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post 1692660333 11-01-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I'm pretty sure this is the same study that was posted about a week ago. The original study was done by an arm of Harvard. If you look at this research facility, the donors are a bunch of liberal globalist extremists.

Harvard, once the pinnacle of research and education, has become a cesspool of extremism. Take everything coming out of that school with a grain of salt at this point
They actually found out it was harmful to whites but anyone participating in a BLM march would be fine and happy no matter what they eat. Just like they were safe from Covid
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
They actually found out it was harmful to whites but anyone participating in a BLM march would be fine and happy no matter what they eat. Just like they were safe from Covid
Neither of those findings are presented in the paper
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Neither of those findings are presented in the paper
Listen child, do you really believe that a high protein, low carb diet is gonna lead to diabetes???
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Listen child, do you really believe that a high protein, low carb diet is gonna lead to diabetes???
No and that's not what's reported in this study.
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Just more bad science, just like the Covid vaccine studies. Just because you got a pHD and call your self a scientist doesn’t mean your smart.
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Originally Posted By Kilted100⏩
Just more bad science, just like the Covid vaccine studies. Just because you got a pHD and call your self a scientist doesn’t mean your smart.
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Left wingers: if it wasn't for lies and propaganda, nothing would be on their side.
post 1692671843 11-01-2023, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Neither of those findings are presented in the paper
Didnyoumkiss the COVID reports

BLM could gather in crowds and were immune from Covid

Same with high Cholesterol, only whites should alter their diets. Blacks can eat what they want. Anything else would be racism. It’s in the report
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post 1692672083 11-01-2023, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
Didnyoumkiss the COVID reports

BLM could gather in crowds and were immune from Covid

Same with high Cholesterol, only whites should alter their diets. Blacks can eat what they want. Anything else would be racism. It’s in the report
The study in the OP is about type 2 diabetes and red meat consumption. Neither covid nor BLM are mentioned in the paper.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Left wingers: if it wasn't for lies and propaganda, nothing would be on their side.
Socialism and communism, along with anything else associated with leftism, does not have any demand. The demand must be manufactured and forced on to the people. The propaganda usually only works on the youth, and a few other weak minded groups. This creates the political environment to coerce, a.k.a., create a dictatorship.
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post 1692673463 11-01-2023, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Socialism and communism, along with anything else associated with leftism, does not have any demand. The demand must be manufactured and forced on to the people. The propaganda usually only works on the youth, and a few other weak minded groups. This creates the political environment to coerce, a.k.a., create a dictatorship.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You wouldn't be the first to suggest scientific pursuit is more left than right
Concession?
post 1692674003 11-01-2023, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Concession?
For who, you?

For you, it's all about winning the discussion and never about the truth. Why would we choose to engage in a discussion with someone with this mindset? You are through and through a leftist, who doesn't want to have a change of mind.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
For who, you?

For you, it's all about winning the discussion and never about the truth. Why would we choose to engage in a discussion with someone with this mindset? You are through and through a leftist, who doesn't want to have a change of mind.
I was just wondering if you were gonna follow up on how academics do intentionally bad research to get rich, with some kind of support/evidence
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Right, like how the unvaccinated were a threat to the vaccinated, and if you got the jab, you were 100% protected against the Rona?
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Wat?

Stop acting stupid. You know damn well that you all **** your pants in horror over the unvaxxed Untermensch.

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Stop acting stupid. You know damn well that you all **** your pants in horror over the unvaxxed Untermensch.
But this thread is about type 2 diabetes and red meat consumption
post 1692676083 11-01-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
But this thread is about type 2 diabetes and red meat consumption
Sometimes people use these things called"analogies"to make a point.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/analogy
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post 1692676333 11-01-2023, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Sometimes people use these things called"analogies"to make a point.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/analogy
If you wanna relate things to covid, that's cool. Just please don't try to put it on me
post 1692676763 11-01-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
If you wanna relate things to covid, that's cool. Just please don't try to put it on me
Nobody has any respect for you and your covid bug chasing phaqqotry, so if the mood hits me to relate something and "put it on you" for whatever reason, then...

I will.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Nobody has any respect for you and your covid bug chasing phaqqotry, so if the mood hits me to relate something and "put it on you" for whatever reason, then...

I will.
Okay. But who brought covid into this thread?

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Okay. But who brought covid into this thread?

You love covid though.. You should be happy. No?
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rofl J.L.C going full retard as usual. Dude believes anything anyone ever writes in a study is the truth.

How about using a little bit of common sense for once?
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Originally Posted By Azure84⏩
rofl J.L.C going full retard as usual. Dude believes anything anyone ever writes in a study is the truth.

