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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
No you don't. You have a hunch it might be. You don't know sh*t so let's not sit here and pretend you're from the future.Wrong. Because in this hypothetical I had no clue while watching the 2020 game that it would be vacated. Just like IRL I had no clue watching USC/Texas that it would be vacated. If Michigan is in this year's title game,I will know while watching the game that it's going to be vacatedso the game is pointless. It's a whole different feeling knowing while it's going on vs finding out years down the road.
And if that hunch is enough for you to not enjoy it then just f*ck off and do something else with your life. It's not that hard. God forbid you don't watch the playoffs. You just got done saying you're a Notre Dame fan anyway so go live your life instead lmao
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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
I'm a football fan in general and I enjoy watching the sport. The college game is much more enjoyable to me than NFL as well, so it just sucks that the playoff this year has Michigan's BS hanging over it.
And I'm 90%+ sure it's going to be vacated. Again, the last time a title was vacated was 2005, and there was not even a hunch of anything happening at that point. There was no title game played where majority of people had a good hunch that the game would be vacated at the time it was played.
Entire seasons have been vacated for far less.
2004 and 2005 USC for giving Reggie Bush a car
2007 FSU for athletes cheating on tests; all football wins were vacated as well as a track national title
2006 Arkansas State for players failing to meet progress toward degree requirements
2010 Ohio State because a few players got free tattoos from a local parlor
2012 and 2013 Notre Dame because 6 players cheated on a test
2011-14 Louisiana because supposedly one assistant coach "acting alone" falsified ACT scores
Even if you buy the "rogue agent" theory on Stallions (and if you actually believe Harbaugh didn't know anything about that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you), that matches the defense that Louisiana tried to use and they got hammered as well. The Michigan case is worse than all the ones I listed: it gave them a competitive advantage on the field against teams they played this year. The NCAA is going to hammer them, it's just a question of when. Unfortunately they've been notoriously slow with these investigations in the past, but supposedly the rumor is they're expediting this one and we'll know something by April. Doesn't do much good for those of us watching the playoff though unfortunately.
And I'm 90%+ sure it's going to be vacated. Again, the last time a title was vacated was 2005, and there was not even a hunch of anything happening at that point. There was no title game played where majority of people had a good hunch that the game would be vacated at the time it was played.
Entire seasons have been vacated for far less.
2004 and 2005 USC for giving Reggie Bush a car
2007 FSU for athletes cheating on tests; all football wins were vacated as well as a track national title
2006 Arkansas State for players failing to meet progress toward degree requirements
2010 Ohio State because a few players got free tattoos from a local parlor
2012 and 2013 Notre Dame because 6 players cheated on a test
2011-14 Louisiana because supposedly one assistant coach "acting alone" falsified ACT scores
Even if you buy the "rogue agent" theory on Stallions (and if you actually believe Harbaugh didn't know anything about that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you), that matches the defense that Louisiana tried to use and they got hammered as well. The Michigan case is worse than all the ones I listed: it gave them a competitive advantage on the field against teams they played this year. The NCAA is going to hammer them, it's just a question of when. Unfortunately they've been notoriously slow with these investigations in the past, but supposedly the rumor is they're expediting this one and we'll know something by April. Doesn't do much good for those of us watching the playoff though unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
I get it but really they aren't cheating now obviously so at least you know the games in the moment are being played straight up. To me it's worse to find out the Astros were sign stealing in the World Series after they won the f*cking World Series by comparison lol.... Not that I really care too much about this either though cause champions are so short lived it barely matters to me any more.I'm a football fan in general and I enjoy watching the sport. The college game is much more enjoyable to me than NFL as well, so it just sucks that the playoff this year has Michigan's BS hanging over it.
And I'm 90%+ sure it's going to be vacated. Again, the last time a title was vacated was 2005, and there was not even a hunch of anything happening at that point. There was no title game played where majority of people had a good hunch that the game would be vacated at the time it was played.
Entire seasons have been vacated for far less.
