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Originally Posted By MasterMorality⏩
Yeah my mom was a phd history professor with a focus on Russia. It’s all I heard about growing up. Glad you have some weird ********** conspiracy theory sites. I’ve also visited places like dachau in person.You have no idea what you are talking about. I mean that in all seriousness, you are completely ignorant of the history and are the one speaking fallacies.
Did you just make up stuff about the history of the events? Then did you just make up stuff about things I wasn't even writing about? Have you ever studied the matter and I don't mean casually scanning an internet blog or a half of a youtube video? Did you even read the article I posted in the OP? Or anything I have posted in the last two weeks?
Did you just make up stuff about the history of the events? Then did you just make up stuff about things I wasn't even writing about? Have you ever studied the matter and I don't mean casually scanning an internet blog or a half of a youtube video? Did you even read the article I posted in the OP? Or anything I have posted in the last two weeks?
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
That chit's been going on since the 1960's. Just about every snackbar terrorist attack was in collaboration with marxist antifas of the day (Black September, R.A.F., Japanese Red Army, Carlos the Jackel).The group who called everyone that even slightly disagreed with them "Nazis" and screeched "Punch a Nazi!" every day for years on end now openly advocate genocide of Jewish people, saying things like "River to the sea."
I keep thinking "This is peak insanity, these Marxist retards can't possibly getmore hypocritical," but they always prove me wrong and outdo themselves.
And no I'm not "picking a side" in this conflict, I feel bad for the innocents on either of those said sides, whether they're Muslim or Jewish.
I keep thinking "This is peak insanity, these Marxist retards can't possibly getmore hypocritical," but they always prove me wrong and outdo themselves.
And no I'm not "picking a side" in this conflict, I feel bad for the innocents on either of those said sides, whether they're Muslim or Jewish.
Inevitably they all end up fighting amongst themselves in the end.

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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Gotta love it, all you people are so unhinged that you're accusing everyone of being Jewish.....I can't say 100% cause I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you did in a thread like a month ago...
11-01-2023, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted By mastermorality⏩
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"the prominence of the organized left has reached an inflection point.
Seemingly out of nowhere, leftists taking a principled position against israel’s genocidal brutality and the us-enabled jewish supremacist doctrine of zionism have found themselves targeted by the same anti-intellectual current their handlers have long deployed against us: Words are violence, we feel unsafe, no platform!
Perhaps the biggest story on the left right now is the shunning of the democratic socialists of america (dsa). Maurice isserman, a jew who helped found the dsa, wrote a public account of his resignation following the group’s initial refusal to condemn the palestinian freedom fighters.
According to isserman’s account, “tankies” — marxist-leninists who embrace the soviet union as a model — infiltrated the group and used their superior organizational capabilities to take the largely incoherent dsa over in recent years. Isserman’s original purpose for the dsa was to capture young radicals and turn them into a loyal democrat voters, but “tankies” thwarted this mission by establishing full support for the palestinian cause as a litmus test, which ended up dislodging jews and liberal gatekeepers from positions of authority.
The dsa’s position on palestine has caused most of its high-profile and politically connected supporters to ditch them. Card carrying members such as sarah silverman, joshua leifer, alexandra ocasio-cortez, michigan representative shri thanedar, nithya raman and rep. Jamaal bowman — all individuals who enthusiastically cheered when leftists were killing white people and looting across america during the 2020 riots — have either resigned from the dsa or condemned the group’s pro-palestine national statement and protests.
At cuny, a network of public universities known for churning out frothing at the mouth communists, a jewish republican councilwoman named inna vernikov successfully pressured brooklyn college president michelle anderson into flagrantly violating the first amendment rights of pro-palestine students by banning their rally from the campus. When the protest went on as planned off the campus, vernikov appeared at the demonstration with an illegal gun in her hand. Left-wing pro-palestine faculty were left flabbergasted, not just by the political power a republican all of a sudden can wield over them, but also by the fact that a woman arrested for publicly flashing her firearm in new york city can somehow retain her city council seat.
On palestine, the left feels like it has spontaneously lost all of its superpowers. The mass media is usually eager to provide wall to wall coverage of a white on non-white hate crime murder, but not when a zionist fanatic stabs a 6-year-old muslim boy to death in chicago for being palestinian. In cleveland, cair is demanding the fbi investigate a driver who ran over an arab man while screaming “kill all palestinians,” but it’s unlikely merrick garland and the rest of the jews at the department of justice will be answering their calls. Multiple attempts to kill palestinian protesters by running them over are being treated with kids gloves by authorities.
