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12-06-2023, 08:39 AM
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Bungie Studios in shambles RIP SONY
One month after a major round of layoffs impacted roughly 100 Bungie employees of 1,200,those remaining at the Destiny developer say the cuts, as well as other cost-cutting measures, came alongside an apparent scramble by studio leadership to avoid a total Sony takeover.
As it currently stands, Bungie is (on paper) a fully independent subsidiary of Sony. But its board of directors has been divided since the takeover in July of 2022. Among its current members are PlayStation Studios head Hermen Hulst, Sony senior VP Eric Lempel, Bungie co-founder Jason Jones, Bungie CTO Luis Villegas, and Bungie CEO Pete Parsons. The board as a whole is split between Sony and Bungie representatives, with Parsons serving as a tiebreaker vote. But speaking to IGN under condition of anonymity, multiple current and former Bungie employees described a department meeting that took place shortly after the layoffs, in which leaders hinted that this shared power may not last forever.
Sony did not respond to IGN's request for comment on this piece. Bungie declined to comment.
Another anxiety sources discussed with us was that many of the reductions made at Bungie recently were part of a broader move toward outsourcing. Multiple individuals across various departments told us they'd heard discussions within their teams of plans to increase outsourcing both before and in the wake of the layoffs.
One team where those discussions have already become reality is in Quality Assurance [QA]. While outsourcing QA is extremely common practice industry-wide, Bungie historically has also enlisted an army of in-house, embedded QA testers working within individual teams. It's a set-up the studio has prided itself on for years now, but QA sources within the studio are now afraid that strategy is on its way out. We previously reported that Bungie's QA team saw a rash of mysterious departures in the months before the layoffs, and also noted a team-wide culture shift toward a general pool of testers consisting of both in-house and outsourced individuals. Former and current QA department members at Bungie tell us that in the last year, the team has seen increasing workloads and responsibilities, with more and more disciplinary actions taken for seemingly minor infractions. They also perceive growing hostility from team and company leadership, including a meeting in which QA was said to be referred to by leaders as "non-developers."In total, sources tell us that over 10% of Bungie's internal QA department was either fired or laid off between early October and early November, including both the reported layoffs and the departures leading up to them.
In a year that will go down in gaming history due to the sheer number of layoffs and studio closures, Bungie's situation nonetheless stands out, and not for good reasons. It's a well-known, long-standing studio that, despite historic culture problems, had managed to cultivate an increasingly positive community of fans around a beloved game while improving its own internal culture by gradual degrees. Butin the wake of an acquisition that shocked many Bungie employees we've spoken to, and which seemed out of character with the studio's independent streak, it feels to many like that's all falling apart. Beloved colleagues have been laid off, benefits are vanishing, and many feel the "more people-oriented" (as one source put it) culture of recent years is being torn to pieces by the very Bungie leaders that touted it for so long. And seemingly all so those same leaders can retain a vestige of control over a company that's already been sold away anyway.
"Folks still there are very much feeling 'us vs them' between leadership and workers," one person said. "That trust has been eroded."
Given their recent actions, the question of whether or not Sony will finally manage to swallow Bungie whole in a few months seems less and less important than the question of what Bungie's current management will do to lead the company forward today.
https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-...source=twitterAs it currently stands, Bungie is (on paper) a fully independent subsidiary of Sony. But its board of directors has been divided since the takeover in July of 2022. Among its current members are PlayStation Studios head Hermen Hulst, Sony senior VP Eric Lempel, Bungie co-founder Jason Jones, Bungie CTO Luis Villegas, and Bungie CEO Pete Parsons. The board as a whole is split between Sony and Bungie representatives, with Parsons serving as a tiebreaker vote. But speaking to IGN under condition of anonymity, multiple current and former Bungie employees described a department meeting that took place shortly after the layoffs, in which leaders hinted that this shared power may not last forever.
Sony did not respond to IGN's request for comment on this piece. Bungie declined to comment.