2004 and 2005 USC for giving Reggie Bush a car
2007 FSU for athletes cheating on tests; all football wins were vacated as well as a track national title
2006 Arkansas State for players failing to meet progress toward degree requirements
2010 Ohio State because a few players got free tattoos from a local parlor
2012 and 2013 Notre Dame because 6 players cheated on a test
2011-14 Louisiana because supposedly one assistant coach "acting alone" falsified ACT scores
Even if you buy the "rogue agent" theory on Stallions (and if you actually believe Harbaugh didn't know anything about that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you), that matches the defense that Louisiana tried to use and they got hammered as well. The Michigan case is worse than all the ones I listed: it gave them a competitive advantage on the field against teams they played this year. The NCAA is going to hammer them, it's just a question of when. Unfortunately they've been notoriously slow with these investigations in the past, but supposedly the rumor is they're expediting this one and we'll know something by April. Doesn't do much good for those of us watching the playoff though unfortunately.
And I'm 90%+ sure it's going to be vacated. Again, the last time a title was vacated was 2005, and there was not even a hunch of anything happening at that point. There was no title game played where majority of people had a good hunch that the game would be vacated at the time it was played.
Entire seasons have been vacated for far less.
2004 and 2005 USC for giving Reggie Bush a car
2007 FSU for athletes cheating on tests; all football wins were vacated as well as a track national title
2006 Arkansas State for players failing to meet progress toward degree requirements
2010 Ohio State because a few players got free tattoos from a local parlor
2012 and 2013 Notre Dame because 6 players cheated on a test
2011-14 Louisiana because supposedly one assistant coach "acting alone" falsified ACT scores
Even if you buy the "rogue agent" theory on Stallions (and if you actually believe Harbaugh didn't know anything about that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you), that matches the defense that Louisiana tried to use and they got hammered as well. The Michigan case is worse than all the ones I listed: it gave them a competitive advantage on the field against teams they played this year. The NCAA is going to hammer them, it's just a question of when. Unfortunately they've been notoriously slow with these investigations in the past, but supposedly the rumor is they're expediting this one and we'll know something by April. Doesn't do much good for those of us watching the playoff though unfortunately.
If they weren't good enough to get here without the cheating they'll lose to all the better competition they have to play these next 2 games. And if they don't lose then they probably didn't need the cheating in the first place to get here and would be in this spot anyway.
I'm sticking to hoping they stomp Bama. After that I really don't care who wins between the other 3 teams for the actual championship. F*ck Bama. I would rather we give Michigan the green light to cheat substantially against Bama just to get rid of them if needed than see them win.
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12-06-2023, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
TBH, I do not see how in the world Bama beats Michigan outside of some freak accident or Michigan just not showing up. Historically, the more physical team at the line of scrimmage has won. Bama was that a decade ago and then a few years after and Georgia was that way when they won 2 straight, especially their first title. This year, Bama has been more of an improvised team put together by a running QB and needing to squeak out close wins against the likes of Auburn and South Florida.Glad Alabama got the spot. This is bigger than FSU at this point. If Michigan reaches the title game, the title game becomes meaningless because it will be vacated down the road, and we will know that while watching the game making it a bummer to watch. Alabama gives them a good game and likely wins. FSU would get blown out by 3 TDs.
People are high on the Tide because of their win against Georgia but the Dawgs were not nearly at the level they were at the past 2 years. They played close games against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina earlier in the year and that was with a healthy Bowers. Bama beat a Dawgs team without a fully healthy Bowers and now people are riding their coat tails.
Michigan is just too physical at the line of scrimmage and stocked with NFL-level talent at key positions for Bama to have a chance. The Tide needed a miracle against Auburn while Michigan won convincingly against the likes of Penn St and to an extent even Ohio St. I don't think this is a close game by any means.
Michigan wins by a pretty big margin. This is not the same Bama team from their championship days and Milroe is not Tua or Jones or Young.
Even on defense, you give up more than 70 yds per game than the Wolverines do while playing inferior competition like USF and Auburn.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Total offense? Neither of you are top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
12-06-2023, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
I cannot believe we would agree on College Football as well lol.Yeah you needed a Hail Mary to beat a 6 win Auburn team last week I would hold off on the likely wins comments for a minute. You beat a UGA team that's had a history of choking to you 9 times outta 10. Michigan isn't UGA.
