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Yeah road tripping or towing with an EV is a lifestyle choice that requires sacrifice, as does owning an EV when you don't have access to overnight charging in your garage etc
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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
I mean, even if the OP got a Toyota Corolla he wouldn't tow with it because its a sedan. I'm in California where the weather is pretty mild year round so its really tempting for me to get an EV. I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but my next car may be one in a few years. Probably won't be a tesla, but something like a Lucid Air.Being tethered to wall outlets for driving sounds like an okay idea until you have to tow something or live somewhere where it occasionally gets cold.
10-10-2023, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
your thread backfired.Strong user name to refusing to evolve when it comes to cars.
You must be horse crew.
You must be horse crew.
You ignore all the recalls.
Have fun when it gets cold
10-10-2023, 08:34 AM
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lol @ $1000 car payment. Have fun with that.
lol @ dying in a burning tesla
lol @ dying in a burning tesla
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10-10-2023, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Keeping up with the times...ok boomer. You can't even fix a computer yet you bitch when it has thousands in repairs.your thread backfired.
You ignore all the recalls.
Have fun when it gets cold
You ignore all the recalls.
Have fun when it gets cold
Stfu already.
You are coping being a sheep like everyone else.
"I'zzz gotzzz to save da environmentzzzz.....I gotzzz to gooozzzz green."
Green my ass you liberal cock sucker.
Remember this when your car is getting hacked or better yet stolen.
10-10-2023, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
Holy chit thats some of the worst build quality I've ever seen. Just lmao @ these wooly hatted 'save teh planet' EVcucksHell yeah, brother!
10-10-2023, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By LuigiMiami631⏩
Wtf are u talking about? I don't own a tesla you retardKeeping up with the times...ok boomer. You can't even fix a computer yet you bitch when it has thousands in repairs.
Stfu already.
You are coping being a sheep like everyone else.
"I'zzz gotzzz to save da environmentzzzz.....I gotzzz to gooozzzz green."
Green my ass you liberal cock sucker.
Remember this when your car is getting hacked or better yet stolen.
Stfu already.
You are coping being a sheep like everyone else.
"I'zzz gotzzz to save da environmentzzzz.....I gotzzz to gooozzzz green."
Green my ass you liberal cock sucker.
Remember this when your car is getting hacked or better yet stolen.
10-10-2023, 08:48 AM
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I mean, you also thought it was MATHEMATICALLY incorrect that a 50% loss on a stock requires a 100% gain to get back to even, so I'm not surprised you think Teslas are amazing lmao.
10-10-2023, 09:13 AM
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Yeah I can't wait to drive a washing machine around with zero emotion. V8s are stupid with their beethoven Symphony No. 3 sounding exhaust.
Gonna be great when all gas is phased out..
Gonna be great when all gas is phased out..
10-10-2023, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Combustion vehicles will likely become toys for the wealthy, tends to be the way these things goYeah I can't wait to drive a washing machine around with zero emotion. V8s are stupid with their beethoven Symphony No. 3 sounding exhaust.
Gonna be great when all gas is phased out..
Gonna be great when all gas is phased out..
IE horses are now for the wealthy, mechanical watches are for the wealthy
10-10-2023, 09:28 AM
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I like EVs. I drive a plug in hybrid daily that gets around 45 miles in EV mode.
Not sure I'd want to drive an all EV vehicle though.
I hope that Biden's EV mandate, outlawing gas powered cars in a few years, is revoked. Most Americans can not afford to buy an EV. They are to expensive.
Car Bans Could Be a Deciding Factor in 2024
Urban Democrats love them, everyone else hates them.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/car-ban...actor-in-2024/
9 Democrat-run states, California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon, Rhode Island and Washington, have moved to ban cars by 2035.
The Biden administration has exploited EPA emissions standards to accomplish the same thing.
The green push to ban cars and force everyone to buy electric vehicles is a core part of the program and also highly unpopular with families struggling with high prices and inflation. Electric vehicles are far more expensive and much less reliable than cars and most can’t afford them.