Another anxiety sources discussed with us was that many of the reductions made at Bungie recently were part of a broader move toward outsourcing. Multiple individuals across various departments told us they'd heard discussions within their teams of plans to increase outsourcing both before and in the wake of the layoffs.
One team where those discussions have already become reality is in Quality Assurance [QA]. While outsourcing QA is extremely common practice industry-wide, Bungie historically has also enlisted an army of in-house, embedded QA testers working within individual teams. It's a set-up the studio has prided itself on for years now, but QA sources within the studio are now afraid that strategy is on its way out. We previously reported that Bungie's QA team saw a rash of mysterious departures in the months before the layoffs, and also noted a team-wide culture shift toward a general pool of testers consisting of both in-house and outsourced individuals. Former and current QA department members at Bungie tell us that in the last year, the team has seen increasing workloads and responsibilities, with more and more disciplinary actions taken for seemingly minor infractions. They also perceive growing hostility from team and company leadership, including a meeting in which QA was said to be referred to by leaders as "non-developers."In total, sources tell us that over 10% of Bungie's internal QA department was either fired or laid off between early October and early November, including both the reported layoffs and the departures leading up to them.
In a year that will go down in gaming history due to the sheer number of layoffs and studio closures, Bungie's situation nonetheless stands out, and not for good reasons. It's a well-known, long-standing studio that, despite historic culture problems, had managed to cultivate an increasingly positive community of fans around a beloved game while improving its own internal culture by gradual degrees. Butin the wake of an acquisition that shocked many Bungie employees we've spoken to, and which seemed out of character with the studio's independent streak, it feels to many like that's all falling apart. Beloved colleagues have been laid off, benefits are vanishing, and many feel the "more people-oriented" (as one source put it) culture of recent years is being torn to pieces by the very Bungie leaders that touted it for so long. And seemingly all so those same leaders can retain a vestige of control over a company that's already been sold away anyway.
"Folks still there are very much feeling 'us vs them' between leadership and workers," one person said. "That trust has been eroded."
Given their recent actions, the question of whether or not Sony will finally manage to swallow Bungie whole in a few months seems less and less important than the question of what Bungie's current management will do to lead the company forward today.
Sony buying a gay dying game company.
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12-06-2023, 08:40 AM
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12-06-2023, 08:47 AM
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That's what you get for buying failed Xbox studios. Hope they completely take over that studio and make them work on a good shooter
12-06-2023, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Funny how they can only keep stacking L's lately, just like their fanboys.They don't make anything other than destiny content and destiny sucks so it's not really shocking
12-06-2023, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Biggest L this year is Starflop thoughFunny how they can only keep stacking L's lately, just like their fanboys.
12-06-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
I watched a hour long video last week detailing all of Destinys micro-transactions now. And it’s absurd. It’s basically pay to win.They don't make anything other than destiny content and destiny sucks so it's not really shocking
All under the guise of advertising it as a “free” game.
Some of the most crooked stuff I’d seen.
12-06-2023, 09:12 AM
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Sony probably felt pressure to do something when MS got Activision and that pressure led to stupidity. Not only does Bungie and their games suck, they are letting Bungie ruin Factions. Hope Jimo got fired for this.
12-06-2023, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
I clocked a few hundred hours on destiny 2, i could go on forever about what a chit scam game it is.I watched a hour long video last week detailing all of Destinys micro-transactions now. And it’s absurd. It’s basically pay to win.
All under the guise of advertising it as a “free” game.
Some of the most crooked stuff I’d seen.
All under the guise of advertising it as a “free” game.
Some of the most crooked stuff I’d seen.
Anyone who gives destiny or Bungie any praise obviously hasn't actually played much destiny.
12-06-2023, 09:17 AM
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Everything I hear about Bungie makes them come across as a scummy studio that doesn't really care about games but using it as a tool to extract money from players.
They seem like an MS company through and through, don't fit into the Playstation first party culture at all. Sony needs to step in and buck break them or just sell them off and be done with them.
They seem like an MS company through and through, don't fit into the Playstation first party culture at all. Sony needs to step in and buck break them or just sell them off and be done with them.