Almost all of the interracial political violence and terrorism happening right now is jews or pro-israel lackeys targeting pro-palestinian protesters and muslims, yet we are saturated with out-of-context clips of jewish students “hiding” in libraries and calls to arrest people just for making them “feel unsafe.”
at “woke” msnbc, every muslim anchor has been suspended since the start of the israel-palestine conflict, a textbook violation of the civil rights act that does not appear to be leading to any lawsuits or doj investigations. The daily beast has taken a break from doxing right-wingers to set its israeli sniper scope on former bernie sanders press secretary brianha joy gray, who has been defending the palestinian cause as co-host of the hill’s rising. Judging from the history of rising on israel-related issues, she should not expect her contract to be renewed.
The list of pro-palestine leftists being blacklisted, fired, doxed, and repudiated by otherwise friendly institutions and enabling powerbrokers is too long to even cite. Conservative ass-munchers, from andrew mccarthy to josh hawley, are actively siccing the fbi they spent years pretending to criticize on americans critical of israel. Failing presidential candidate, governor ron desantis, has implemented by decree a brazenly unconstitutional ban on anti-zionist activist groups operating on florida’s college campuses.
The conservative theory that america has been taken hostage by the moral and protest power of academic left has been thoroughly debunked. Anti-israel students using their tried and true protest playbook — sit-ins, pushing cops around, intimidation of opponents — are now facing mass arrests all over the country, revealing that america’s leaders were only pretending to be afraid of them.
The jewish power structure is currently reorienting itself away from arresting trump supporters and towards suppressing the anti-zionist left. A recent resolution labeling anti-zionist sentiments expressed on campus as ” anti-semitism” and synonymous with terrorism passed with overwhelming support in congress. The repression we have seen so far is only the beginning.
Some on the right see what is unfolding as an opportunity. They feel the jewish boot lifted from their neck and being used to now attack certain low level left-wing opponents, and want to get a little cathartic kick in.
But not so fast. Just because nikki haley is promising to defund universities that allow anti-zionist dissent if president doesn’t mean she has any interest in doing it for their illegal anti-white practices, like affirmative action. Separating jewish students in critical race theory exercises is getting professors fired, but the fbi will still be knocking on your door if you dare voice concern about your white children being treated this way. As word gets out that being pro-palestinian will get you blacklisted by the jews who hand pick tomorrow’s elites, casual leftists (the majority of them) are likely to break from the ideologues and drop the issue or take a heavily watered down stance.
We can already see this unfolding with some of the most odious groups on the left, like antifa. In a widely circulated statement released by the atlanta chapter of the anti-white gang, they attacked hamas, pro-palestinian white nationalists, pro-israel christian zionists, and “war crimes by israel,” but stopped notably short of condemning the ideology of zionism, the israeli state’s inherently genocidal ethos.
Do they expect us to believe former dsa member jamaal bowman votes for more iron dome funding or meets with israeli officials because he is beholden to the christian zionist lobby?
Antifa accounts across twitter have largely remained silent on the big city rallies by jews on their turf openly celebrating the racial extermination of palestinians. Their sole agenda on the subject is to act as interloping jewish political police nobody called, looking to hijack events about palestinian dignity and make them about gay sex, or attacking pro-whites who seek to support the palestinian cause. It is worth noting that muslim leaders and states currently battling zionism in the middle east are friendly towards and actively seek cooperation with individuals and groups gay and jewish anarchists call “neo-nazi.” by filling this role, antifa groups will continue to enjoy the systematic protection those on the honest left are currently losing.
The sole outcome of this crackdown on the left will be to further erode the civil liberties of those who dare criticize what jews are doing to both whites in the occupied west and palestinians in the occupied territories. In america, power is neither left nor right. Jews decide who can and cannot speak.
The zionist occupied government has shown that it can both walk on whites and chew israeli bubblegum."
"the prominence of the organized left has reached an inflection point.
Seemingly out of nowhere, leftists taking a principled position against israel’s genocidal brutality and the us-enabled jewish supremacist doctrine of zionism have found themselves targeted by the same anti-intellectual current their handlers have long deployed against us: Words are violence, we feel unsafe, no platform!
Perhaps the biggest story on the left right now is the shunning of the democratic socialists of america (dsa). Maurice isserman, a jew who helped found the dsa, wrote a public account of his resignation following the group’s initial refusal to condemn the palestinian freedom fighters.