59% of Americans oppose a ban on cars while only 40% support it. But, in worse news for banners, support for the ban has consistently fallen over the last years by 7% while opposition to it has increased. Republicans and Independents are obviously stalwartly opposed, but even among Democrats, opposition has grown until a third of Dems is opposed.
On a state by state level, opposition remains strong even in states whose Democrat governors unwisely chose to sign on to a 2035 car ban date. In Maryland, 60% opposed Gov. Wes Moore’s car ban while in New Jersey some 58% are opposed including 42% of Democrats. In Washington, 48% opposed Gov. Jay Inslee’s car ban while 38% backed it. Of those who opposed it, 31% were strongly opposed.
In Virginia, which was put on track to a car ban by following California’s illegal emissions mandates, 58% oppose a gas car ban while only 33% support it. Tellingly, while 42% strongly oppose a car ban only 12% strongly support one. Even among Democrats, support and opposition are nearly tied 44% to 43%. In Minnesota, 65% oppose a car ban while only 29% support it. (47% strongly oppose the ban while only 9% strongly support it.)
Nationwide, support for car bans is strongest among urban voters. And yet even there, ban backing never quite tops 50%. In suburban areas, support drops down to 31% and rural areas falls all the way to 24%. That stands to reason because to whatever extent electric vehicles are viable, it’s only in the core density of major urban areas. Outside them, they’re unusable.
Polls also shows support for a car ban is tied to income. Even the cheapest electric vehicles are out of the price range of most Americans. That’s why opposition to car bans climbs for families making less than $40,000 and even those making up to $80,000. The proposed car ban means families being unable to replace their minivan. It means mothers who can’t drop off their kids at school and fathers who can’t drive to work.
A car ban is an extinction level event for American families. If it goes through, 53% of Americans won’t be able to buy a car. Imagine how much their lives will change.....
Not sure I'd want to drive an all EV vehicle though.
I hope that Biden's EV mandate, outlawing gas powered cars in a few years, is revoked. Most Americans can not afford to buy an EV. They are to expensive.
Car Bans Could Be a Deciding Factor in 2024
Urban Democrats love them, everyone else hates them.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/car-ban...actor-in-2024/
9 Democrat-run states, California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon, Rhode Island and Washington, have moved to ban cars by 2035.
The Biden administration has exploited EPA emissions standards to accomplish the same thing.
The green push to ban cars and force everyone to buy electric vehicles is a core part of the program and also highly unpopular with families struggling with high prices and inflation. Electric vehicles are far more expensive and much less reliable than cars and most can’t afford them.
59% of Americans oppose a ban on cars while only 40% support it. But, in worse news for banners, support for the ban has consistently fallen over the last years by 7% while opposition to it has increased. Republicans and Independents are obviously stalwartly opposed, but even among Democrats, opposition has grown until a third of Dems is opposed.
On a state by state level, opposition remains strong even in states whose Democrat governors unwisely chose to sign on to a 2035 car ban date. In Maryland, 60% opposed Gov. Wes Moore’s car ban while in New Jersey some 58% are opposed including 42% of Democrats. In Washington, 48% opposed Gov. Jay Inslee’s car ban while 38% backed it. Of those who opposed it, 31% were strongly opposed.
In Virginia, which was put on track to a car ban by following California’s illegal emissions mandates, 58% oppose a gas car ban while only 33% support it. Tellingly, while 42% strongly oppose a car ban only 12% strongly support one. Even among Democrats, support and opposition are nearly tied 44% to 43%. In Minnesota, 65% oppose a car ban while only 29% support it. (47% strongly oppose the ban while only 9% strongly support it.)
Nationwide, support for car bans is strongest among urban voters. And yet even there, ban backing never quite tops 50%. In suburban areas, support drops down to 31% and rural areas falls all the way to 24%. That stands to reason because to whatever extent electric vehicles are viable, it’s only in the core density of major urban areas. Outside them, they’re unusable.
Polls also shows support for a car ban is tied to income. Even the cheapest electric vehicles are out of the price range of most Americans. That’s why opposition to car bans climbs for families making less than $40,000 and even those making up to $80,000. The proposed car ban means families being unable to replace their minivan. It means mothers who can’t drop off their kids at school and fathers who can’t drive to work.