Also the only common game you had with FSU was LSU and your game was a lot closer. Really don't know where Bama fans get off thinking they are going to run sh*t in this playoffs. No sh*t but you are literally the worst team in the playoffs. You already lost to Texas. Michigan and Washington have both beaten better teams. The reality is Ohio State is probably the best team out of everyone but they just drew the odd year of playing @Michigan and that tipped it to the Wolverines. If Michigan can beat OSU though Bama will not be the "likely" team to win by any stretch.
As for the win over UGA, with all respect to Georgia they've been injured all year and have had a pretty easy schedule. This really isn't the UGA team of the past two years. They're still very good, are a legitimate playoff team, and should have beaten Bama but they've looked shaky at times this year and you caught them on one of those shaky weeks.
Also the only common game you had with FSU was LSU and your game was a lot closer. Really don't know where Bama fans get off thinking they are going to run sh*t in this playoffs. No sh*t but you are literally the worst team in the playoffs. You already lost to Texas. Michigan and Washington have both beaten better teams. The reality is Ohio State is probably the best team out of everyone but they just drew the odd year of playing @Michigan and that tipped it to the Wolverines. If Michigan can beat OSU though Bama will not be the "likely" team to win by any stretch.
As for the win over UGA, with all respect to Georgia they've been injured all year and have had a pretty easy schedule. This really isn't the UGA team of the past two years. They're still very good, are a legitimate playoff team, and should have beaten Bama but they've looked shaky at times this year and you caught them on one of those shaky weeks.
I am in the same boat as you. Historically, the more physically dominant team at the line of scrimmage has won the national title. The Tide were that in their runs with Saban and Georgia had that in their 2 title wins, especially the first. This year, Georgia struggled against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina, needing come-from-behind victories to beat both teams. People are drinking the Bama Kool-Aid because of their win against a Georgia team that was a former shell of itself this year, riddled with injuries, and constantly underperforming.
Even the title game was relatively close despite Bowers being mostly injured and there being some questionable calls but we will ignore that.
The truth is that Bama is just not built to go against a physically dominant team that can pressure the QB, shut down the run, and completely shut down their offense. People say the Wolverines don't face a QB like Milroe but the backup to McCarthy is a vicious runner.
In every facet of the game that matters, Michigan is flat-out better than Bama. I will not be shocked if the Wolverines win by 4 tds and this ends up being College Football's version of Germany vs. Brazil.
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Originally Posted By BornagaininUES⏩
I won't post on the sports misc for an entire year if Bama loses. Want to take this bet since you're so sure Michigan not only wins but wins easily? Your entire take is terribleTBH, I do not see how in the world Bama beats Michigan outside of some freak accident or Michigan just not showing up. Historically, the more physical team at the line of scrimmage has won. Bama was that a decade ago and then a few years after and Georgia was that way when they won 2 straight, especially their first title. This year, Bama has been more of an improvised team put together by a running QB and needing to squeak out close wins against the likes of Auburn and South Florida.
People are high on the Tide because of their win against Georgia but the Dawgs were not nearly at the level they were at the past 2 years. They played close games against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina earlier in the year and that was with a healthy Bowers. Bama beat a Dawgs team without a fully healthy Bowers and now people are riding their coat tails.
Michigan is just too physical at the line of scrimmage and stocked with NFL-level talent at key positions for Bama to have a chance. The Tide needed a miracle against Auburn while Michigan won convincingly against the likes of Penn St and to an extent even Ohio St. I don't think this is a close game by any means.
Michigan wins by a pretty big margin. This is not the same Bama team from their championship days and Milroe is not Tua or Jones or Young.
Even on defense, you give up more than 70 yds per game than the Wolverines do while playing inferior competition like USF and Auburn.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Total offense? Neither of you are top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
People are high on the Tide because of their win against Georgia but the Dawgs were not nearly at the level they were at the past 2 years. They played close games against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina earlier in the year and that was with a healthy Bowers. Bama beat a Dawgs team without a fully healthy Bowers and now people are riding their coat tails.
Michigan is just too physical at the line of scrimmage and stocked with NFL-level talent at key positions for Bama to have a chance. The Tide needed a miracle against Auburn while Michigan won convincingly against the likes of Penn St and to an extent even Ohio St. I don't think this is a close game by any means.
Michigan wins by a pretty big margin. This is not the same Bama team from their championship days and Milroe is not Tua or Jones or Young.
