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post 1691719173 10-15-2023, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
no way. they get paid so much cause insurance and pharma have their hands in the pot too

BUT i dont really agree with op

they also get a bachelors in biology 99% of the time. then go to nursing school for 2. so real nurses are only 2 years short of a doc. and that is prob 2 years of pharma in medical school
nurses are in no way 2 years short of a doc although they may think they are basically doctors. no difference in a nurse that gets a bachelors and one that does 2 years at community college...both are RNs
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
nurses are in no way 2 years short of a doc although they may think they are basically doctors. no difference in a nurse that gets a bachelors and one that does 2 years at community college...both are RNs
i don't think so. you may be talking like a nurse tech

but a real nurse is 4 years of biology (like 99% of medical does this.. cause it makes sense. but you don't have to). then its 2 years of nursing school

whereas doc is 4 years of biology then 4 years of medical school

im unsure if nurses have residency but docs have 2 years of that. docs aren't making money until after residency (and prob after loans too)

and like i said.. the last 2 years of medical school for docs is prob learning about medicine distribution/ administration (pharma basically)
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i don't think so. you may be talking like a nurse tech

but a real nurse is 4 years of biology (like 99% of medical does this.. cause it makes sense. but you don't have to). then its 2 years of nursing school

whereas doc is 4 years of biology then 4 years of medical school

im unsure if nurses have residency but docs have 2 years of that. docs aren't making money until after residency (and prob after loans too)

and like i said.. the last 2 years of medical school for docs is prob learning about medicine distribution/ administration (pharma basically)
no. a "real" rn degree can be obtained from almost any community college in america. you do NOT need a biology degree to become an rn. i repeat...do NOT.

the difficulty and course load difference between rn and doctor are not even comparable. it's like saying a dental assistant is basically a dentist.
post 1691719793 10-15-2023, 01:03 PM
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post 1691719973 10-15-2023, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
no. a "real" rn degree can be obtained from almost any community college in america. you do NOT need a biology degree to become an rn. i repeat...do NOT.

the difficulty and course load difference between rn and doctor are not even comparable. it's like saying a dental assistant is basically a dentist.
bro i was in it. i stopped at microbiology. i originally wanted to be a doctor, then switched to nursing. then decided against it cause i didn't want to deal with disease 24/7

i dont know exactly what you're talking about... as there are lots of subsidiary/ smaller medical professions. like an xray tech

edit: so apparently its like i said. different distinctions:
An associate degree in nursing (ADN) is a two-year program and a bachelor of science in nursing (BSN) is a four-year program.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i don't think so. you may be talking like a nurse tech

but a real nurse is 4 years of biology (like 99% of medical does this.. cause it makes sense. but you don't have to). then its 2 years of nursing school

whereas doc is 4 years of biology then 4 years of medical school

im unsure if nurses have residency but docs have 2 years of that. docs aren't making money until after residency (and prob after loans too)

and like i said.. the last 2 years of medical school for docs is prob learning about medicine distribution/ administration (pharma basically)
So much misinformation in one post.

Associates in nursing is a 2 year program. A nurse with a BSN and one with ADN are both RNs granted they passed nursing boards. Nurses with BSN don't have 4 years in biology, sure they have some courses in biology, but it's called a Bachelor of science in nursing rather than a Bachelor of science in biology for a reason.

There's literally no residency in the US that is only two years. It's three years at the very least with some specialties being much longer (7 years for neurosurgery for example). The last 2 years of med school is spent in clinical rotations.
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When my wife was pregnant the nurses at the gyno office and in the delivery room did 99.9% of the work and the doctors hardly did sht.
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Originally Posted By ModernSlave⏩
So much misinformation in one post.

Associates in nursing is a 2 year program. A nurse with a BSN and one with ADN are both RNs granted they passed nursing boards. Nurses with BSN don't have 4 years in biology, sure they have some courses in biology, but it's called a Bachelor of science in nursing rather than a Bachelor of science in biology for a reason.

There's literally no residency in the US that is only two years. It's three years at the very least with some specialties being much longer (7 years for neurosurgery for example). The last 2 years of med school is spent in clinical rotations.
why would anybody do a bachelors in nursing if you can do an associates. what it is the advantage to the 4 year??

anyways, i def. think the 2 yearr thing is nowhere close to a doc. but a nurse getting a 4 year + 2 years of nursing is not that far off
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
why would anybody do a bachelors in nursing if you can do an associates. what it is the advantage to the 4 year??
some people want to go to college like a lot of young sloots...they then decide to make their major nursing. it also puts them a little closer to getting a masters (often done online while working) which could bump their pay or make them the boss of the nursing unit
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
some people want to go to college like a lot of young sloots...they then decide to make their major nursing. it also puts them a little closer to getting a masters (often done online while working) which could bump their pay or make them the boss of the nursing unit
seems kinda corrupt to be lumped in with the same people that only did 2 years

especially if they're paid the same

4 years may be better but if they both start out at 36/ hr that's just dumb
post 1691720643 10-15-2023, 01:20 PM
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Idk I was very grateful for good nurses when I was in the hospital for a couple weeks. They are really the people taking care of you.

