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11-14-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Back to calling Trump "Hitler" again???

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Rent-free, son. Rent-free. What does it feel like having me be the first person you think about when you get up in the morning and me being the last person you think about when you go to sleep?No, that'd be Carl Spackler.
You could use a nickel's worth, son.
You could use a nickel's worth, son.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
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It's shocking how much worse he has gotten since "Grab them by the pussy". Now he has normalized what would be career ending rhetoric in days of yore.
Conservatives can't seem to succeed in a unified and peaceful America. No intention of peacefully existing. Hypocritical AF too, because if a democrat says something vaguely Marx-esque, suddenly they're all evil socialist cabals and want to molest all children through the trojan horse of drag shows. But Trump says Hitler-tier language, and it's business as usual.
Don't forget either, fascists aren't actually major geniuses or masterminds. They've tended to be incompetent and hateful that commandeered the stupidity and irrational fear of people. Lies, violence and conspiracies give them a platform of power. Usually some elites give a hand thinking the populist movements can be worked for their own purposes.
A single stupid person is just retarded and harmless. But you gather enough stupidity in sufficient quantities and it becomes evil and very dangerous. This kind of evil causes much more damage than beguiling supervillian style evil.
It's shocking how much worse he has gotten since "Grab them by the pussy". Now he has normalized what would be career ending rhetoric in days of yore.
Conservatives can't seem to succeed in a unified and peaceful America. No intention of peacefully existing. Hypocritical AF too, because if a democrat says something vaguely Marx-esque, suddenly they're all evil socialist cabals and want to molest all children through the trojan horse of drag shows. But Trump says Hitler-tier language, and it's business as usual.
Don't forget either, fascists aren't actually major geniuses or masterminds. They've tended to be incompetent and hateful that commandeered the stupidity and irrational fear of people. Lies, violence and conspiracies give them a platform of power. Usually some elites give a hand thinking the populist movements can be worked for their own purposes.
A single stupid person is just retarded and harmless. But you gather enough stupidity in sufficient quantities and it becomes evil and very dangerous. This kind of evil causes much more damage than beguiling supervillian style evil.

Same sh*t, different day....
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Well, I don't know if Steven Miller is just trolling, but he's definitely using Hitler quotes and just changing the subject of the hate its directed toward. "Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I LOVE it Carl!Rent-free, son. Rent-free. What does it feel like having me be the first person you think about when you get up in the morning and me being the last person you think about when you go to sleep?
Because you simply can't buy the entertainment that comes from fuking withThe Crusherand watching you get spun up, son.