According to isserman’s account, “tankies” — marxist-leninists who embrace the soviet union as a model — infiltrated the group and used their superior organizational capabilities to take the largely incoherent dsa over in recent years. Isserman’s original purpose for the dsa was to capture young radicals and turn them into a loyal democrat voters, but “tankies” thwarted this mission by establishing full support for the palestinian cause as a litmus test, which ended up dislodging jews and liberal gatekeepers from positions of authority.
The dsa’s position on palestine has caused most of its high-profile and politically connected supporters to ditch them. Card carrying members such as sarah silverman, joshua leifer, alexandra ocasio-cortez, michigan representative shri thanedar, nithya raman and rep. Jamaal bowman — all individuals who enthusiastically cheered when leftists were killing white people and looting across america during the 2020 riots — have either resigned from the dsa or condemned the group’s pro-palestine national statement and protests.
At cuny, a network of public universities known for churning out frothing at the mouth communists, a jewish republican councilwoman named inna vernikov successfully pressured brooklyn college president michelle anderson into flagrantly violating the first amendment rights of pro-palestine students by banning their rally from the campus. When the protest went on as planned off the campus, vernikov appeared at the demonstration with an illegal gun in her hand. Left-wing pro-palestine faculty were left flabbergasted, not just by the political power a republican all of a sudden can wield over them, but also by the fact that a woman arrested for publicly flashing her firearm in new york city can somehow retain her city council seat.
On palestine, the left feels like it has spontaneously lost all of its superpowers. The mass media is usually eager to provide wall to wall coverage of a white on non-white hate crime murder, but not when a zionist fanatic stabs a 6-year-old muslim boy to death in chicago for being palestinian. In cleveland, cair is demanding the fbi investigate a driver who ran over an arab man while screaming “kill all palestinians,” but it’s unlikely merrick garland and the rest of the jews at the department of justice will be answering their calls. Multiple attempts to kill palestinian protesters by running them over are being treated with kids gloves by authorities.
Almost all of the interracial political violence and terrorism happening right now is jews or pro-israel lackeys targeting pro-palestinian protesters and muslims, yet we are saturated with out-of-context clips of jewish students “hiding” in libraries and calls to arrest people just for making them “feel unsafe.”
at “woke” msnbc, every muslim anchor has been suspended since the start of the israel-palestine conflict, a textbook violation of the civil rights act that does not appear to be leading to any lawsuits or doj investigations. The daily beast has taken a break from doxing right-wingers to set its israeli sniper scope on former bernie sanders press secretary brianha joy gray, who has been defending the palestinian cause as co-host of the hill’s rising. Judging from the history of rising on israel-related issues, she should not expect her contract to be renewed.
The list of pro-palestine leftists being blacklisted, fired, doxed, and repudiated by otherwise friendly institutions and enabling powerbrokers is too long to even cite. Conservative ass-munchers, from andrew mccarthy to josh hawley, are actively siccing the fbi they spent years pretending to criticize on americans critical of israel. Failing presidential candidate, governor ron desantis, has implemented by decree a brazenly unconstitutional ban on anti-zionist activist groups operating on florida’s college campuses.
The conservative theory that america has been taken hostage by the moral and protest power of academic left has been thoroughly debunked. Anti-israel students using their tried and true protest playbook — sit-ins, pushing cops around, intimidation of opponents — are now facing mass arrests all over the country, revealing that america’s leaders were only pretending to be afraid of them.
The jewish power structure is currently reorienting itself away from arresting trump supporters and towards suppressing the anti-zionist left. A recent resolution labeling anti-zionist sentiments expressed on campus as ” anti-semitism” and synonymous with terrorism passed with overwhelming support in congress. The repression we have seen so far is only the beginning.
Some on the right see what is unfolding as an opportunity. They feel the jewish boot lifted from their neck and being used to now attack certain low level left-wing opponents, and want to get a little cathartic kick in.
But not so fast. Just because nikki haley is promising to defund universities that allow anti-zionist dissent if president doesn’t mean she has any interest in doing it for their illegal anti-white practices, like affirmative action. Separating jewish students in critical race theory exercises is getting professors fired, but the fbi will still be knocking on your door if you dare voice concern about your white children being treated this way. As word gets out that being pro-palestinian will get you blacklisted by the jews who hand pick tomorrow’s elites, casual leftists (the majority of them) are likely to break from the ideologues and drop the issue or take a heavily watered down stance.
We can already see this unfolding with some of the most odious groups on the left, like antifa. In a widely circulated statement released by the atlanta chapter of the anti-white gang, they attacked hamas, pro-palestinian white nationalists, pro-israel christian zionists, and “war crimes by israel,” but stopped notably short of condemning the ideology of zionism, the israeli state’s inherently genocidal ethos.
