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It's over for the west, white areas are now becoming so desirable they are exploding in value.
10-16-2023, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
This.Just think of how efficient chit smearing would be in a place that small. It's probably smaller than the covid jail you were forced to stay in.

I predict 100% surface coverage of fecal matter in one sitting.
10-16-2023, 02:47 AM
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Thanks to unnecessary immigration. Can't believe the old 'fuk off we're full' from years back is actually true now lol.
10-16-2023, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted By KBurn⏩
Rookie, have u not heard of a piss bucket?this is a bang pad for businessmen. go to kings cross, get plastered with other execs, bring a ho to the bangpad. You probably have to piss out of the window and chit in the designated street, but its all good man.
imagine having to taking your last piss before sleeping, and having to travel down to the brothel to do so. No thanks jeff.
imagine having to taking your last piss before sleeping, and having to travel down to the brothel to do so. No thanks jeff.
10-16-2023, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
yes. 3x in prime areas, 2x in the suburbsThis is like $140k US Dollars. This would cost 3x that price in NYC.
10-16-2023, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted By forthenoodz⏩
i guess they don't call it jew york for nothing.yes. 3x in prime areas, 2x in the suburbs
10-16-2023, 04:45 AM
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That's not at all surprising to anyone who has been paying any sort of attention to housing prices in general over the past few years. $250k barely buys an older middle class home in small town middle of nowhere America these days, and people are surprised it doesn't get you anywhere in a major city?
10-16-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
Probably what is surprising is the fact that it exists at all.That's not at all surprising to anyone who has been paying any sort of attention to housing prices in general over the past few years. $250k barely buys an older middle class home in small town middle of nowhere America these days, and people are surprised it doesn't get you anywhere in a major city?
Given it has to be a company title and not a usual body corporate/unit title, I’m guessing it’s a legal grey area that this can even exist and be used for residential/habitable purposes
10-16-2023, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
they're douchebags right?
10-16-2023, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeakethTruth⏩
Is it immigration in Australia, or foreign $$$$ speculators? Or both?Thanks to unnecessary immigration. Can't believe the old 'fuk off we're full' from years back is actually true now lol.
10-16-2023, 10:48 PM
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no bathroom is crazy ayy lmao
Yo yo yo I beez keepin it real since 02 fo real nowuimsayin
*ballin crew*
Quest to reach 8k before DartBoard.
**Beat Dartboard on quest to 8k on 05/21/2012 as the underdog.**
10-16-2023, 11:03 PM
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In Australia they feel it's discrimination to bar people from buying property or treat them different based on nationality or citizenship. Canada too I guess. Here in the US it's hard or them to buy property and in some states they can't buy property such as in Florida. I guess a lot of red tape and fees make the US not a very desirable place for them to invest but some countries roll out the red carpet for them.
10-16-2023, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Foreign investors driving up prices is a mythIs it immigration in Australia, or foreign $$$$ speculators? Or both?
Foreigners are prevented from purchasing existing residential properties
They are encouraged to buy new “off the plan” developments, mainly apartments, because they provide the critical mass in pre sales for developers to bring these new dwellings to market
They are typically limited to 50% of the dwellings in any new development so they are actually adding to supply, because without the foreign money these new builds would not go ahead
Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
In Australia your residency status absolutely does impact what properties you are allowed to buyIn Australia they feel it's discrimination to bar people from buying property or treat them different based on nationality or citizenship. Canada too I guess. Here in the US it's hard or them to buy property and in some states they can't buy property such as in Florida. I guess a lot of red tape and fees make the US not a very desirable place for them to invest but some countries roll out the red carpet for them.
Only permanent residents can buy existing property
Temporary residents are in some cases allowed to buy existing properties when they are on a visa type that is pending permanent residency, but if they don’t get it, they have to sell the property within a certain amount of time
They have also ramped up compliance monitoring and now you have to provide residency evidence as part of conveyancing
10-16-2023, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
How does any of that mean that "Foreign investors driving up prices is a myth"? The fact that foreigners can buy any residential properties, new or old, absolutely affects housing prices.Foreign investors driving up prices is a myth
Foreigners are prevented from purchasing existing residential properties
They are encouraged to buy new “off the plan” developments, mainly apartments, because they provide the critical mass in pre sales for developers to bring these new dwellings to market
They are typically limited to 50% of the dwellings in any new development so they are actually adding to supply, because without the foreign money these new builds would not go ahead
In Australia your residency status absolutely does impact what properties you are allowed to buy
Only permanent residents can buy existing property
Temporary residents are in some cases allowed to buy existing properties when they are on a visa type that is pending permanent residency, but if they don’t get it, they have to sell the property within a certain amount of time
Foreigners are prevented from purchasing existing residential properties
They are encouraged to buy new “off the plan” developments, mainly apartments, because they provide the critical mass in pre sales for developers to bring these new dwellings to market
They are typically limited to 50% of the dwellings in any new development so they are actually adding to supply, because without the foreign money these new builds would not go ahead
In Australia your residency status absolutely does impact what properties you are allowed to buy
Only permanent residents can buy existing property
Temporary residents are in some cases allowed to buy existing properties when they are on a visa type that is pending permanent residency, but if they don’t get it, they have to sell the property within a certain amount of time
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
Yes, foreigners are helpingreduceprices by driving up new supply of housingHow does any of that mean that "Foreign investors driving up prices is a myth"? The fact that foreigners can buy any residential properties, new or old, absolutely affects housing prices.