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11-14-2023, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
The rhetoric will only get worse and worse as Trump realizes he will be going to prison and his only hope for escape is to win the presidency. You will see his behavior SKYROCKET as each trial goes further and further, as the walls slowly close in... until he's a raving lunatic begging his base to attack and lash out for his freedom.. just like he did leading up to Jan 6th and his eventual extermination from the White House.Many news outlets reporting on his statement of Jihad. The stupidity of the entire campaign/cult even further doubles down when asked to explain “why so violent?”.
“Those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome,” a campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, said, “and their sad, miserable existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”
Basically saying on Monday that the “sad, miserable existence” of THOSE WHO MADE SUCH COMPARISONS would be “crushed” with Mr. Trump back in the White House.
Dear Leader sounding just like those religious loving jihadist at this stage in their campaign. “The Muslim faith is one of love and peace!! But if you don’t believe us and say otherwise then we will cut off the heads of the infidels and burn their bodies on the streets for saying we are a violent religion dammit!!!”
“Those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome,” a campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, said, “and their sad, miserable existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”
Basically saying on Monday that the “sad, miserable existence” of THOSE WHO MADE SUCH COMPARISONS would be “crushed” with Mr. Trump back in the White House.
Dear Leader sounding just like those religious loving jihadist at this stage in their campaign. “The Muslim faith is one of love and peace!! But if you don’t believe us and say otherwise then we will cut off the heads of the infidels and burn their bodies on the streets for saying we are a violent religion dammit!!!”
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
After 8 years, this time he's finally going to prison!!!! The walls are closing in, the beginning of the end!!!!The rhetoric will only get worse and worse as Trump realizes he will be going to prison and his only hope for escape is to win the presidency. You will see his behavior SKYROCKET as each trial goes further and further, as the walls slowly close in... until he's a raving lunatic begging his base to attack and lash out for his freedom.. just like he did leading up to Jan 6th and his eventual extermination from the White House.
11-14-2023, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Imagine if Bushy here focused on the thread topic instead of trying to play gotcha with every liberal that enters a thread. I guess his spank bank he spams here would be useless then..Hey Benny?
Are the feds targeting Eric Adams because he criticized Joe Biden?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...&ei=9#comments
Or do you still want to pretend like it's the Russian mob?
Are the feds targeting Eric Adams because he criticized Joe Biden?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...&ei=9#comments
Or do you still want to pretend like it's the Russian mob?
11-14-2023, 01:53 PM
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In conclusion, while the Misc section of bodybuilding forums serves as a platform for diverse discussions, the presence of individuals like Bodhy underscores the prevalence of pseudo-intellectualism within online spaces. Bodhy's behavior, characterized by intellectual posturing, superficiality, and an inclination towards confirmation bias, serves as a reminder of the importance of fostering genuine intellectual curiosity, critical thinking, and respectful dialogue within online communities.
Bodhy, a prominent and often-controversial figure in the Misc, exudes an air of self-proclaimed intellectualism. Often seen pontificating on various topics, from philosophy to geopolitics, Bodhy strives to position himself as an erudite authority, sharing his thoughts with an air of unwavering certainty. However, beneath this facade lies a pattern of behavior characteristic of pseudo-intellectualism.
Pseudo-intellectualism is marked by the inclination to present oneself as highly knowledgeable or intelligent without the substantive expertise or intellectual rigor to back it up. Bodhy frequently exemplifies this by employing verbose language and referencing esoteric concepts without demonstrating a comprehensive understanding of these subjects. His arguments often lack depth, relying more on superficial knowledge or regurgitated information found elsewhere on the internet.
Moreover, Bodhy exhibits a tendency to engage in intellectual one-upmanship. He often enters discussions with an air of condescension, dismissing opposing viewpoints without genuine consideration. Instead of fostering meaningful discourse, his interactions devolve into attempts to showcase his perceived intellectual superiority, disregarding the opportunity for a constructive exchange of ideas.
However, Bodhy's pseudo-intellectual behavior is not solely confined to his communication style. It extends to his selective engagement with information and his propensity for confirmation bias. He tends to cherry-pick data or sources that align with his preconceived notions, disregarding contradictory evidence. This approach undermines intellectual integrity and inhibits the pursuit of genuine knowledge and understanding.
Furthermore, Bodhy's reliance on intellectual posturing rather than fostering a collaborative learning environment perpetuates an atmosphere of divisiveness within the forum's community. His approach discourages individuals from sharing their perspectives freely, fostering an environment where intimidation stifles diverse opinions and healthy debates.
Nevertheless, the existence of a pseudo-intellectual figure like Bodhy within the Misc section prompts reflection on the nature of intellectualism in online forums. It highlights the importance of discernment and critical thinking amidst the vast expanse of information available on the internet. Users must recognize the difference between genuine expertise and superficial displays of knowledge, fostering a culture of intellectual humility and open-mindedness.
Moreover, the presence of Bodhy and others like him underscores the need for fostering a community centered on genuine intellectual curiosity and respectful discourse. Encouraging users to engage in thoughtful discussions, backed by substantiated arguments and a willingness to consider diverse perspectives, can elevate the quality of discourse within the Misc section.
In conclusion, while the Misc section of bodybuilding forums serves as a platform for diverse discussions, the presence of individuals like Bodhy underscores the prevalence of pseudo-intellectualism within online spaces. Bodhy's behavior, characterized by intellectual posturing, superficiality, and an inclination towards confirmation bias, serves as a reminder of the importance of fostering genuine intellectual curiosity, critical thinking, and respectful dialogue within online communities.
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11-14-2023, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Actually, the thread topic is the tranny-soliciting fake intellectual of an OP once again falsely saying that being against illegal immigrants and saying mean things about the people who are trying to become the first presidential administration in US history trying to imprison their opponent is no different than Hitler; the irony in that second point being off the charts.Imagine if Bushy here focused on the thread topic instead of trying to play gotcha with every liberal that enters a thread. I guess his spank bank he spams here would be useless then..
He's been appropriately mocked, made fun of, and had his hilariously stupid premise disproven as usual, so we're free to move on to different things.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
So neither you or Benny are going to touch that one with a 10ft pole, are you lol.Imagine if Bushy here focused on the thread topic instead of trying to play gotcha with every liberal that enters a thread. I guess his spank bank he spams here would be useless then..
Black liberal mayor of NYC is the victim of another political witch hunt guise... Where's your outrage? Where's you screams of "Dictatorship" and "That's not who we are!"