Do they expect us to believe former dsa member jamaal bowman votes for more iron dome funding or meets with israeli officials because he is beholden to the christian zionist lobby?
Antifa accounts across twitter have largely remained silent on the big city rallies by jews on their turf openly celebrating the racial extermination of palestinians. Their sole agenda on the subject is to act as interloping jewish political police nobody called, looking to hijack events about palestinian dignity and make them about gay sex, or attacking pro-whites who seek to support the palestinian cause. It is worth noting that muslim leaders and states currently battling zionism in the middle east are friendly towards and actively seek cooperation with individuals and groups gay and jewish anarchists call “neo-nazi.” by filling this role, antifa groups will continue to enjoy the systematic protection those on the honest left are currently losing.
The sole outcome of this crackdown on the left will be to further erode the civil liberties of those who dare criticize what jews are doing to both whites in the occupied west and palestinians in the occupied territories. In america, power is neither left nor right. Jews decide who can and cannot speak.
The zionist occupied government has shown that it can both walk on whites and chew israeli bubblegum."
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It’s annoying. I believe in the right to protest peacefully but only the pro Israeli crowds do it that way whereas the pro Palestine crowds are hateful and hostile. If they can crack down on these animals then I’m
Fine. Personally I wouldn’t want my kid at a college where violence is incited by misinformed uneducated morons who Iran wishes dead as much as they do us peace loving Americans. They are laughing at Americans who do this.
Get ‘em off our streets and out of the schools. They are dangerous.
Fine. Personally I wouldn’t want my kid at a college where violence is incited by misinformed uneducated morons who Iran wishes dead as much as they do us peace loving Americans. They are laughing at Americans who do this.
Get ‘em off our streets and out of the schools. They are dangerous.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
U really think so? Many of the Prophets I believe in were...and I think they were the best men to walk the earth.Gotta love it, all you people are so unhinged that you're accusing everyone of being Jewish.....
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Not that I disagree,but you could make the argument for any type of politician.I think the only thing missing here is DNC politicians are not in fact leftists. They are pure capitalists who use useful idiots to maintain power while gas lighting them on leftist policy’s and even implementing many which are superficial or of little consequence, while maintaining the coroporation and donor status quo.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Except they didn't even exist. So you pretty much believe that mythological characters were the best men to walk the earth.U really think so? Many of the Prophets I believe in were...and I think they were the best men to walk the earth.
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Correct but the leftist politicians play on the “socialist” image and the illusion of being in it to help the poor, downtrodden, and underrepresented. No one else does that.Not that I disagree,but you could make the argument for any type of politician.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I mean we have historical evidence of the existence of many of them. Recovered clay tablets from the secretary of Jeremiah. David, Jesus, Mohammad, Moses all have strong historical evidence outside of the abrahamic religions. What are you referencing to that makes the case these people were made up?Except they didn't even exist. So you pretty much believe that mythological characters were the best men to walk the earth.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
That's another discussion...and there are Jews in the world today that I have no issues with if that helps you feel better.Except they didn't even exist. So you pretty much believe that mythological characters were the best men to walk the earth.
Also, I think it's 129iq I was talking about so I retract my statement. It wasn't you I believe.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Wow, you actually think that Moses existed despite no historical texts????I mean we have historical evidence of the existence of many of them. Recovered clay tablets from the secretary of Jeremiah. David, Jesus, Mohammad, Moses all have strong historical evidence outside of the abrahamic religions. What are you referencing to that makes the case these people were made up?
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Muslims have no issues with the Jews who know their place as second class citizens.....That's another discussion...and there are Jews in the world today that I have no issues with if that helps you feel better.
Also, I think it's 129iq I was talking about so I retract my statement. It wasn't you I believe.
Also, I think it's 129iq I was talking about so I retract my statement. It wasn't you I believe.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
They ran to Muslim lands historically speaking...people tend to look at history from history in their own lifetime and that is such a weak talking point, in all respect.Muslims have no issues with the Jews who know their place as second class citizens.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
In the time of Pharaoh Amenemhat III comes evidence of a Semitic vizier named ʿAnḫu who seems to be the one known as 'Overseer of the Fields’ at a time when Egypt was preparing to save itself from drought. Many granaries bore the name 'Granary of ʿAnḫu’. In the Genesis account, after being granted immense power by Pharaoh to save Egypt from this predicted coning famine, Joseph's famine policy causes the landowners/Nomes and everyone save the priests to selltheir cattle, wealth, land to Pharaoh in return for live-saving food, which Joseph aka ‘Zaphenath-Paneah’ stores up 'beyond counting’ ahead of the famine while Egypt enjoys 7 years of Abundance.Wow, you actually think that Moses existed despite no historical texts????