A car ban is an extinction level event for American families. If it goes through, 53% of Americans won’t be able to buy a car. Imagine how much their lives will change.....
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The real Tesla would have hated these vehicles
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Yeah all the millions and millions of V8s out there will be hoarded by the wealthy. Every V8 from the junkyard will be bought up by someone wealthy.Combustion vehicles will likely become toys for the wealthy, tends to be the way these things go
IE horses are now for the wealthy, mechanical watches are for the wealthy
IE horses are now for the wealthy, mechanical watches are for the wealthy
Horses aren't for the wealthy, they're relatively cheap. Do some research. Look up reddit users who own horses.
10-10-2023, 09:38 AM
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Next daily driver is likely going to be a Tesla. Only problem is that they keep messing with the pricing, and with the hype dying down, I'm going to wait for a bit longer. Other thing is that I want the FSD software, but don't want to pay the $12k or whatever monthly subscription is, so I'll likely buy a used one that already has it.
Ofc, I live in a state that gets cold winters and high electricity rates, so it might not be the high IQ move, but I like how they look, drive, and would be nice to have a full charge every morning.
Ofc, I live in a state that gets cold winters and high electricity rates, so it might not be the high IQ move, but I like how they look, drive, and would be nice to have a full charge every morning.
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10-10-2023, 09:49 AM
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Saw thread title, thought maybe someone bumped a thread from 2016....
wow.
wow.
10-10-2023, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By QuickShotSteve⏩
They're designed so that the battery will degrade to 29% after 8 years.I have had a lot of cars, and one of my current cars is a Tesla. 1 year old and battery already 5% degraded. They will replace on the 8 year battery warranty if it gets to 30% degraded.
For a commuter it’s amazing, love avoiding dirty gas stations and just coming home to charge.
I would never have it for only car. Thought of even driving across state isn’t enjoyable. Having to stop for 30min to an hour to charge. **** that, let alone a big trip across multiple states. Daily D, it’s the goat. Only car would suck balls.
Had one ‘recall’ that was an over the air update, didn’t have to bring in for service, believe it was for window pressure settings (so wouldn’t crush fingers in windows). Easiest recall I’ve ever had
For a commuter it’s amazing, love avoiding dirty gas stations and just coming home to charge.
I would never have it for only car. Thought of even driving across state isn’t enjoyable. Having to stop for 30min to an hour to charge. **** that, let alone a big trip across multiple states. Daily D, it’s the goat. Only car would suck balls.
Had one ‘recall’ that was an over the air update, didn’t have to bring in for service, believe it was for window pressure settings (so wouldn’t crush fingers in windows). Easiest recall I’ve ever had
10-10-2023, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Ah yeah sorry I hadn't realized some redditors own horses, scratch all thatYeah all the millions and millions of V8s out there will be hoarded by the wealthy. Every V8 from the junkyard will be bought up by someone wealthy.
Horses aren't for the wealthy, they're relatively cheap. Do some research. Look up reddit users who own horses.
Horses aren't for the wealthy, they're relatively cheap. Do some research. Look up reddit users who own horses.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Don't you have to get the residential electric in a home completely overhauled if you want to be able to charge there overnight so the system can handle the massively increased load?Yeah road tripping or towing with an EV is a lifestyle choice that requires sacrifice, as does owning an EV when you don't have access to overnight charging in your garage etc
Sometimes I wonder what the "savings" by switching to an EV really look like when you actually look at all of the variables like that. Or how people conveniently don't count their increased electric costs for fuel.
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Depends on your lifestyle. For boring citycels they work great from what I hear. For my lifestyle. Not a chance in hell. Love my 700 mil range I get with my truck for those back woods weeks of camping and hunting.
Enjoy the pavement in your super cool status symbol Tesla.
Enjoy the pavement in your super cool status symbol Tesla.
10-10-2023, 10:07 AM
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Teslas suck.
Of course, there's the stupid little TikTok noise at the end.
Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
This guy talks like he needs to suck a dick every 5 minutes to survive.Hell yeah, brother!
Of course, there's the stupid little TikTok noise at the end.