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12-06-2023, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
I never played Destiny 2, other than recently downloading it on PC just to realize the "free" game is basically nothing. Wasn't going to spend anymore money on it. But I played Destiny 1 when it first came out. And I had a ton of fun playing it, and really enjoyed the first raid, but even then there was a lot wrong with it. Like the main story was severely lacking, and they wanted you to read cards online to explain most of what was going on. lolI clocked a few hundred hours on destiny 2, i could go on forever about what a chit scam game it is.
Anyone who gives destiny or Bungie any praise obviously hasn't actually played much destiny.
Anyone who gives destiny or Bungie any praise obviously hasn't actually played much destiny.
12-06-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
If you play through destiny 1 time it's a fine game. Story is whatever but the missions are fun and it's a good Co op game.I never played Destiny 2. But I played Destiny 1 when it first came out. And I had a ton of fun playing it, and really enjoyed the first raid, but even then there was a lot wrong with it. Like the main story was severely lacking, and they wanted you to read cards online to explain most of what was going on. lol
The second you try to do end game stuff is where the endless boring grind comes in. Weekly and daily missions are a joke
Just copy and paste every week. Most people don't even bother killing the enemies in the mission and just run thru.
If you are the slowest to sprint thru the mission you will not get any kills and you will spend 10-15 minutes just sprinting to the finish line for your weekly reward.
There sso many chit aspects to what's really a good game on a good engine. Gunplay and abilities are fun. Missions and grinding are complete ass. The entire end game experience is just ass.
Treat it like a coop fps campaign mode and it's not bad.
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Except they aren't, they are a Sony company, The only Sony company doing live service, and failing miserably.Everything I hear about Bungie makes them come across as a scummy studio that doesn't really care about games but using it as a tool to extract money from players.
They seem like an MS company through and through, don't fit into the Playstation first party culture at all. Sony needs to step in and buck break them or just sell them off and be done with them.
They seem like an MS company through and through, don't fit into the Playstation first party culture at all. Sony needs to step in and buck break them or just sell them off and be done with them.
They are Sony culture, failing at multiplayer and milking their playerbase on top of it. That is 100 percent Sony culture.
12-06-2023, 10:31 AM
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This news has got to hit the ponies hard....actually looks like it already did.
This was probably always going to be a bit of a problem when the studio you buy is essentially a one trick pony. It was a good pony for a long time but as these things tend to happen they get kind of retarded in the end from smelling their own farts too much.
This was probably always going to be a bit of a problem when the studio you buy is essentially a one trick pony. It was a good pony for a long time but as these things tend to happen they get kind of retarded in the end from smelling their own farts too much.
12-06-2023, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Sony only bought them a year ago you gooftard, how can they be Sony culture when in that short time Sony has left them to operate as an independent company? Sony let them do do their thing and have been hands off but they have been bleeding money due to horrible upper management decisions. Of course by being sold there would be major stipulations that they maintain a level of profits, and due to their utter failure in doing so, management has decided to cut costs by firing hundreds of employees to avoid a Sony takeover. This was all about keeping control and their huge salaries intact.If you play through destiny 1 time it's a fine game. Story is whatever but the missions are fun and it's a good Co op game.
The second you try to do end game stuff is where the endless boring grind comes in. Weekly and daily missions are a joke
Just copy and paste every week. Most people don't even bother killing the enemies in the mission and just run thru.
If you are the slowest to sprint thru the mission you will not get any kills and you will spend 10-15 minutes just sprinting to the finish line for your weekly reward.
There sso many chit aspects to what's really a good game on a good engine. Gunplay and abilities are fun. Missions and grinding are complete ass. The entire end game experience is just ass.
Treat it like a coop fps campaign mode and it's not bad.
Except they aren't, they are a Sony company, The only Sony company doing live service, and failing miserably.
They are Sony culture, failing at multiplayer and milking their playerbase on top of it. That is 100 percent Sony culture.