They are the ones doing everything for you, doctors and surgeons come in for 30 seconds and tell you to get fluids then leave and charge you a few grand.
post 1691720693 10-15-2023, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
seems kinda corrupt to be lumped in with the same people that only did 2 years

especially if they're paid the same

4 years may be better but if they both start out at 36/ hr that's just dumb
the first two years of a bachelor degree is basically a bunch of humanities that have nothing to do with nursing so they essentially know the same stuff as it pertains to the job...thus equal pay.
post 1691720763 10-15-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Joeyw88⏩
As a previous registered nurse, none of that is the norm. At least at all the places that I have had clinical and also worked at. I've worked with extremely hard working and dedicated nurses, who often don't get to have every single break. The pay is good and definitely proportional to the amount of effort and stress nursing is.
U tell em, bro. Women are emotionally retarded, for sure. But the vast majority of nurses ive worked with take their job very seriously. People have no idea what they're responsible for behind the scenes. Especially at night, it' literally nurses that run the uniys. But Imo the pay is actually low for how much chit they have to do/put up with. Although it is definitely above average.

Anyway, what do you do now? APRN?
post 1691720993 10-15-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
the first two years of a bachelor degree is basically a bunch of humanities that have nothing to do with nursing so they essentially know the same stuff as it pertains to the job...thus equal pay.
that's true.. if that 2 year course is like intro to bio, bio 1, maybe bio 2, anatomy and physiology, microbio, human development... and whatever the fuk else

but im gonna doubt that's crammed into 2 years. cause a lot of that chit has labs which is like an additional class. the "professional" track and classes aree 4 credits instead of 3

if so that's wayyyyyyyy smarter

idk if these are new options but when i did it i was undergoing a bio degree with the intention of nursing school after. wasn't aware of quicker stuff

but there are like those nurses that are nowhere near a real nurse. they may take your blood pressure, temp, guide you to the room... but they couldn't see you
post 1691721263 10-15-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
that's true.. if that 2 year course is like intro to bio, bio 1, maybe bio 2, anatomy and physiology, microbio, human development... and whatever the fuk else

but im gonna doubt that's crammed into 2 years. cause a lot of that chit has labs which is like an additional class. the "professional" track and classes aree 4 credits instead of 3

if so that's wayyyyyyyy smarter

idk if these are new options but when i did it i was undergoing a bio degree with the intention of nursing school after. wasn't aware of quicker stuff

but there are like those nurses that are nowhere near a real nurse. they may take your blood pressure, temp, guide you to the room... but they couldn't see you
to get into nursing school at community colleges you have to take pre reqs then apply...bio 1 and 2, a&p 1 and 2, chem 1 and 2, etc. like i said they basically know the same stuff pertaining to nursing going in and coming out.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
to get into nursing school at community colleges you have to take pre reqs then apply...bio 1 and 2, a&p 1 and 2, chem 1 and 2, etc. like i said they basically know the same stuff pertaining to nursing going in and coming out.
way smarter then
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
way smarter than
how so? they take the same classes and learn the same nursing stuff.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i don't think so. you may be talking like a nurse tech

but a real nurse is 4 years of biology (like 99% of medical does this.. cause it makes sense. but you don't have to). then its 2 years of nursing school

whereas doc is 4 years of biology then 4 years of medical school

im unsure if nurses have residency but docs have 2 years of that. docs aren't making money until after residency (and prob after loans too)

and like i said.. the last 2 years of medical school for docs is prob learning about medicine distribution/ administration (pharma basically)
You dont need a Biology degree to be a nurse or a doctor. However, i did get a bachelor's degree in Biology before becoming an RN (Associate's) from a CC. Then went to a University and got a second Bacehlor's in nursing. Now Im in a Doctorate program.