10-10-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
I think you generally need a 200-amp panel yeah, which will likely require upgrading for any home that wasn't built very recently and with the electrical system set up for this ahead of time. And then the charger hardware costs money.Don't you have to get the residential electric in a home completely overhauled if you want to be able to charge there overnight so the system can handle the massively increased load?
Sometimes I wonder what the "savings" by switching to an EV really look like when you actually look at all of the variables like that. Or how people conveniently don't count their increased electric costs for fuel.
Sometimes I wonder what the "savings" by switching to an EV really look like when you actually look at all of the variables like that. Or how people conveniently don't count their increased electric costs for fuel.
People do like to omit this stuff when talking about charging costs and savings vs gasoline, at least it's not as ludicruous as people rationalizing the Tesla solar roof
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
0 to 100 in under 4 seconds?thats nuts.good luck trying to get one.not to mention the price tag is probably huge.just looked it up.over a quarter mil.you got that kinda money huh? also op dont know chit about carsI mean, even if the OP got a Toyota Corolla he wouldn't tow with it because its a sedan. I'm in California where the weather is pretty mild year round so its really tempting for me to get an EV. I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but my next car may be one in a few years. Probably won't be a tesla, but something like a Lucid Air.
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
Therein lies the fundemental issue with EV's: They are impractical for half of the country geographically speaking outside of major cold weather cities with the capacity to handle it. Imagine trying to get every rentcel throughout the north equipped to handle the switch to an EV. Most of them wouldn't last a single winter even if you gave it to them for free.I like EVs. I drive a plug in hybrid daily that gets around 45 miles in EV mode.
Not sure I'd want to drive an all EV vehicle though.
I hope that Biden's EV mandate, outlawing gas powered cars in a few years, is revoked. Most Americans can not afford to buy an EV. They are to expensive.
Car Bans Could Be a Deciding Factor in 2024
Urban Democrats love them, everyone else hates them.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/car-ban...actor-in-2024/
9 Democrat-run states, California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon, Rhode Island and Washington, have moved to ban cars by 2035.
The Biden administration has exploited EPA emissions standards to accomplish the same thing.
The green push to ban cars and force everyone to buy electric vehicles is a core part of the program and also highly unpopular with families struggling with high prices and inflation. Electric vehicles are far more expensive and much less reliable than cars and most can’t afford them.
59% of Americans oppose a ban on cars while only 40% support it. But, in worse news for banners, support for the ban has consistently fallen over the last years by 7% while opposition to it has increased. Republicans and Independents are obviously stalwartly opposed, but even among Democrats, opposition has grown until a third of Dems is opposed.
On a state by state level, opposition remains strong even in states whose Democrat governors unwisely chose to sign on to a 2035 car ban date. In Maryland, 60% opposed Gov. Wes Moore’s car ban while in New Jersey some 58% are opposed including 42% of Democrats. In Washington, 48% opposed Gov. Jay Inslee’s car ban while 38% backed it. Of those who opposed it, 31% were strongly opposed.
In Virginia, which was put on track to a car ban by following California’s illegal emissions mandates, 58% oppose a gas car ban while only 33% support it. Tellingly, while 42% strongly oppose a car ban only 12% strongly support one. Even among Democrats, support and opposition are nearly tied 44% to 43%. In Minnesota, 65% oppose a car ban while only 29% support it. (47% strongly oppose the ban while only 9% strongly support it.)
Nationwide, support for car bans is strongest among urban voters. And yet even there, ban backing never quite tops 50%. In suburban areas, support drops down to 31% and rural areas falls all the way to 24%. That stands to reason because to whatever extent electric vehicles are viable, it’s only in the core density of major urban areas. Outside them, they’re unusable.
Polls also shows support for a car ban is tied to income. Even the cheapest electric vehicles are out of the price range of most Americans. That’s why opposition to car bans climbs for families making less than $40,000 and even those making up to $80,000. The proposed car ban means families being unable to replace their minivan. It means mothers who can’t drop off their kids at school and fathers who can’t drive to work.
A car ban is an extinction level event for American families. If it goes through, 53% of Americans won’t be able to buy a car. Imagine how much their lives will change.....
Not sure I'd want to drive an all EV vehicle though.