Even on defense, you give up more than 70 yds per game than the Wolverines do while playing inferior competition like USF and Auburn.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Total offense? Neither of you are top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
No because misc doesn't need to lose decent posters at this point so he will not take it.I won't post on the sports misc for an entire year if Bama loses. Want to take this bet since you're so sure Michigan not only wins but wins easily? Your entire take is terrible
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Originally Posted By BornagaininUES⏩
god bless and go blueTBH, I do not see how in the world Bama beats Michigan outside of some freak accident or Michigan just not showing up. Historically, the more physical team at the line of scrimmage has won. Bama was that a decade ago and then a few years after and Georgia was that way when they won 2 straight, especially their first title. This year, Bama has been more of an improvised team put together by a running QB and needing to squeak out close wins against the likes of Auburn and South Florida.
People are high on the Tide because of their win against Georgia but the Dawgs were not nearly at the level they were at the past 2 years. They played close games against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina earlier in the year and that was with a healthy Bowers. Bama beat a Dawgs team without a fully healthy Bowers and now people are riding their coat tails.
Michigan is just too physical at the line of scrimmage and stocked with NFL-level talent at key positions for Bama to have a chance. The Tide needed a miracle against Auburn while Michigan won convincingly against the likes of Penn St and to an extent even Ohio St. I don't think this is a close game by any means.
Michigan wins by a pretty big margin. This is not the same Bama team from their championship days and Milroe is not Tua or Jones or Young.
Even on defense, you give up more than 70 yds per game than the Wolverines do while playing inferior competition like USF and Auburn.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Total offense? Neither of you are top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
People are high on the Tide because of their win against Georgia but the Dawgs were not nearly at the level they were at the past 2 years. They played close games against the likes of Auburn and South Carolina earlier in the year and that was with a healthy Bowers. Bama beat a Dawgs team without a fully healthy Bowers and now people are riding their coat tails.
Michigan is just too physical at the line of scrimmage and stocked with NFL-level talent at key positions for Bama to have a chance. The Tide needed a miracle against Auburn while Michigan won convincingly against the likes of Penn St and to an extent even Ohio St. I don't think this is a close game by any means.
Michigan wins by a pretty big margin. This is not the same Bama team from their championship days and Milroe is not Tua or Jones or Young.
Even on defense, you give up more than 70 yds per game than the Wolverines do while playing inferior competition like USF and Auburn.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Total offense? Neither of you are top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
Lol keep writing paragraphs if you want bro, but as someone else said, its pretty soft to complain it "ruins your experience" that michigan is in the playoff. No ones forcing you to watchInsult me for actually posting facts and history to back up my opinion? Strong mongoloid response. .
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
So let me get the bet straight. Bama loses and you don't post on sports misc for the whole year? That's it?I won't post on the sports misc for an entire year if Bama loses. Want to take this bet since you're so sure Michigan not only wins but wins easily? Your entire take is terrible
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Originally Posted By BornagaininUES⏩
Actually I won't post on the entire misc or any sub-section if Bama loses, since I hardly post on sports misc. My original bet was too soft. If Michigan loses you won't post on the misc or any other section for an entire year. Deal?So let me get the bet straight. Bama loses and you don't post on sports misc for the whole year? That's it?
Michigan very well might beat Alabama but it's not going to be because they had a tougher schedule.
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Extremely unpopular opinion time.
If FSU were to beat UGA I think there should be a shared champion situation between them and whoever wins the playoffs. Beating UGA was enough to gift wrap a playoff spot for Bama. Why should it not be enough to also recognize an undefeated FSU at that point as a shared champion?
I know they don't do the whole shared champion thing any more so it's not possible to actually happen but like I said unpopular opinion. I would be all for this to be real after how they got hosed.
If FSU were to beat UGA I think there should be a shared champion situation between them and whoever wins the playoffs. Beating UGA was enough to gift wrap a playoff spot for Bama. Why should it not be enough to also recognize an undefeated FSU at that point as a shared champion?
I know they don't do the whole shared champion thing any more so it's not possible to actually happen but like I said unpopular opinion. I would be all for this to be real after how they got hosed.
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That’s an unpopular opinion? If I’m FSU and I beat Georgia, I’m claiming a natty.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
And at that point, they’ll have more attention and support than whoever wins the playoffThat’s an unpopular opinion? If I’m FSU and I beat Georgia, I’m claiming a natty.