It's another historical detail singular to the time of Amenemhat III, when the power of Egypt's Nomes shrinks and Pharaoh becomes unprecedentedly powerful, though like Genesis states, the priests are exempt from this famine policy taxation.
The Bahr Yusuf/Joseph's Canal is dug to siphon off floodwaters from the seasonal overflow of the Nile and save precious crops. A massive lake is dug for the waters to empty into, Lake Moeris. This is the time of Pharaoh Amenemhat III, still, and that canal has borne that name for thousands of years, well before any modern attempt to link events of that time with Joseph.
In the Eastern Nile Delta — called the Land of Goshen in the Bible — a group of Sryo-palestinian Semitic pastoralists settles who clearly has the blessing of the crown, “a sort of free status", according to archaeologist Manfred Bietak (who excavated the site but being under the popular notion of a Ramesside Exodus, didn't initially make the connection between his finds and the Israelites. Egyptologist David Rohl made these connections). The group numbers between 60–100 initially, according to remains found, fitting well with the 70 or so described in the Bible that came with Jacob and his sons.
A Syrian styled 'Mittelsaal’ house is built, not Canaanite. The occupant dies (aged Jacob, Rohl suggests), and an Egyptian palace is built for a Semitic high official — likely ʿAnḫu/Joseph.
All but his are Syro-Palestinian in style.
The Semitic Syrian-originated population increased in wealth and number till Avaris becomes one if the largest cities in the ancient world. Again, from Pharaoh Amenemhat III's time for about 2 centuries comes this evidence, from Egyptian records like the Brooklyn Papyrus that lists several recognizably Biblical Israelite names and the Ipuwer Papyrus that comes from a little later in this period and recounts a series of apocalyptic disasters with the slaves despoiling their masters before vanishing, as do these Semites in Egypt after 2 centuries
David Rohl suggests that Joseph or maybe one of his 2 sons invented this simplified writing system so his Semitic people could more easily communicate in written form. Every other writing system of the day comprised of hundreds of symbols that were syllabic, represented words, very cumbersome and costly to learn. Only the elites could generally read and write.
The Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions were discovered over a century ago at an ancient Turquoise Mine called Du-Mofka in Egyptian records, 'Mountain of Turquoise’. It is generally agreed that this would be the Dophkah mentioned as a stopping point of Moses and the Israelites en route to Mt Sinai, and is presently called Serâbit El-Khâdim in Arabic.
Would rather not get into a discussion of allegory or language used to convey intent in the Bible. But do we really need to keep trying to pretend the events that took place were completely fictitious? These people really existed.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Sorry guy, there is ZERO historical proof that Moses existed. What, you really believe that he did, that he lived for 120 years? That he brought a plague upon Egypt that killed everyone's first born? That he split the sea in two? That the water turned into blood???In the time of Pharaoh Amenemhat III comes evidence of a Semitic vizier named ʿAnḫu who seems to be the one known as 'Overseer of the Fields’ at a time when Egypt was preparing to save itself from drought. Many granaries bore the name 'Granary of ʿAnḫu’. In the Genesis account, after being granted immense power by Pharaoh to save Egypt from this predicted coning famine, Joseph's famine policy causes the landowners/Nomes and everyone save the priests to selltheir cattle, wealth, land to Pharaoh in return for live-saving food, which Joseph aka ‘Zaphenath-Paneah’ stores up 'beyond counting’ ahead of the famine while Egypt enjoys 7 years of Abundance.
It's another historical detail singular to the time of Amenemhat III, when the power of Egypt's Nomes shrinks and Pharaoh becomes unprecedentedly powerful, though like Genesis states, the priests are exempt from this famine policy taxation.
The Bahr Yusuf/Joseph's Canal is dug to siphon off floodwaters from the seasonal overflow of the Nile and save precious crops. A massive lake is dug for the waters to empty into, Lake Moeris. This is the time of Pharaoh Amenemhat III, still, and that canal has borne that name for thousands of years, well before any modern attempt to link events of that time with Joseph.
In the Eastern Nile Delta — called the Land of Goshen in the Bible — a group of Sryo-palestinian Semitic pastoralists settles who clearly has the blessing of the crown, “a sort of free status", according to archaeologist Manfred Bietak (who excavated the site but being under the popular notion of a Ramesside Exodus, didn't initially make the connection between his finds and the Israelites. Egyptologist David Rohl made these connections). The group numbers between 60–100 initially, according to remains found, fitting well with the 70 or so described in the Bible that came with Jacob and his sons.