Either way, the education of an RN, even one with a prior Bachelor's degree in Biology, is not comparable to a Medical Doctor. Even a nurse with a Doctorate degree is not directly comparable to an MD in the same field. Although they keep telling themselves it is.
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Originally Posted By akferd⏩
However, i did get a bachelor's degree in Biology before becoming an RN (Associate's) from a CC.
i know its not directly comparable.. was just saying it's a lot

your path was the same path i was on and most people around me

idk if new avenues opened up

but seems kinda crazy to me a 2 year nurse and one from 4 year bachelors + nursing school can administer medicine. if they both have the same privileges
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
how so? they take the same classes and learn the same nursing stuff.
im saying 2 years is smarter if its the same

cut out all the bullchit

get into thee field quicker with the same pay

then you have 2 years experience on a nurse from a 4 year

then you can do more school later if you want
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The amount of misinformation ITT is misc-tier


JFL @ saying RN's are underpaid post-Coof; a few days of overtime per month & they're clearing $60/hour in most hospitals & that's before PTO/Maternity

For the amount of vaginal-meltdowns I have to witness the juice isn't worth the squeeze
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The main difference in nursing programs, other than the prerequisites are an ADN/2 yr Associate Degree is all about bedside nursing and pt care. The 4yr/BSN includes classes like Public Health, Nursing Research, Management as in managing a nursing unit and not pt care. The prerequisites for ADN's are cut to like a 1/3 of what a BSN. Some classes are the same such as Psychology, Growth and Anatomy, Biology, A&P, Microbiology and a math course. Were as the BSN requires Chemistry and all the other fluff classes like 2 yrs of English, history, govt. etc. They both take the same test from the Board of Nursing.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
The amount of misinformation ITT is misc-tier


JFL @ saying RN's are underpaid post-Coof; a few days of overtime per month & they're clearing $60/hour in most hospitals & that's before PTO/Maternity

For the amount of vaginal-meltdowns I have to witness the juice isn't worth the squeeze
depends where you live and where you work.

average RN salary is probably more like 80-100k.

which is a lot in some places, and barely getting by in others.
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Nursing is a **** job lmao. There's a reason 50% of new nurses quit the profession within a year or two. It's awful for them. They get **** on by patients, **** on by doctors and admin, and they are basically powerless to do anything without a doctor's orders so they cant even really think for themselves at all srs. Nurses are the bottom of the totem pole of medicine which is very hierarchical.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
im saying 2 years is smarter if its the same

cut out all the bullchit

get into thee field quicker with the same pay

then you have 2 years experience on a nurse from a 4 year

then you can do more school later if you want
it's not much quicker though. the person going to community college spends about 1.5 years doing the pre reqs...plus 2 years nursing so about 3.5 years total. admission may also be harder because some of these nursing schools have 200+ people applying for 50 spots. the person getting the bachelors also has a bachelors degree that could help if they decide to do something else (something like 50% of people leave nursing within 5 years). they can also transition into getting a masters faster. pluses and minuses to both but at the end of the day they do and know the same crap...take the same test.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
your path was the same path i was on and most people around me

idk if new avenues opened up

but seems kinda crazy to me a 2 year nurse and one from 4 year bachelors + nursing school can administer medicine. if they both have the same privileges
There are accelerated BSN programs for people with a prior bachelor degrees in any field. After 1.5 years they can get a second bachelor's degree as an RN.

There's also this new path called a direct entry MSN where someone with a previous Bachelor's in any field can get a Master's RN in 20 months. Its not a specialized or clinical Master's degree, but still that's pretty wild.

But yea, the last year of a BSN is useless. And nurses were too dumb to demand a higher pay for higher education, so it isnt financially worth anything. I hated just about every day of being an RN. And ive done everything, from psych to the ICU.

Psych wasnt that bad though, tbh.
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Most nurses are retards with minimal knowledge. Babysitting an alcoholic on the med surg floor complaining about the CNA that's doing more actual work than them just lmao
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Originally Posted By Karupted⏩
Okay, so I was just going to lurk misc while eating my pizza, but I stumbled into this thread and saw this pic and I think it needs to be said that this is the dumbest, cock sucking, ph@ggot piece of sh!t picture / drawing I have ever seen in my life in recent times. To whoever generated this image...first off, nurses aren't super heroes, so you can suk a dik, second, why are the nurses the only ones wearing masks, would the comic book heroes be allowed into the hospital or were they exempt from catching covid? It doesn't make any fukking sense. Third, see that blue mother fukker? he's fully nude. they would not allow this fukking degenerate pervert into the hospital without clothes on. next, the hulk...he's in the hallway bowing...except, if he stands up he will break the fukking ceiling, clearly, whatever sh!t dik head artist drew this doesn't understand proportion and needs to go back to art school. How did he get in there? Did he walk in and then he turned into hulk? or was he hulk to begin with? fuk you. what a load of schit, lmfao
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Originally Posted By r0bo⏩
Most nurses are retards with minimal knowledge. Babysitting an alcoholic on the med surg floor complaining about the CNA that's doing more actual work than them just lmao
That could be any profession. So many people just do the bare minimum not to get fired and put as little effort towards their jobs than what they have to do. In jobs where they need to go to school or pass tests, they do enough to pass classes but don't really learn, and then know enough to get their certs but that's it. From there they learn how to not work and not get fired. Most people don't retain much of what they learn.
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