The second you try to do end game stuff is where the endless boring grind comes in. Weekly and daily missions are a joke
Just copy and paste every week. Most people don't even bother killing the enemies in the mission and just run thru.
If you are the slowest to sprint thru the mission you will not get any kills and you will spend 10-15 minutes just sprinting to the finish line for your weekly reward.
There sso many chit aspects to what's really a good game on a good engine. Gunplay and abilities are fun. Missions and grinding are complete ass. The entire end game experience is just ass.
Treat it like a coop fps campaign mode and it's not bad.
Except they aren't, they are a Sony company, The only Sony company doing live service, and failing miserably.
They are Sony culture, failing at multiplayer and milking their playerbase on top of it. That is 100 percent Sony culture.
Sony must be pissed as fuk because they spent so much on them, including 1.2 billion in employee retention bonuses. At what point do you look at your multi billion dollar investment burning themselves to the ground before you step in?
We will see an actual Sony culture in the upcoming years after Sony rams their cawk up Bungie's bungholes next year and takes full control. It's time to gut management, restructure and get everyone in line with their other prestige studios.
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12-06-2023, 11:51 AM
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Sonycels:
Before - I love Jim Ryan, PLEASE SAVE GAMING!
Now - Jim Ryan was never my friend
Before - Bungie is a bigger acquisition than Activision Blizzard. RIP XCELS
Now - I never liked Bungie it was always a dumb move.
Can sonycels ever stop catching L's?
Before - I love Jim Ryan, PLEASE SAVE GAMING!
Now - Jim Ryan was never my friend
Before - Bungie is a bigger acquisition than Activision Blizzard. RIP XCELS
Now - I never liked Bungie it was always a dumb move.
Can sonycels ever stop catching L's?
Fk the Good Poster Crew (Lockdev, Pink, Kimm, Wasps, Expatriot, Mulloway, Luc1fer, Smallpeter, gwg, Super Hercules, Bonobo, maori-rap, Based Bagel, ezmac31, Goobaa, Godfrd and many more). You know who you are.
12-06-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
Please point to even just one PScel who said they loved Jim Ryan. Strong claim.Sonycels:
Before - I love Jim Ryan, PLEASE SAVE GAMING!
Now - Jim Ryan was never my friend
Before - Bungie is a bigger acquisition than Activision Blizzard. RIP XCELS
Now - I never liked Bungie it was always a dumb move.
Can sonycels ever stop catching L's?
Before - I love Jim Ryan, PLEASE SAVE GAMING!
Now - Jim Ryan was never my friend
Before - Bungie is a bigger acquisition than Activision Blizzard. RIP XCELS
Now - I never liked Bungie it was always a dumb move.
Can sonycels ever stop catching L's?
12-06-2023, 01:10 PM
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12-06-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Time to delete all your PRO Jim Ryan posts. LMFAOPlease point to even just one PScel who said they loved Jim Ryan. Strong claim.
Fk the Good Poster Crew (Lockdev, Pink, Kimm, Wasps, Expatriot, Mulloway, Luc1fer, Smallpeter, gwg, Super Hercules, Bonobo, maori-rap, Based Bagel, ezmac31, Goobaa, Godfrd and many more). You know who you are.
12-06-2023, 02:09 PM
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12-06-2023, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Lol, you're denying that you claimed Jim Ryan is saving gaming by trying to block the MS/Activision deal? Okay buddy, whatever you say.Please point to even just one post where I said I loved Jim Ryan. Strong claim.
Fk the Good Poster Crew (Lockdev, Pink, Kimm, Wasps, Expatriot, Mulloway, Luc1fer, Smallpeter, gwg, Super Hercules, Bonobo, maori-rap, Based Bagel, ezmac31, Goobaa, Godfrd and many more). You know who you are.
12-06-2023, 04:32 PM
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12-06-2023, 06:34 PM
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I've been playing Halo CE split screen with a buddy lately...and it really isn't a great game. I remember we loved it 20 years ago, but time changes.
IMO Goldeneye and Perfect Dark held up better.
IMO Goldeneye and Perfect Dark held up better.
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