A Syrian styled 'Mittelsaal’ house is built, not Canaanite. The occupant dies (aged Jacob, Rohl suggests), and an Egyptian palace is built for a Semitic high official — likely ʿAnḫu/Joseph.
All but his are Syro-Palestinian in style.
The Semitic Syrian-originated population increased in wealth and number till Avaris becomes one if the largest cities in the ancient world. Again, from Pharaoh Amenemhat III's time for about 2 centuries comes this evidence, from Egyptian records like the Brooklyn Papyrus that lists several recognizably Biblical Israelite names and the Ipuwer Papyrus that comes from a little later in this period and recounts a series of apocalyptic disasters with the slaves despoiling their masters before vanishing, as do these Semites in Egypt after 2 centuries
David Rohl suggests that Joseph or maybe one of his 2 sons invented this simplified writing system so his Semitic people could more easily communicate in written form. Every other writing system of the day comprised of hundreds of symbols that were syllabic, represented words, very cumbersome and costly to learn. Only the elites could generally read and write.
The Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions were discovered over a century ago at an ancient Turquoise Mine called Du-Mofka in Egyptian records, 'Mountain of Turquoise’. It is generally agreed that this would be the Dophkah mentioned as a stopping point of Moses and the Israelites en route to Mt Sinai, and is presently called Serâbit El-Khâdim in Arabic.
Would rather not get into a discussion of allegory or language used to convey intent in the Bible. But do we really need to keep trying to pretend the events that took place were completely fictitious? These people really existed.
It's another historical detail singular to the time of Amenemhat III, when the power of Egypt's Nomes shrinks and Pharaoh becomes unprecedentedly powerful, though like Genesis states, the priests are exempt from this famine policy taxation.
The Bahr Yusuf/Joseph's Canal is dug to siphon off floodwaters from the seasonal overflow of the Nile and save precious crops. A massive lake is dug for the waters to empty into, Lake Moeris. This is the time of Pharaoh Amenemhat III, still, and that canal has borne that name for thousands of years, well before any modern attempt to link events of that time with Joseph.
In the Eastern Nile Delta — called the Land of Goshen in the Bible — a group of Sryo-palestinian Semitic pastoralists settles who clearly has the blessing of the crown, “a sort of free status", according to archaeologist Manfred Bietak (who excavated the site but being under the popular notion of a Ramesside Exodus, didn't initially make the connection between his finds and the Israelites. Egyptologist David Rohl made these connections). The group numbers between 60–100 initially, according to remains found, fitting well with the 70 or so described in the Bible that came with Jacob and his sons.
A Syrian styled 'Mittelsaal’ house is built, not Canaanite. The occupant dies (aged Jacob, Rohl suggests), and an Egyptian palace is built for a Semitic high official — likely ʿAnḫu/Joseph.
All but his are Syro-Palestinian in style.
The Semitic Syrian-originated population increased in wealth and number till Avaris becomes one if the largest cities in the ancient world. Again, from Pharaoh Amenemhat III's time for about 2 centuries comes this evidence, from Egyptian records like the Brooklyn Papyrus that lists several recognizably Biblical Israelite names and the Ipuwer Papyrus that comes from a little later in this period and recounts a series of apocalyptic disasters with the slaves despoiling their masters before vanishing, as do these Semites in Egypt after 2 centuries
David Rohl suggests that Joseph or maybe one of his 2 sons invented this simplified writing system so his Semitic people could more easily communicate in written form. Every other writing system of the day comprised of hundreds of symbols that were syllabic, represented words, very cumbersome and costly to learn. Only the elites could generally read and write.
The Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions were discovered over a century ago at an ancient Turquoise Mine called Du-Mofka in Egyptian records, 'Mountain of Turquoise’. It is generally agreed that this would be the Dophkah mentioned as a stopping point of Moses and the Israelites en route to Mt Sinai, and is presently called Serâbit El-Khâdim in Arabic.
Would rather not get into a discussion of allegory or language used to convey intent in the Bible. But do we really need to keep trying to pretend the events that took place were completely fictitious? These people really existed.
Also, slaves didn't build the pyramids, paid laborers did.
What next? Abraham existed and he lived for 175 years?
Noah existed and a great flood wiped out all life on the planet, but don't worry, because somehow he had every creature on a magical ship, that repopulated everything.....
