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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
I don't know the ins and outs of the arrangements with his parents but im 99% sure they pay some sort of rent and contribute towards the grocery bill.I thought that was pretty much standard for the East Coast, mainly New York and New Jersey, other New England states. Common for people to live with their parents at least until they get married and have kids, then they move out. Now that things have sufficiently gone to **** I can understand if they want to wait things out especially with the economy being really shaky at the moment, as well.
by the way you didn't say if he was paying his way for anything. I mean if he was paying and his share of all the expenses it's more understandable. Saying "he still lives at home with his parents" makes people assume he's just freeloading completely
by the way you didn't say if he was paying his way for anything. I mean if he was paying and his share of all the expenses it's more understandable. Saying "he still lives at home with his parents" makes people assume he's just freeloading completely
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
He can def provide for himself, and could move out and afford his own place, but he would have ALOT less money to use on his hobbies and for savings. He is into cars and spends alot of money buying and fixing up old cars. I do think his priorities are kinda messed up and he is stuck in a child like state of being. And like I said in the OP, I don't think any American woman would have put up with that situation, be literally found his wife from a 3rd world country and brought her over here. I kinda feel like my cousins never experienced any life situations that forced them to "grow up" so they are just stuck in a loop living in the same house for over 30 years now with mom and dad.He's 34 years old, if he can't provide for himself, then maybe he shouldn't have gotten married, and had two kids...... And I'm shocked that she would marry such a guy, she must be a real catch.....
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Originally Posted By MisterJustice⏩
The issue is, that at what point does a man decide that it is time to go out on his own?what exactly is the issue here? the guy has a job, even has a wife, so its not like hes a basement dwelling incel who plays world of warcraft all day sipping on mountain dew
expect to see this more and more, current young generation is fukked
expect to see this more and more, current young generation is fukked
Most people consider it the norm to be more independent in your 20's, moving out and charting your own course through life. With a wife and kids isn't it a bit ridiculous to live in the same bedroom you grow up in as a CHILD? I just don't see how you can have a 100% happy relationship while living at home.
I'm an independent kinda guy and like doing things on my own terms, can you consider yourself truly grown up and independent when you have never lived apart from your parents?
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
Okay that's a little different. Guess I glossed over the OP.I don't know the ins and outs of the arrangements with his parents but im 99% sure they pay some sort of rent and contribute towards the grocery bill.
He can def provide for himself, and could move out and afford his own place, but he would have ALOT less money to use on his hobbies and for savings. He is into cars and spends alot of money buying and fixing up old cars. I do think his priorities are kinda messed up and he is stuck in a child like state of being. And like I said in the OP, I don't think any American woman would have put up with that situation, be literally found his wife from a 3rd world country and brought her over here. I kinda feel like my cousins never experienced any life situations that forced them to "grow up" so they are just stuck in a loop living in the same house for over 30 years now with mom and dad.
He can def provide for himself, and could move out and afford his own place, but he would have ALOT less money to use on his hobbies and for savings. He is into cars and spends alot of money buying and fixing up old cars. I do think his priorities are kinda messed up and he is stuck in a child like state of being. And like I said in the OP, I don't think any American woman would have put up with that situation, be literally found his wife from a 3rd world country and brought her over here. I kinda feel like my cousins never experienced any life situations that forced them to "grow up" so they are just stuck in a loop living in the same house for over 30 years now with mom and dad.
I figured they both decided to do that to save pretty hard to buy a place given the economic times, which makes sense.
In this case it does sort of sound like he's kind of taking advantage focusing on hobbies like that. If you're 34 with a wife and kid, your main focus should be financial reliability/security and being a good father/husband. The hobby **** comes after.
12-03-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
I mean what do you consider an adult? I've met MANY adults that act like children and I've met children act more grown up than adultsThe issue is, that at what point does a man decide that it is time to go out on his own?
Most people consider it the norm to be more independent in your 20's, moving out and charting your own course through life. With a wife and kids isn't it a bit ridiculous to live in the same bedroom you grow up in as a CHILD? I just don't see how you can have a 100% happy relationship while living at home.
I'm an independent kinda guy and like doing things on my own terms, can you consider yourself truly grown up and independent when you have never lived apart from your parents?
Most people consider it the norm to be more independent in your 20's, moving out and charting your own course through life. With a wife and kids isn't it a bit ridiculous to live in the same bedroom you grow up in as a CHILD? I just don't see how you can have a 100% happy relationship while living at home.
