Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people had greater immunity. The false claim was embraced by neo-Nazi groups and condemned by scientists and Jewish organizations.

Kennedy’s remarks echoed antisemitic tropes that circulated widely during the pandemic and portrayed the coronavirus as a global Jewish plot, causing members of Kennedy’s own family to denounce him for “deplorable and untruthful” comments.

Polling has shown Kennedy performing relatively well against Biden, the incumbent president, in the Democratic primary, but not close to posing a serious threat.

However, Biden aides are reportedly nervous about the possible impact of third-party candidates in a likely presidential election match-up with Trump.

Polling shows widespread concerns, including among Democrats, that at 80, Biden is too old to serve an effective second term in the White House. Trump is only three years younger – and faces 91 criminal charges, including for election subversion, and assorted civil threats – but polls show less concern among his fervent Republican base that he could be unfit to return to office.

Rightwing figures – prominent among them Steve Bannon, formerly Trump’s White House strategist – have encouraged Kennedy to run against Biden or as an independent.

As cited by Mediaite, in July the Fox News host Greg Gutfeld said: “I think he should run as a third-party candidate because I do think he should, he would win.”

But not every observer thought Kennedy’s move would be bad for Biden.

Joe Conason, the editor of the National Memo, said: “Go Bobby! Running ‘independent’ means you’ll draw more voters from the candidate you resemble most in political ideology, personal conduct, and narcissistic mentality. (That’s Trump, not Biden.)”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...president-2024
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RFK Jr 2024 - Make America Alpha Again

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post 1690901423 09-29-2023, 07:37 PM
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who would that hurt more, biden or trump
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
post 1690901743 09-29-2023, 07:47 PM
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Democrats have gone so far over the edge that RFK Jr is a considered an extremist outlier LMFAO.

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post 1690902213 09-29-2023, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26
who would that hurt more, biden or trump
Nate Silver says it's good news for Biden

post 1690902533 09-29-2023, 08:08 PM
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Biden is going to be looking like Gas from Dragon Ball if he keeps aging so fast





It truly is fascinating how this old fuker got more votes than a prime Obama
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Originally Posted By benedetto27
RFK Jr 2024 - Make America Alpha Again

Noice!!!!

But he's spoken up against the Covid vaccines, therefore his presence will hurt Trump more. Will the DNC be able to drag meat puppet Biden to November 2024? That's a long time for someone with dementia and who is physically taxed by working any weekends or past the afternoon. If Biden has to do some real campaigning with long hours it's going to rek him unless they give him some pep injections.
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post 1690904913 09-29-2023, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26
who would that hurt more, biden or trump
Biden by far, particularly in purple states
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post 1690905003 09-29-2023, 09:05 PM
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Just found a poll conducted by YouGov sampled from Sept 15-18 that would look like this:









Rasmussen also has Trump getting the nod:
A third of Democratic voters would likely vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. if he runs as an independent in the 2024 presidential election, according to a new survey, potentially handing victory to Donald Trump.

The Rasmussen Reports poll found 57 percent of likely Democratic voters plan to support Biden in the Democratic primaries, as opposed to 25 percent for Kennedy, three percent for Marianne Williamson and seven percent for any other candidate.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-f...didate-1828858
post 1690905223 09-29-2023, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Biden by far, particularly in purple states
I just do not see the logic here.

RFK as an I, IMO, would dilute the democrat votes and bolster Trump.
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post 1690905323 09-29-2023, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
I just do not see the logic here.

RFK as an I, IMO, would dilute the democrat votes and bolster Trump.
Yeh that's what I'm saying, it hurts Biden. Especially as policy is takked about, and people on the Right realize he's not a conservative

In red states, he won't have much traction, but can really hurt Biden in the cities
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It’s going to hurt Trump. The left HATES Kennedy. Nobody who’d vote Biden is going to vote RFK. We need to put pressure on him to drop out.
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He's gonna get whacked soon or drop out from the race. He was right about the ashkenazi jews and chinese.
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Originally Posted By BespokenBrah
He's gonna get whacked soon or drop out from the race. He was right about the ashkenazi jews and chinese.
What did he say?
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26
who would that hurt more, biden or trump
Trump. Dems hate RFK. They think he's an anti vaxxer.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
Trump. Dems hate RFK. They think he's an anti vaxxer.
Lol what? Coastal elitist hipster dems maybe but older rust belt dems love him for the kennedy name alone. He couls pull 10% of the dems and majorly fuk them
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
It’s going to hurt Trump. The left HATES Kennedy. Nobody who’d vote Biden is going to vote RFK. We need to put pressure on him to drop out.
The Left media hates RFK, not it's base. He was still pulling 15-20%
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Hopefully he stays safe until the election. God bless RFK
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No one on the right is voting him over Trump. This will only hurt Biden/whatever puppet dems run.
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I'd vote for him. Screw these front runners on the left and right, especially the democrats, what utter scumbags they have become.
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Originally Posted By akferd
No one on the right is voting him over Trump. This will only hurt Biden/whatever puppet dems run.
Originally Posted By JayJ350
I'd vote for him. Screw these front runners on the left and right, especially the democrats, what utter scumbags they have become.
Awkward.
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If for some reason Trump isn't in the general election, I'd vote for RFK. He isn't a modern democrat that's hell bent on fűcking the country like mush brains currently office
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I've read about him being portrayed as a threat to Biden, but he's more likely to draw voters away from Trump based on what the polls are saying.


A huge amount of voters vote against Trump rather than for Biden, and voting for RFK doesn't mean Trump can't assume office. A win for the Biden administration.

I can't see a Biden voter suddenly swinging around to RFK because of the difference in policy positions, like vaccines and the Ukraine war, they resonate more with Trump cultists than leftists.
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I've read about him being portrayed as a threat to Biden, but he's more likely to draw voters away from Trump based on what the polls are saying.


A huge amount of voters vote against Trump rather than for Biden, and voting for RFK doesn't mean Trump can't assume office. A win for the Biden administration.

I can't see a Biden voter suddenly swinging around to RFK because of the difference in policy positions, like vaccines and the Ukraine war, they resonate more with Trump cultists than leftists.
Once again wrong with your farcical claims
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In a fair election, I'd see it hurting the left more.
Conservatives and the Righties arent going to vote for him. That leaves Independents, and Dems who aren't happy with the Lefts current policies/ ideology.
Joe and the blowjob queen aren't very popular.

They'll fraud, so this won't be an issue.

I think it'll be Michael and Newscum anyway. It's gotten so bad w Joe that they have him wearing sneakers to prevent him from falling.
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Would he be allowed to debate the big two like Perot vs. Bill vs. Bush Sr.?
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Would he be allowed to debate the big two like Perot vs. Bill vs. Bush Sr.?
The Democratic and Republican parties have made sure they have sole authority since those days.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26
who would that hurt more, biden or trump
I'd say Biden, but probably less than one would think. I would probably vote RFK Jr over Trump (as if my Texas vote matters).
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Lol what? Coastal elitist hipster dems maybe but older rust belt dems love him for the kennedy name alone. He couls pull 10% of the dems and majorly fuk them
I hope ur right.
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