Gonna tell us Samson was real? The guy with magical hair?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It’s illustration that there was a Jewish population in Egypt that was forced out and Moses is the story of the person who was leading them on their exodus. I don’t understand why you find it difficult to believe that happened. Again I’m not getting into the actual actions or events that occurred. Just the basis it wasn’t all a made up fiction but is based on things we can track.Sorry guy, there is ZERO historical proof that Moses existed. What, you really believe that he did, that he lived for 120 years? That he brought a plague upon Egypt that killed everyone's first born? That he split the sea in two? That the water turned into blood???
Also, slaves didn't build the pyramids, paid laborers did.
What next? Abraham existed and he lived for 175 years?
Noah existed and a great flood wiped out all life on the planet, but don't worry, because somehow he had every creature on a magical ship, that repopulated everything.....
Gonna tell us Samson was real? The guy with magical hair?
Also, slaves didn't build the pyramids, paid laborers did.
What next? Abraham existed and he lived for 175 years?
Noah existed and a great flood wiped out all life on the planet, but don't worry, because somehow he had every creature on a magical ship, that repopulated everything.....
Gonna tell us Samson was real? The guy with magical hair?
Even the historical critics will admit it’s most likely that there was a person, the discussion is on wether the events unfolded as described, if it should be interpreted as literally happening or a more creative means of illustrating the story in order to enhance its appeal/message.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I mean yea, many don't fully grasp what they've been indoctrinated into. Could call them Neo-Marxists / Neo-Commies or what I used to call them, Spongebob Bolsheviks. Useful Idiots always get capped when the "revolution" succeeds.They are not Marxist’s
They are a product of marxists
They are the subverted useful idiots who bring about societal collapse so Marxist intellectuals can implement a new order.
They are a product of marxists
They are the subverted useful idiots who bring about societal collapse so Marxist intellectuals can implement a new order.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Right..... And they wondered the desert for forty years.......It’s illustration that there was a Jewish population in Egypt that was forced out and Moses is the story of the person who was leading them on their exodus. I don’t understand why you find it difficult to believe that happened. Again I’m not getting into the actual actions or events that occurred. Just the basis it wasn’t all a made up fiction but is based on things we can track.
Even the historical critics will admit it’s most likely that there was a person, the discussion is on wether the events unfolded as described, if it should be interpreted as literally happening or a more creative means of illustrating the story in order to enhance its appeal/message.
Even the historical critics will admit it’s most likely that there was a person, the discussion is on wether the events unfolded as described, if it should be interpreted as literally happening or a more creative means of illustrating the story in order to enhance its appeal/message.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Again stuff like that doesn’t need to be accurate in order for the person to exist. Embellishment is a key to story telling and it was passed on as a story.Right..... And they wondered the desert for forty years.......
Just cuz Rico never threw a football over a mountain doesn’t mean he didn’t exist or play football in high school or even threw a ball further than anyone on the team that one time.
It’s a way to emphasize certain points or make a story more interesting.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Nothing like grasping at straws......Again stuff like that doesn’t need to be accurate in order for the person to exist. Embellishment is a key to story telling and it was passed on as a story.
Just cuz Rico never threw a football over a mountain doesn’t mean he didn’t exist or play football in high school or even threw a ball further than anyone on the team that one time.
Just cuz Rico never threw a football over a mountain doesn’t mean he didn’t exist or play football in high school or even threw a ball further than anyone on the team that one time.
What next? Adam and Eve existed?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Atheist here...Sorry guy, there is ZERO historical proof that Moses existed. What, you really believe that he did, that he lived for 120 years? That he brought a plague upon Egypt that killed everyone's first born? That he split the sea in two? That the water turned into blood???
Also, slaves didn't build the pyramids, paid laborers did.
What next? Abraham existed and he lived for 175 years?
Noah existed and a great flood wiped out all life on the planet, but don't worry, because somehow he had every creature on a magical ship, that repopulated everything.....
Gonna tell us Samson was real? The guy with magical hair?
Also, slaves didn't build the pyramids, paid laborers did.
What next? Abraham existed and he lived for 175 years?
Noah existed and a great flood wiped out all life on the planet, but don't worry, because somehow he had every creature on a magical ship, that repopulated everything.....
Gonna tell us Samson was real? The guy with magical hair?
Most of what you are criticizing is "based on a true story" with names lost due to translating back and forth between languages.
Take Jesus. Real name Yeshua. If you go straight from Hebrew to English that is Joshua. If you go to Hebrew to Roman to English you end us with Jesus.
Not hard to believe a preacher guy (common profession) named Yeshusa (common name) existed and got Crucified (not beyond reason).
Most historical texts mention a GREAT FLOOD that took place roughly 7600 years ago. Black Sea.