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It becomes more evident every year, but all the people who warned the changes would ruin college football appear to be right.
- there is actually less stability on college teams than in the NFL. In the pros at least players sign multi year contracts. Now plenty of players jump ship at first sign of not getting the snaps they feel they deserve. On every team there is a huge chunk that are first year players, beyond just the usual freshman aspect.
- bowl games mean a lot less now. In addition to lots of players transferring after the season and before the bowl, there are now tons of players opting out of bowl games. Even if they aren’t highly projected, and sometimes even if it’s a good/great bowl game, they’ll still sit out. All it takes is one or two players out and it completely changes the game.
- more and more rivalry games are being lost. First they were lost due to teams leaving conferences, and now they’re being lost due to conferences getting so big. For example SC doesn’t even play UGA next season. Not a huge rivalry, but still one that it sucks to lose. And there are similar examples with practically every single team in a major conference now.
- with the playoff expansion next year it means the regular season(or even conference championship games) won’t mean nearly as much. This was one of the greatest aspects of college football(particularly when coupled with the upset factor and underdogs playing spoiler each week). Now with the expansion it completely changes the impact of individual games, which will ultimately affect how players and coaches view games and the season, and how they approach things.
Sucks that such an amazing sport has gone through so many drastic changes with all of them making the game actually worse instead of better. I can’t think of another instance where a sport has been on such a bad trajectory in such a short period of time.
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- there is actually less stability on college teams than in the NFL. In the pros at least players sign multi year contracts. Now plenty of players jump ship at first sign of not getting the snaps they feel they deserve. On every team there is a huge chunk that are first year players, beyond just the usual freshman aspect.
- bowl games mean a lot less now. In addition to lots of players transferring after the season and before the bowl, there are now tons of players opting out of bowl games. Even if they aren’t highly projected, and sometimes even if it’s a good/great bowl game, they’ll still sit out. All it takes is one or two players out and it completely changes the game.
- more and more rivalry games are being lost. First they were lost due to teams leaving conferences, and now they’re being lost due to conferences getting so big. For example SC doesn’t even play UGA next season. Not a huge rivalry, but still one that it sucks to lose. And there are similar examples with practically every single team in a major conference now.
- with the playoff expansion next year it means the regular season(or even conference championship games) won’t mean nearly as much. This was one of the greatest aspects of college football(particularly when coupled with the upset factor and underdogs playing spoiler each week). Now with the expansion it completely changes the impact of individual games, which will ultimately affect how players and coaches view games and the season, and how they approach things.
Sucks that such an amazing sport has gone through so many drastic changes with all of them making the game actually worse instead of better. I can’t think of another instance where a sport has been on such a bad trajectory in such a short period of time.
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FSU is going to get obliterated by Georgia.
Roster gets weaker every day from the portal, opt-outs, injuries.
Roster gets weaker every day from the portal, opt-outs, injuries.
12-27-2023, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m⏩
See, this is a perfect example of one of the things I was referencing above. People have a chance to play for pride, their school, their teammates, and now even a chance to get extra money….but 20 fukking players choose to sit out of what is the biggest game since the Seminoles played in the national championship. Just another sign of our current culture, but no one has loyalty anymore.FSU is going to get obliterated by Georgia.
Roster gets weaker every day from the portal, opt-outs, injuries.
Roster gets weaker every day from the portal, opt-outs, injuries.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...-outs.amp.html
After star wide receiver Keon Coleman declared for the NFL draft on Wednesday, the Seminoles' depth chart looks extremely different than the one from the regular season with more than 20 players having opted out either by entering the transfer portal or to prepare for the NFL.
Coleman, Johnny Wilson and tight end Jaheim Bell, the three leading receivers for the team this season, have all opted out.
Quarterback Tate Rodemaker, who started against Florida after Jordan Travis suffered a season-ending injury, entered the transfer portal on Monday. Leading rusher Trey Benson, starting defensive linemen Jared Verse and Fabien Lovett and cornerback Akeem Dent are among the other notable players who won't be on the field against Georgia.