I'm an independent kinda guy and like doing things on my own terms, can you consider yourself truly grown up and independent when you have never lived apart from your parents?
He is still contributing to society and had wife/kids...kids can have a relationship and guidance from their grandparents
Personally I cannot live under the same roof as my parents, but if hes comfortable doing it then so be it. He's going to own the house when they pass I bet. But I just can't imagine not spreading your wings and living at other locations and meeting new people/friends/women/etc
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
No doubt the relationship those kids will have with their extended family is a positive, but let's be real that isn't the reason he's still living at home. I think a man who has never had to experience struggle and go out on his own will not be as mature, adjusted, and wise as the man who did have to go out on his own. So from the jump, he won't have alot of the experience that makes a man, a man, to impart onto his kids while raising them.I mean what do you consider an adult? I've met MANY adults that act like children and I've met children act more grown up than adults
He is still contributing to society and had wife/kids...kids can have a relationship and guidance from their grandparents
Personally I cannot live under the same roof as my parents, but if hes comfortable doing it then so be it. He's going to own the house when they pass I bet. But I just can't imagine not spreading your wings and living at other locations and meeting new people/friends/women/etc
He is still contributing to society and had wife/kids...kids can have a relationship and guidance from their grandparents
Personally I cannot live under the same roof as my parents, but if hes comfortable doing it then so be it. He's going to own the house when they pass I bet. But I just can't imagine not spreading your wings and living at other locations and meeting new people/friends/women/etc
Valuable life experience comes from struggle, trying new things, and figuring it out on your own, and I believe these life lessons can allow you to raise your children from a much better point of view than a dude who never left his childhood bedroom.
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Sounds like you're envious OP. If he pays bills I don't see the issue.
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩
Move out of liberal hell holes that charge so much for so little. Expose your kids to less crime, more nature, and less pollution.Whatβs the alternative? From what OP is saying, his cousin shouldnβt be living at home. But for someone whoβs working a dead end job with a rent of $2000+ (norm in NYC), what do you suggest they do? inb4 get a better job.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
That literally sounds like something I wouldn't wish on anyone.I don't know the ins and outs of the arrangements with his parents but im 99% sure they pay some sort of rent and contribute towards the grocery bill.
He can def provide for himself, and could move out and afford his own place, but he would have ALOT less money to use on his hobbies and for savings. He is into cars and spends alot of money buying and fixing up old cars. I do think his priorities are kinda messed up and he is stuck in a child like state of being. And like I said in the OP, I don't think any American woman would have put up with that situation, be literally found his wife from a 3rd world country and brought her over here. I kinda feel like my cousins never experienced any life situations that forced them to "grow up" so they are just stuck in a loop living in the same house for over 30 years now with mom and dad.
He can def provide for himself, and could move out and afford his own place, but he would have ALOT less money to use on his hobbies and for savings. He is into cars and spends alot of money buying and fixing up old cars. I do think his priorities are kinda messed up and he is stuck in a child like state of being. And like I said in the OP, I don't think any American woman would have put up with that situation, be literally found his wife from a 3rd world country and brought her over here. I kinda feel like my cousins never experienced any life situations that forced them to "grow up" so they are just stuck in a loop living in the same house for over 30 years now with mom and dad.
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Go run some numbers through a loan calculator with the current interest rate and report back.
This was also common in the early 1900s based off of the census when I was looking into ancestry.
The current system enslaves each generation with the chains of debt, usury, and perpetual inflation.
This was also common in the early 1900s based off of the census when I was looking into ancestry.
The current system enslaves each generation with the chains of debt, usury, and perpetual inflation.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
They have a huge house, but they rent out 3 apartments to strangers and for the main part of the house they have 3 bedrooms, plus an extra bedroom in the basement.Mirin parents' bedroom count.
Mom and dad live in one bedroom
34 year old son and wife/kids live in one bedroom
31 year old son lives in basement apartment ( his baby mother and kid had left him recently so now he's got bedroom to himself )
30 year old sister lives in bedroom next right next to her 34 year old brother. She should be moving out soon though cause she is getting married.
While they have a big house, it is no where near comfortable for the amount of people living in it and sharing the same spaces.
I honestly don't know how they all do it without getting fed up. Their parents probably like the company and access to grandkids, but idk how my cousins don't feel the need to branch out.
is saving money on rent really worth the massive QOL setbacks?