I would bet money Noah's Journey details a family loading up their farm animals on a fishing boat as the partially dried lake bed raised 6 inches per day.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
So there are characters that maybe existed, but they didn't perform any magic, and they didn't live for hundreds of years.....Atheist here...
Most of what you are criticizing is "based on a true story" with names lost due to translating back and forth between languages.
Take Jesus. Real name Yeshua. If you go straight from Hebrew to English that is Joshua. If you go to Hebrew to Roman to English you end us with Jesus.
Not hard to believe a preacher guy (common profession) named Yeshusa (common name) existed and got Crucified (not beyond reason).
Most historical texts mention a GREAT FLOOD that took place roughly 7600 years ago. Black Sea.
I would bet money Noah's Journey details a family loading up their farm animals on a fishing boat as the partially dried lake bed raised 6 inches per day.
Most of what you are criticizing is "based on a true story" with names lost due to translating back and forth between languages.
Take Jesus. Real name Yeshua. If you go straight from Hebrew to English that is Joshua. If you go to Hebrew to Roman to English you end us with Jesus.
Not hard to believe a preacher guy (common profession) named Yeshusa (common name) existed and got Crucified (not beyond reason).
Most historical texts mention a GREAT FLOOD that took place roughly 7600 years ago. Black Sea.
I would bet money Noah's Journey details a family loading up their farm animals on a fishing boat as the partially dried lake bed raised 6 inches per day.
We all know Mohammed existed, but you really belive that the moon split in half, and that he flew up to the heavens on a Pegasus? Because Muslims actually believe that happened.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Pagan here and I do believe that Loki was impregnated by a horse and birthed an eight legged SleipnirSo there are characters that maybe existed, but they didn't perform any magic, and they didn't live for hundreds of years.....
We all know Mohammed existed, but you really belive that the moon split in half, and that he flew up to the heavens on a Pegasus? Because Muslims actually believe that happened.
We all know Mohammed existed, but you really belive that the moon split in half, and that he flew up to the heavens on a Pegasus? Because Muslims actually believe that happened.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Interesting that those who believe that Adam and Eve were giants that lived for 900 years, would mock your beliefs.Pagan here and I do believe that Loki was impregnated by a horse and birthed an eight legged Sleipnir

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If Columbus should have his statue torn down because he was a genocidal killer of indigenous people who were here before them, then Zionists should be condemned for their genocidal war against indigenous Palestinians. They are the region's "Native Americans." Jew Soros Antifa has run into a fundamental contradiction. They are nothing more than tools of the international Jews LOL. I laugh at them.
Who is J6 "Scaffold Commander," the key to the J6 Fedsurrection? https://rumble.com/v45y4z6-why-is-the-king-pin-of-j6-scaffold-commander-not-wanted-nor-identified-by-t.html
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I perform "magick" on a daily basis, magick is simply casting a "spell" on someone which will cause them to perform some act that they are capable of doing but do not actually want to do.So there are characters that maybe existed, but they didn't perform any magic, and they didn't live for hundreds of years.....
We all know Mohammed existed, but you really belive that the moon split in half, and that he flew up to the heavens on a Pegasus? Because Muslims actually believe that happened.
We all know Mohammed existed, but you really belive that the moon split in half, and that he flew up to the heavens on a Pegasus? Because Muslims actually believe that happened.
As you become aware of it and grow your abilities, you'll figure out how to cast more serious spells that can lead to more serious acts with fewer resources, like in small ball poker.
Magick works off the subjects desires, so if you want to avoid being put under spell, you must learn to control or conceal your desires.
I: Self, Lord and Master.
"I rub my hands when my palms itch."
"I call you Son not because you Shine but because you Mine."
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
It was always very apparent. Same with hiding behind blacks and using us against whites. Top level jew move for sure, but it was also very obious at the same time. If blacks refused to be pawns, it wouldnt work. If whites refused to be weak, it wouldnt work. But neither group stood strong so it worked.Last year, it was an anti-semetic trope to suggest Western jews should care about Israel, today, if those same Western jews dont show immediately loyalty(to a foreign nation)... that same media labels them a pro Hamas terrorist.
White privilege was invented for the sole purpose to give cover to jewish privilege...that couldn't be any more clear than now.
White privilege was invented for the sole purpose to give cover to jewish privilege...that couldn't be any more clear than now.
And now they're cutting loose ends, starting with muzzies.
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These leftists are stupid children who loved censorship and cancel culture because they couldn't see it happening to them. Imagine wanting corporations to have all that power and thinking they'd never turn on you
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