And Jaheim Bell played for SC last year. Left before our bowl game with Notre Dame(along with some others). He ends up at FSU, and then does the same exact thing despite it being the state he’s from AND such a huge game for the team. Sh!t is weak.
12-27-2023, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
There shouldn't be this many bowl games in the first place. Honestly they really just need to wipe away all of the bowl games that aren't the official playoffs. They were blatant money grabs from the get go. LOL at finishing your season and sitting around a month before your bowl game that doesn't mean a god damn thing.- bowl games mean a lot less now. In addition to lots of players transferring after the season and before the bowl, there are now tons of players opting out of bowl games. Even if they aren’t highly projected, and sometimes even if it’s a good/great bowl game, they’ll still sit out. All it takes is one or two players out and it completely changes the game.
Players opting out and exposing it for the scam that it is is the best thing ever.
I don't see you crying that the NFL doesn't have a consolation bracket that forces all the non-playoff teams to play more games after the season ends. Who the f*ck wants to watch that? It's the same with bowl games that mean nothing.
- more and more rivalry games are being lost. First they were lost due to teams leaving conferences, and now they’re being lost due to conferences getting so big. For example SC doesn’t even play UGA next season. Not a huge rivalry, but still one that it sucks to lose. And there are similar examples with practically every single team in a major conference now.
I know you acknowledged it's not a big rivalry, but by this logic you might as well be upset UGA loses the rivalry of playing Vanderbilt every year too now that the SEC isn't structured where the East teams all play each other.This is really a non-issue imo. As long as each school keeps 2 or 3 major rivalries there's nothing lost imo. Georgia will still play Florida and GATech every year and that's how it should be. Maybe Auburn or Tennessee are kept as a 3rd annual opponent, we'll have to see. Even if not though it's not a big deal.
- with the playoff expansion next year it means the regular season(or even conference championship games) won’t mean nearly as much. This was one of the greatest aspects of college football(particularly when coupled with the upset factor and underdogs playing spoiler each week). Now with the expansion it completely changes the impact of individual games, which will ultimately affect how players and coaches view games and the season, and how they approach things.
No this was one of the worst aspects of it. You can literally get eliminated from playing Alabama in the SEC championship game after running the table otherwise. Or worse, you go undefeated in the ACC, going out of your way to schedule a major non-conference SEC opponent in LSU for that matter, and still get left out. It's a shame it's set up this way in reality. There's at least 8-12 teams that should be playing against each other at the end every year settling it on the field.The regular season is still going to be extremely important. You look at the top 8 rankings and there's only 1 team that has two losses and that's Oregon who lost to the same f*cking team twice.
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I would be on board with your statement about the regular season meaning something if these teams didn't play 80% cupcakes every year. You look at any one of the top teams schedule and there's maybe 3 games that they could theoretically lose. The others are all lopsided in talent and only a loss happens if the favored team utterly chokes, which does happen, but is rare and not worthwhile.
If you want to make the regular season really mean something, have the contenders playing each other more frequently. F*ck the conferences and create the schedules based off of the projected rankings and then the regular season would be fun. Right now too many joke games that aren't even worth flipping on.
Michigan for example played Ohio State and Penn State. That was it. Everyone else they beat by 24 points or more, with the exception of Maryland being sneaky to be competitive. That was an exciting regular season to you? Jesus you have low standards if so.
UGA, who didn't even make the playoffs, really only played Bama, Mississippi, and Missouri. They did have a problem with sluggish starts so some of their scores are admittedly closer against much worse talent (i.e. Georgia Tech) but they were never really in danger of losing. And they actually blew out Mississippi but were talking about being matched up with quality and that one counts. Sometimes blowouts still happen with two quality teams playing so it would be hypocritical not to count it. But you got 3 good games (aka evenly matched teams) from them compared to Michigan's 2 good games.
If you want to make the regular season really mean something, have the contenders playing each other more frequently. F*ck the conferences and create the schedules based off of the projected rankings and then the regular season would be fun. Right now too many joke games that aren't even worth flipping on.
Michigan for example played Ohio State and Penn State. That was it. Everyone else they beat by 24 points or more, with the exception of Maryland being sneaky to be competitive. That was an exciting regular season to you? Jesus you have low standards if so.