Hence “driving prices up” is a myth
It’s actually one of the very few housing policies the government managed to get right
10-16-2023, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
I think I get what you're saying and I'd be interested in seeing some stats on that, but just the back of the napkin math doesn't seem to support that argument.Yes, foreigners are helpingreduceprices by driving up new supply of housing
Hence “driving prices up” is a myth
It’s actually one of the very few housing policies the government managed to get right
Hence “driving prices up” is a myth
It’s actually one of the very few housing policies the government managed to get right
Australia's major cities haven't built enough housing for all the immigrants, foreign students, etc. in the past couple of decades, much less enough for native Australians. So while bringing more people into these areas obviously spurs development, if it's not bringing enough new units to market to make up for all of the added people then thats still driving more housing scarcity to locals and inflating prices beyond what they'd be without all the new foreigners.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Maybe it was just Canada, not sure.In Australia your residency status absolutely does impact what properties you are allowed to buy
Only permanent residents can buy existing property
Temporary residents are in some cases allowed to buy existing properties when they are on a visa type that is pending permanent residency, but if they don’t get it, they have to sell the property within a certain amount of time
They have also ramped up compliance monitoring and now you have to provide residency evidence as part of conveyancing
Only permanent residents can buy existing property
Temporary residents are in some cases allowed to buy existing properties when they are on a visa type that is pending permanent residency, but if they don’t get it, they have to sell the property within a certain amount of time
They have also ramped up compliance monitoring and now you have to provide residency evidence as part of conveyancing
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
Adding to supply (of anything) reduces the priceI think I get what you're saying and I'd be interested in seeing some stats on that, but just the back of the napkin math doesn't seem to support that argument.
Australia's major cities haven't built enough housing for all the immigrants, foreign students, etc. in the past couple of decades, much less enough for native Australians. So while bringing more people into these areas obviously spurs development, if it's not bringing enough new units to market to make up for all of the added people then thats still driving more housing scarcity to locals and inflating prices beyond what they'd be without all the new foreigners.
Australia's major cities haven't built enough housing for all the immigrants, foreign students, etc. in the past couple of decades, much less enough for native Australians. So while bringing more people into these areas obviously spurs development, if it's not bringing enough new units to market to make up for all of the added people then thats still driving more housing scarcity to locals and inflating prices beyond what they'd be without all the new foreigners.
Developers need money to fund construction and they can’t always get the funding from the banks, or if they can the banks want to see presales
Suppose they are building an apartment block with 100 homes. They need $x dollars in presales to get the loan to fund construction. Almost impossible to raise that locally.
The developer gets FIRB approval to sell 50% of the units to foreigners. Foreigners buy the 50 off the plan. They go ahead and build the 100 units. The remaining 50 are sold to local buyers, adding to supply and driving down price.
Also, of the 50 that were sold to foreigners, a significant chunk were investment properties, so that drives down rental prices.
New supply of housing is what drives down prices.
If prices went up, it’s due to other factors. But without foreign investment, the prices would be even higher.
10-17-2023, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
You're leaving out the most important aspect there:Price is only reduced by adding supply if you aren't also adding even more demand at the same time.In this case (and in basically every western country accepting mass immigration) there are more people who need housing being imported than there are new housing units being built.Adding to supply (of anything) reduces the price
Developers need money to fund construction and they can’t always get the funding from the banks, or if they can the banks want to see presales
Suppose they are building an apartment block with 100 homes. They need $x dollars in presales to get the loan to fund construction. Almost impossible to raise that locally.
The developer gets FIRB approval to sell 50% of the units to foreigners. Foreigners buy the 50 off the plan. They go ahead and build the 100 units. The remaining 50 are sold to local buyers, adding to supply and driving down price.
Also, of the 50 that were sold to foreigners, a significant chunk were investment properties, so that drives down rental prices.
New supply of housing is what drives down prices.
If prices went up, it’s due to other factors. But without foreign investment, the prices would be even higher.
Developers need money to fund construction and they can’t always get the funding from the banks, or if they can the banks want to see presales
Suppose they are building an apartment block with 100 homes. They need $x dollars in presales to get the loan to fund construction. Almost impossible to raise that locally.
The developer gets FIRB approval to sell 50% of the units to foreigners. Foreigners buy the 50 off the plan. They go ahead and build the 100 units. The remaining 50 are sold to local buyers, adding to supply and driving down price.
Also, of the 50 that were sold to foreigners, a significant chunk were investment properties, so that drives down rental prices.
New supply of housing is what drives down prices.
If prices went up, it’s due to other factors. But without foreign investment, the prices would be even higher.
The argument that "more people = cheaper houses" just doesn't seem to work anywhere because of the most fundamental law of supply and demand.
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
You’re not reading what I wroteYou're leaving out the most important aspect there:Price is only reduced by adding supply if you aren't also adding even more demand at the same time.In this case (and in basically every western country accepting mass immigration) there are more people who need housing being imported than there are new housing units being built.
The argument that "more people = cheaper houses" just doesn't seem to work anywhere because of the most fundamental law of supply and demand.
The argument that "more people = cheaper houses" just doesn't seem to work anywhere because of the most fundamental law of supply and demand.
Of the new houses they build, they’re only allowed to sell a set proportion (usually 50%) to foreigners
So they are adding MORE houses than families
Its even more beneficial if foreign investors buy them and rent them, because then you get added supply with no added rental demand
Note also my response was in relation to foreign investment in the housing market, NOT net migration
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