How about using a little bit of common sense for once?
Unless it disrespects his sacred covid.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Unless it disrespects his sacred covid.
Nobody read the study tho
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So by what biochemical reactions is eating lots of red meat itself supposed to lead to type 2 diabetes?
Crickets. No explanation.

Reminds me of the claims years ago about high fat diets causing heart disease, but that was never proven. Data from multiple countries that didn't fit that hypothesis was excluded. And a biggie for those decades ago when smoking was more common it turned out people who ate lots of red meat were also a lot more likely to smoke than people who ate little red meat. A coinciding more common behavior (smoking) was almost certainly the root cause, and of course excluding almost half of the data collected because it didn't fit the hypothesis = junk science. But it's what created the high sugar, no/low fat food craze, and saw obesity rapidly grow immediately.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
It will catch up to them. Plenty of people drink excessive amounts of alcohol daily and stay fit and appear healthy. Causation, correlation, son.

But hey, you dinosaurs will one day realize plants are the key to prosperity; too bad you'll have one leg and a nutsack in the grave by then.
Oh that's right, you're a vegan twink aren't you son?
Originally Posted By EctoCanuck⏩
Location and ethnicity should also considered. I'm 1/4 Aboriginal Canadian and I eat red meat every day. Natives traditionally ate a meat-based diet. Depending on the time of year Natives ate meat 70%-100% of the time.

Inuit(Eskimos) ate 100% meat in the winter. When they were first studied researchers found that Inuits had 0% diabetes and 0% heart disease. Nearly impossible to develop diabetes when you don't eat carbs and the fish they ate was high in healthy fats.

Today Diabetes runs 300% higher among Natives and Inuit because of the switch to a carb-based diet. Doctors and Dietitians are urging Natives to switch back to a meat-based diet.

FWIW I ate a T-bone steak for supper and will probably eat a half rack of ribs with rice for my pre-workout meal.

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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
So by what biochemical reactions is eating lots of red meat itself supposed to lead to type 2 diabetes?
Crickets. No explanation.

Reminds me of the claims years ago about high fat diets causing heart disease, but that was never proven. Data from multiple countries that didn't fit that hypothesis was excluded. And a biggie for those decades ago when smoking was more common it turned out people who ate lots of red meat were also a lot more likely to smoke than people who ate little red meat. A coinciding more common behavior (smoking) was almost certainly the root cause, and of course excluding almost half of the data collected because it didn't fit the hypothesis = junk science. But it's what created the high sugar, no/low fat food craze, and saw obesity rapidly grow immediately.
The study used multi-variate analysis and proportional hazard models in deriving an association between red meat and diabeetus.



Which would mean they've adjusted for obesity and lifestyle. Scientists are actually aware FYI that if you don't account for random noise your studies are kind of worthless, and it wouldn't pass peer reviews.

Of course, I doubt that will prevent any of the cultists chanting " ZEE JOOZ!" or "MUH PHARMA" or some other sort of ludicrous conspiracy that some evil entity is in control of "science", but hopefully it makes one person think an d consider the study.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
The study used multi-variate analysis and proportional hazard models in deriving an association between red meat and diabeetus.



Which would mean they've adjusted for obesity and lifestyle. Scientists are actually aware FYI that if you don't account for random noise your studies are kind of worthless, and it wouldn't pass peer reviews.

Of course, I doubt that will prevent any of the cultists chanting " ZEE JOOZ!" or "MUH PHARMA" or some other sort of ludicrous conspiracy that some evil entity is in control of "science", but hopefully it makes one person think an d consider the study.
But they didn't. You can see in the data tables they did a pisspoor job of adjusting for lifestyle and other dietary factors. It's surprisingly bad.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
The study used multi-variate analysis and proportional hazard models in deriving an association between red meat and diabeetus.



Which would mean they've adjusted for obesity and lifestyle. Scientists are actually aware FYI that if you don't account for random noise your studies are kind of worthless, and it wouldn't pass peer reviews.

Of course, I doubt that will prevent any of the cultists chanting " ZEE JOOZ!" or "MUH PHARMA" or some other sort of ludicrous conspiracy that some evil entity is in control of "science", but hopefully it makes one person think an d consider the study.
Bhody self pwns again.
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Lol @ trusting a school full of antisemitic middle-eastern terrorist supporters.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
But they didn't. You can see in the data tables they did a pisspoor job of adjusting for lifestyle and other dietary factors. It's surprisingly bad.
They conditioned on those variables and reported the effects from those adjusted models.
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