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» Found out today that i'm extremely underpaid compared to my colleagues

View Poll Results: What should i do?

Voters: 13.
start applying for other jobs now and leave
6 46%
Wait until i have a year in the company and ask for a raise
2 15%
Speak with my manager now and ask for a pay bump.
5 38%
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post 1693826623 11-23-2023, 02:33 PM
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Found out today that i'm extremely underpaid compared to my colleagues

Srs advices would be greatly appreciated brahs.

Graduated almost a year ago (cs). took a qa position as the market was trash (wanted to be a dev) it was an automation position though so i coded a lot.
I came to the negotiating a bit afraid (after months of looking for a job all i cared about was being accepted for the position), and we agreed on a salary that is meh for this role in my area. let's say 10% less than the average, but my company is a huge funded start up so salaries are pretty high, I know someone that started the same position with no experience a few months before me and got 20% more.

a few months after starting i was offered to move to a dev (c#) position. This was great for me because this is what i wanted to do. A pay bump wasn't raised up, and honestly i though i will be really underpaid with this salary as a dev in a company like this, but i still accepted the role of course without doubt.
This week i finally chatted with some colleagues about salaries and what the company usually give, and apparently all junior devs that started in the recent year, with no experience at all (just like me) get 60-70% more.

Honestly i felt like a clown at that moment. I know im not entitled to anything, and that i should be grateful for having a job in this market, but knowing that people that are pretty much at my level make so much more than me just make me feel worthless. And honestly when comparing myself to the rest of the juniors i think i preform very well.

A few points:
1. I'm only 7 months in this company. 3 as a dev. I think i'm doing well overall iny my job - managers agree.
2. Comared to the market i'm being underpaid around 25-30%, compared to my company i get 60-70% less.
3. I have no leverage at all - market is trash, if i'm out of the company tomorrow it will likely take me 3-4-5 months to get a job.
4. Overall i love working in this company. But for the last week i just kept feeling like trash.


I need advices on 2 subjects here -
1. How should i operate right now in order to get a pay bump? My first position wasn't a lot far from this one, i coded alot, so this is not really a promotion. And im not even a year in this company, i feel like im in a tough spot.
2. How can i cope with this chit? I honestly can't stop thinking about it.
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post 1693826933 11-23-2023, 02:40 PM
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apply for job
leverage new job for increase or just switch
????
profit
Make Europe Germany Again
post 1693827343 11-23-2023, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
apply for job
leverage new job for increase or just switch
????
profit
/thread
-Virtue is its own reward

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post 1693828383 11-23-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
apply for job
leverage new job for increase or just switch
????
profit
I'm trying to think if there is a possibility to stay in this job and get a pay bump, looking for a new job will probably take 3+ months
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post 1693828403 11-23-2023, 03:23 PM
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option 3
post 1693828453 11-23-2023, 03:24 PM
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Either accept it for what it is or apply elsewhere if you want to move up badly enough. Srs. It's not worth trying to win them over to promote you when they clearly don't want to.
post 1693828473 11-23-2023, 03:25 PM
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Cliffs?
post 1693828633 11-23-2023, 03:29 PM
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Just read, you’re dumb AF for not asking for a raise

Just save your self respect and leave
post 1693828753 11-23-2023, 03:33 PM
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Start looking for other jobs, but it doesn't hurt to ask for a raise. You know they don't respect you or your work if they underpaid you that much. Your job will be among the first they eliminate if things get tough. Probably best to get out of there.
post 1693828763 11-23-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By ButcherSir
I'm trying to think if there is a possibility to stay in this job and get a pay bump, looking for a new job will probably take 3+ months
He just outlined the process to stay at your current job and make more money. Secure an outside offer, present it to your company, and see if they match it. If they do, profit. If they don't, do you really wanna stay with a company underpaying you by 60%?
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post 1693828803 11-23-2023, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By ButcherSir
I'm trying to think if there is a possibility to stay in this job and get a pay bump, looking for a new job will probably take 3+ months
The thing is, the moment you point out how underpaid you are and that you deserve more, they'll already fish for reasons to eliminate you. So you should already be ready to bail at this point.
post 1693828843 11-23-2023, 03:36 PM
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If you really want a raise, start looking for other jobs and give yourself an opportunity + leverage.

Or, suck it up and put a couple years in working for a company you like, advocate for a raise when appropriate (reviews), and build up your resume so you can net a really good role when the market improves. Think less about what you feel you're entitled to and more about what you want to earn.
post 1693828853 11-23-2023, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
apply for job
leverage new job for increase or just switch
????
profit
This
post 1693829243 11-23-2023, 03:45 PM
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There’s only three options.

1. Deal with it.

2. Ask for a raise matching similar to colleagues, but make sure you have good tenure.

3. Start looking for a new org, interview, get job offer, produce job offer’s salary and benefits/perks if they outshine current org and ask to match it or you quit.
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post 1693829643 11-23-2023, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By -JR
He just outlined the process to stay at your current job and make more money. Secure an outside offer, present it to your company, and see if they match it. If they do, profit. If they don't, do you really wanna stay with a company underpaying you by 60%?
Originally Posted By radrd
If you really want a raise, start looking for other jobs and give yourself an opportunity + leverage.

Or, suck it up and put a couple years in working for a company you like, advocate for a raise when appropriate (reviews), and build up your resume so you can net a really good role when the market improves. Think less about what you feel you're entitled to and more about what you want to earn.
Next reviews are only in 5 months.

Do you think asking for a pay adjustment to the new role, now, is a bad idea? rude? Inappropriate? likely to fail?
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post 1693829673 11-23-2023, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By ButcherSir
I'm trying to think if there is a possibility to stay in this job and get a pay bump, looking for a new job will probably take 3+ months
better start now

just monkeybranch like a sloot in a relationship
Make Europe Germany Again
post 1693830303 11-23-2023, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
better start now

just monkeybranch like a sloot in a relationship
Do you think asking for a pay adjustment now is a bad idea that could backfire on me?
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post 1693830553 11-23-2023, 04:16 PM
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in the meanwhile start stealing office supplies..
post 1693831223 11-23-2023, 04:35 PM
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Moving around is definitely the way to get quicker pay increases, pretty difficult to get them internally even if you’re top notch

Try to get more from the company while also looking for new opportunities
post 1693831273 11-23-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By baroni01
in the meanwhile start stealing office supplies..
post 1693831313 11-23-2023, 04:38 PM
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Send dick pics to your boss.
post 1693831343 11-23-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By ButcherSir
Do you think asking for a pay adjustment now is a bad idea that could backfire on me?
sounds like you're already living the worst case scenario srs
Make Europe Germany Again
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