I hope that Biden's EV mandate, outlawing gas powered cars in a few years, is revoked. Most Americans can not afford to buy an EV. They are to expensive.
Car Bans Could Be a Deciding Factor in 2024
Urban Democrats love them, everyone else hates them.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/car-ban...actor-in-2024/
9 Democrat-run states, California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon, Rhode Island and Washington, have moved to ban cars by 2035.
The Biden administration has exploited EPA emissions standards to accomplish the same thing.
The green push to ban cars and force everyone to buy electric vehicles is a core part of the program and also highly unpopular with families struggling with high prices and inflation. Electric vehicles are far more expensive and much less reliable than cars and most can’t afford them.
59% of Americans oppose a ban on cars while only 40% support it. But, in worse news for banners, support for the ban has consistently fallen over the last years by 7% while opposition to it has increased. Republicans and Independents are obviously stalwartly opposed, but even among Democrats, opposition has grown until a third of Dems is opposed.
On a state by state level, opposition remains strong even in states whose Democrat governors unwisely chose to sign on to a 2035 car ban date. In Maryland, 60% opposed Gov. Wes Moore’s car ban while in New Jersey some 58% are opposed including 42% of Democrats. In Washington, 48% opposed Gov. Jay Inslee’s car ban while 38% backed it. Of those who opposed it, 31% were strongly opposed.
In Virginia, which was put on track to a car ban by following California’s illegal emissions mandates, 58% oppose a gas car ban while only 33% support it. Tellingly, while 42% strongly oppose a car ban only 12% strongly support one. Even among Democrats, support and opposition are nearly tied 44% to 43%. In Minnesota, 65% oppose a car ban while only 29% support it. (47% strongly oppose the ban while only 9% strongly support it.)
Nationwide, support for car bans is strongest among urban voters. And yet even there, ban backing never quite tops 50%. In suburban areas, support drops down to 31% and rural areas falls all the way to 24%. That stands to reason because to whatever extent electric vehicles are viable, it’s only in the core density of major urban areas. Outside them, they’re unusable.
Polls also shows support for a car ban is tied to income. Even the cheapest electric vehicles are out of the price range of most Americans. That’s why opposition to car bans climbs for families making less than $40,000 and even those making up to $80,000. The proposed car ban means families being unable to replace their minivan. It means mothers who can’t drop off their kids at school and fathers who can’t drive to work.
A car ban is an extinction level event for American families. If it goes through, 53% of Americans won’t be able to buy a car. Imagine how much their lives will change.....
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
we have 4 horses.used to have 5.got all of them free.the only ones worth money are breedersYeah all the millions and millions of V8s out there will be hoarded by the wealthy. Every V8 from the junkyard will be bought up by someone wealthy.
Horses aren't for the wealthy, they're relatively cheap. Do some research. Look up reddit users who own horses.
Horses aren't for the wealthy, they're relatively cheap. Do some research. Look up reddit users who own horses.
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Lol just wait til you have to change the battery. Teslas are trash... its literally as if you are driving an iphone 7.
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Teslas are fancy golf carts for rich people and wannabe snobs.
once they clout wear off they wbe just like every other car, nothing special.
Its the old saying that all that extra stuff strapped on to the car, gadgets and what not is just more stuff to break. teslas are almost mainly comprised of gadgets so the likelihood of them breaking is much higher.
There is a reason China produces more electric cars than anyone else. Its certainly not the environment because they dont care about that. Its because they are the cheapest to produce.
Why else would all these big car companies be jumping on the bandwagon? They are driven solely by profit. The mark ups on these things are huge compared to gas cars. Again, because its technically a big golf cart.
once they clout wear off they wbe just like every other car, nothing special.
Its the old saying that all that extra stuff strapped on to the car, gadgets and what not is just more stuff to break. teslas are almost mainly comprised of gadgets so the likelihood of them breaking is much higher.
There is a reason China produces more electric cars than anyone else. Its certainly not the environment because they dont care about that. Its because they are the cheapest to produce.
Why else would all these big car companies be jumping on the bandwagon? They are driven solely by profit. The mark ups on these things are huge compared to gas cars. Again, because its technically a big golf cart.
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10-10-2023, 10:48 AM
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