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Originally Posted By TomPaine⏩
I would but my job pays well compared to non-liberal states.Move out of liberal hell holes that charge so much for so little. Expose your kids to less crime, more nature, and less pollution.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
Well that's also a preference. Whites are notorious for wanting to be alone and moving away, not being with family, viewing family as someone to despise and only see at holidays. Yet a large majority of other cultures have much smaller living spaces with large families, extended families, and are constantly together. Italians have their grandparents live with them. Mexicans do this as well and are very family oriented.They have a huge house, but they rent out 3 apartments to strangers and for the main part of the house they have 3 bedrooms, plus an extra bedroom in the basement.
Mom and dad live in one bedroom
34 year old son and wife/kids live in one bedroom
31 year old son lives in basement apartment ( his baby mother and kid had left him recently so now he's got bedroom to himself )
30 year old sister lives in bedroom next right next to her 34 year old brother. She should be moving out soon though cause she is getting married.
While they have a big house, it is no where near comfortable for the amount of people living in it and sharing the same spaces.
I honestly don't know how they all do it without getting fed up. Their parents probably like the company and access to grandkids, but idk how my cousins don't feel the need to branch out.
is saving money on rent really worth the massive QOL setbacks?
Mom and dad live in one bedroom
34 year old son and wife/kids live in one bedroom
31 year old son lives in basement apartment ( his baby mother and kid had left him recently so now he's got bedroom to himself )
30 year old sister lives in bedroom next right next to her 34 year old brother. She should be moving out soon though cause she is getting married.
While they have a big house, it is no where near comfortable for the amount of people living in it and sharing the same spaces.
I honestly don't know how they all do it without getting fed up. Their parents probably like the company and access to grandkids, but idk how my cousins don't feel the need to branch out.
is saving money on rent really worth the massive QOL setbacks?
What I do find hilarious is how white people despise their parents so much, but then constantly talk about being lonely. So it depends on your family dynamic. I want to have a family that all lives on the same street or even the same property/compound. A lot of my family talk about that idea because my grandfather always said that was his dream too.
So if it is working for them in this dynamic, it is fine. Not everyone despises being with family or around their family.
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Ideally you move out of your parent's house when you move in with your significant other. Ideally this happens in your early 20's. Generally speaking your smv is pretty much 0 at home. Once you hit 25+ you will have to move out on your own for a chance at a normal life, meaning you live with a partner.
If a partner is simply out of reach due to being sub5 or whatever, honestly it's more weird to live on your own in the same city as your parents. Like what's the point exactly? You do have to strategize long term, and for some living on your own is best but for others they are better off living with their parents. There is no one-size-fits-all solution in the 21st century. Also you should take your parents' wishes into consideration too but at a lower priority. Some of them might get lonely seeing their kids leave especially single moms.
If a partner is simply out of reach due to being sub5 or whatever, honestly it's more weird to live on your own in the same city as your parents. Like what's the point exactly? You do have to strategize long term, and for some living on your own is best but for others they are better off living with their parents. There is no one-size-fits-all solution in the 21st century. Also you should take your parents' wishes into consideration too but at a lower priority. Some of them might get lonely seeing their kids leave especially single moms.
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
Then how are there people who are able to move out in their 20s?Go run some numbers through a loan calculator with the current interest rate and report back.
This was also common in the early 1900s based off of the census when I was looking into ancestry.
The current system enslaves each generation with the chains of debt, usury, and perpetual inflation.
This was also common in the early 1900s based off of the census when I was looking into ancestry.
The current system enslaves each generation with the chains of debt, usury, and perpetual inflation.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Sounds like you're trying to justify still living with my mommy.Well that's also a preference. Whites are notorious for wanting to be alone and moving away, not being with family, viewing family as someone to despise and only see at holidays. Yet a large majority of other cultures have much smaller living spaces with large families, extended families, and are constantly together. Italians have their grandparents live with them. Mexicans do this as well and are very family oriented.
What I do find hilarious is how white people despise their parents so much, but then constantly talk about being lonely. So it depends on your family dynamic. I want to have a family that all lives on the same street or even the same property/compound. A lot of my family talk about that idea because my grandfather always said that was his dream too.
So if it is working for them in this dynamic, it is fine. Not everyone despises being with family or around their family.
What I do find hilarious is how white people despise their parents so much, but then constantly talk about being lonely. So it depends on your family dynamic. I want to have a family that all lives on the same street or even the same property/compound. A lot of my family talk about that idea because my grandfather always said that was his dream too.