...which believe it or not IS kinda the point. On one hand you're all queefing about "Hitler-esqrhetoric" - yet in a clear instance of Hitler-esqactions..... *crickets*
What's up with that anyway? What's the (D)ifference?

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Not to mention we're still waiting on OP to condemn the rise in open anti-semetic rhetoric and violence that the political party in the US that he supports from afar refuses to condemn. Or the governor of New York openly saying she wants to crack down on wrong-think on social media. You know, actual Hitler-esque stuff.So neither you or Benny are going to touch that one with a 10ft pole, are you lol.
Black liberal mayor of NYC is the victim of another political witch hunt guise... Where's your outrage? Where's you screams of "Dictatorship" and "That's not who we are!"
...which believe it or not IS kinda the point. On one hand you're all queefing about "Hitler-esqrhetoric" - yet in a clear instance of Hitler-esqactions..... *crickets*
What's up with that anyway? What's the (D)ifference?
Black liberal mayor of NYC is the victim of another political witch hunt guise... Where's your outrage? Where's you screams of "Dictatorship" and "That's not who we are!"

...which believe it or not IS kinda the point. On one hand you're all queefing about "Hitler-esqrhetoric" - yet in a clear instance of Hitler-esqactions..... *crickets*
What's up with that anyway? What's the (D)ifference?

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11-14-2023, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Well i don't have the attention span of a mouse like you; i focused on Bhodys link and paragraph in post #1.So neither you or Benny are going to touch that one with a 10ft pole, are you lol.
Black liberal mayor of NYC is the victim of another political witch hunt guise... Where's your outrage? Where's you screams of "Dictatorship" and "That's not who we are!"
...which believe it or not IS kinda the point. On one hand you're all queefing about "Hitler-esqrhetoric" - yet in a clear instance of Hitler-esqactions..... *crickets*
What's up with that anyway? What's the (D)ifference?
Black liberal mayor of NYC is the victim of another political witch hunt guise... Where's your outrage? Where's you screams of "Dictatorship" and "That's not who we are!"

...which believe it or not IS kinda the point. On one hand you're all queefing about "Hitler-esqrhetoric" - yet in a clear instance of Hitler-esqactions..... *crickets*
What's up with that anyway? What's the (D)ifference?

It was quite easy........ since the post was about the former president and not some random mayor.....WHICH IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS POST.
STAY ON TOPIC, OR SPIN OFF INTO SOME TANGENT THAT SOME DUDE DESIRES....
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
As stated earlier, considering that you belong to the political party that believes in nude drag queens twerking for children and encouraging 2nd graders to cut off their genitals, it's an odd thing you're admitting the truth that you belong to the deplorable portion of the country.She was right.
At least you're getting braver in admitting the truth - you know, like when you accidentally outed yourself. Oops.
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
A better question - which political party in the US is failing to condemn (and in some cases even openly endorses) violent anti-semetic rhetoric?Stop using Jews for your own selfish reasons, u fool. Out of Trudeau, bodhy, and Trump:
One has has blackface
One has made hol0caust jokes
One has done none of those
Who is who?
One has has blackface
One has made hol0caust jokes
One has done none of those
Who is who?
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Originally Posted By uncle
Pssssssst.. HEY BENNY!Well i don't have the attention span of a mouse like you; i focused on Bhodys link and paragraph in post #1.
It was quite easy........ since the post was about the former president and not some random mayor.....WHICH IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS POST.
STAY ON TOPIC, OR SPIN OFF INTO SOME TANGENT THAT SOME DUDE DESIRES....
It was quite easy........ since the post was about the former president and not some random mayor.....WHICH IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS POST.
STAY ON TOPIC, OR SPIN OFF INTO SOME TANGENT THAT SOME DUDE DESIRES....
The topics are 100% related whether your little "property of the DNC" brain can understand it or not little buddy.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I LOVE it Carl!

Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Except Trump is using the same exact quotes except replacing the word Jew in the quotes with some form of the word liberal. It would be one thing if it happened only once or twice, but when it's more than you can count on one hand using a different iteration verbatim each time, it's obviously intentional. Dunno if Trump realizes Miller is writing his speeches using Hitler's quotes or if he cares, but it's not going to pan out the way he thinks.Stop using Jews for your own selfish reasons, u fool.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Except Trump is using the same exact quotes except replacing the word Jew in the quotes with some form of the word liberal. It would be one thing if it happened only once or twice, but when it's more than you can count on one hand, it's obviously intentional. Dunno if Trump realizes Miller is writing his speeches using Hitler's quotes or if he cares, but it's not going to pan out the way he thinks.
What does that have to do with my post? I said blackface and bodhys jokes about people dying in Holocaust. I also remember when they said something about trump's make America great again. It turned out Howard Dean used it
Except Trump is using the same exact quotes except replacing the word Jew in the quotes with some form of the word liberal. It would be one thing if it happened only once or twice, but when it's more than you can count on one hand, it's obviously intentional. Dunno if Trump realizes Miller is writing his speeches using Hitler's quotes or if he cares, but it's not going to pan out the way he thinks.
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Huh? The entire thread is about Trump using Hitler quotes at his cult rallies. His Make America Great Again was Reagan's slogan. He just put a Let's in front of Make America Great Again.What does that have to do with my post? I said blackface and bodhys jokes about people dying in Holocaust. I also remember when they said something about trump's make America great again. It turned out Howard Dean used it
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You don't want America to be great?Huh? The entire thread is about Trump using Hitler quotes at his cult rallies. His Make America Great Again was Reagan's slogan. He just put a Let's in front of Make America Great Again.
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And yet I've seen zero denunciation by you of leftists referring to Republicans as MAGAts. (Maggots).
PS, communists are vermin.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Show the Hitler quotes, and then we can compare Trump's quotes.Huh? The entire thread is about Trump using Hitler quotes at his cult rallies. His Make America Great Again was Reagan's slogan. He just put a Let's in front of Make America Great Again.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Better yet, let's see a Trump speech that looks like this:Show the Hitler quotes, and then we can compare Trump's quotes.

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- Bodhy
- Paddling to New Zealand
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
I never said I travelled anywhere to have sex with ladyboys. Dating apps let you talk to anyone in the world.Probably??
Bodhy has admitted he goes to foreign countries to have sex with trafficked children/lady boys. Ded srs
Fabian...AFAIK, he just watches.
Bodhy has admitted he goes to foreign countries to have sex with trafficked children/lady boys. Ded srs
Fabian...AFAIK, he just watches.
Why would you deliberately make up this chit about trafficked children? Tinder is a dating app for adults. Is this dork suggesting a multinational company headquartered in Texas, is literally facilitating paedophilia by putting adults and children into contact for romantic encounters?
Do these children use dating apps and willingly scroll through adults profiles and swipe on ones they find attractive? You can't talk to anyone on Tinder unless they match with you.
Do cultists even think about this absolute nonsense they write about people?
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
11-14-2023, 06:30 PM
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#89
11-14-2023, 06:33 PM
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#90
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
So you like to get on dating apps, and just chat up trannies in random parts of the world?I never said I travelled anywhere to have sex with ladyboys. Dating apps let you talk to anyone in the world.
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Economic boon!Was he wrong about anything he said?
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