So if it is working for them in this dynamic, it is fine. Not everyone despises being with family or around their family.
Hell, even in the Animal Kingdom, they all leave the nest.
A mother cat will raise her kittens for a certain amount of time, and then will stop caring for them.
****s sake, who wants to live in a crowded ass house with their parents, grandparents, and siblings? Waiting for the bathroom, not being able to bring a woman over, not having any kind of independence?
Why do you think every "man" cringes when his wife says, "Babe, my parents are coming over Sunday?"
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Where I live a 1 bedroom apartment goes for $3,000 a month, and that's not in the best neighborhood.Sounds like you're trying to justify still living with my mommy.
Hell, even in the Animal Kingdom, they all leave the nest.
A mother cat will raise her kittens for a certain amount of time, and then will stop caring for them.
****s sake, who wants to live in a crowded ass house with their parents, grandparents, and siblings? Waiting for the bathroom, not being able to bring a woman over, not having any kind of independence?
Why do you think every "man" cringes when his wife says, "Babe, my parents are coming over Sunday?"
Hell, even in the Animal Kingdom, they all leave the nest.
A mother cat will raise her kittens for a certain amount of time, and then will stop caring for them.
****s sake, who wants to live in a crowded ass house with their parents, grandparents, and siblings? Waiting for the bathroom, not being able to bring a woman over, not having any kind of independence?
Why do you think every "man" cringes when his wife says, "Babe, my parents are coming over Sunday?"
Obviously the best answer is to move, but the good paying jobs are here. A lot of people live with their parents to save up for a house elsewhere or to afford the rent.
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Collectivistic culture? Many cultures all opt to live under the same roof together.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
A lot of their financial futures are forever doomed if they can't get a good job or nest egg underneath them.Then how are there people who are able to move out in their 20s?
Some got lucky right out of college and both partners have good jobs and bought a house before the covid money printer. That's what I was hoping for in college, a good partner and a good job to kickstart a good life. Neither one happened (obviously) so there were some "developmental delays" so to speak. I eventually moved away from my parents place but later than one would expect.
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩
Its all about quality of life. Who care if you make twice as much, but have a lower standard of life? 100K in some areas is super comfortable, while it is barely surviving in others. Life is not all about saying "I made X number of dollars in my life", its about actually being able to enjoy it. Past the early 20s nightlife scene, I can't see how living in the big city is preferable unless you are the top 2%.I would but my job pays well compared to non-liberal states.
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I guess it might make sense in bigger houses. Like in Greece, they add a new level to the house for each generation. So if you saw a 3 story house, it would represent grand parents on main level, parents on 2nd level, the family of the children on the 3rd level. But fuk raising an entire family in a small bedroom lmao
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Can you imagine being this worried about how another man is living his life.. a life that has zero impact on yours.. You're trying to make him come off as a loser. but bro... your the one talking about this ****.. how **** is your life that the closet branch you can grab is this one?
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
Where do you live where it's allegedly three grand a month?Where I live a 1 bedroom apartment goes for $3,000 a month, and that's not in the best neighborhood.
Obviously the best answer is to move, but the good paying jobs are here. A lot of people live with their parents to save up for a house elsewhere or to afford the rent.
Obviously the best answer is to move, but the good paying jobs are here. A lot of people live with their parents to save up for a house elsewhere or to afford the rent.
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Originally Posted By p7nk⏩
Most American whites are OBSESSED with comparison, "independence" and one upping from the boomer mentality. "BACK IN MYYY DAYYY!" or "AT YOUR AGE I (insert brag)!"Can you imagine being this worried about how another man is living his life.. a life that has zero impact on yours.. You're trying to make him come off as a loser. but bro... your the one talking about this ****.. how **** is your life that the closet branch you can grab is this one?
It's extremely weird and explains how the middle class is crumbling because everyone is in deep debt, highly propagandized to hate your family, and there is a huge sense of independence to the point of ruining your family wealth potential. The older generations despise the generations they failed to raise which creates young kids to resent the older generations, and then people are not having kids or waiting to have them way later because of financial issues and lack of community/family to help raise them like in the past.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
And those individuals who move far away? What are they? Freaks of nature? Something to be shunned?Collectivistic culture? Many cultures all opt to live under the same roof together.
I'm alsays impressed at those individuals who literally join the military at age 17, and then they became a cop at 21, and they're on their own. It's inspiring in a way, and then we have people like in the OP, who's twice the age, and never left the nest......
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