UGA, who didn't even make the playoffs, really only played Bama, Mississippi, and Missouri. They did have a problem with sluggish starts so some of their scores are admittedly closer against much worse talent (i.e. Georgia Tech) but they were never really in danger of losing. And they actually blew out Mississippi but were talking about being matched up with quality and that one counts. Sometimes blowouts still happen with two quality teams playing so it would be hypocritical not to count it. But you got 3 good games (aka evenly matched teams) from them compared to Michigan's 2 good games.
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12-27-2023, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on pretty much every point I made because we’re on completely different pages.I would be on board with your statement about the regular season meaning something if these teams didn't play 80% cupcakes every year. You look at any one of the top teams schedule and there's maybe 3 games that they could theoretically lose. The others are all lopsided in talent and only a loss happens if the favored team utterly chokes, which does happen, but is rare and not worthwhile.
If you want to make the regular season really mean something, have the contenders playing each other more frequently. F*ck the conferences and create the schedules based off of the projected rankings and then the regular season would be fun. Right now too many joke games that aren't even worth flipping on.
Michigan for example played Ohio State and Penn State. That was it. Everyone else they beat by 24 points or more, with the exception of Maryland being sneaky to be competitive. That was an exciting regular season to you? Jesus you have low standards if so.
If you want to make the regular season really mean something, have the contenders playing each other more frequently. F*ck the conferences and create the schedules based off of the projected rankings and then the regular season would be fun. Right now too many joke games that aren't even worth flipping on.
Michigan for example played Ohio State and Penn State. That was it. Everyone else they beat by 24 points or more, with the exception of Maryland being sneaky to be competitive. That was an exciting regular season to you? Jesus you have low standards if so.
You obviously think college football had lots of issues and that it is getting much better now. I think it used to be far and away the best sport and now is getting worse in many ways. I guess you should just be happy that you think it’s getting better.
Edit to add to your statement
“ UGA, who didn't even make the playoffs, really only played Bama, Mississippi, and Missouri. They did have a problem with sluggish starts so some of their scores are admittedly closer against much worse talent (i.e. Georgia Tech) but they were never really in danger of losing. And they actually blew out Mississippi but were talking about being matched up with quality and that one counts. Sometimes blowouts still happen with two quality teams playing so it would be hypocritical not to count it. But you got 3 good games (aka evenly matched teams) from them compared to Michigan's 2 good games.”
Bruh…when you recruit the best players every year and bring in more from the portal it’s impossible to have a lot of evenly matched games. There are only so many elite teams available during a year and there’s no way they can all play each other(or even play more than a couple each year). Trust me I know, SC always has one of the toughest schedules in the country. Next year we play Bama, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, A&M, and clemson. If UGA wants to play that kind of schedule every year(or even tougher) then by all means write the commissioner. But point being, only two or three of those teams would be considered close to UGA, and that’s with an insanely tough schedule. You can’t give every team that type of schedule, and even if you could…again UGA is at too high of a level to play lots of teams that are in their level.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Why? Why is there no way that can happen?Bruh…when you recruit the best players every year and bring in more from the portal it’s impossible to have a lot of evenly matched games. There are only so many elite teams available during a year and there’s no way they can all play each other(or even play more than a couple each year).Trust me I know, SC always has one of the toughest schedules in the country. Next year we play Bama, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, A&M, and clemson. If UGA wants to play that kind of schedule every year(or even tougher) then by all means write the commissioner. But point being, only two or three of those teams would be considered close to UGA, and that’s with an insanely tough schedule. You can’t give every team that type of schedule, and even if you could…again UGA is at too high of a level to play lots of teams that are in their level.
Honestly it wouldn't be hard for UGA to schedule 7 or 8 teams that are quality enough and have the talent to compete with UGA. They may still be the more talented and favored team, sure. But there's a huge difference between playing a team that's an underdog but has enough talent that their odds of beating you aren't totally far fetched compared to teams that really have almost no shot unless UGA simply decides to not play football that day (and like I said that will happen on rare occurrences because these are college kids... but it's not worth watching 50+ games of cupcakes for the 1 time a major school does fall asleep and gets beat against someone who has no business beating them).
But back to UGA. If they put Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, FSU, Louisville, NC State, and Clemson on their schedule that would be a season worth watching. Why would that be hard to make happen? All of those schools are within a reasonable driving distance to UGA. It's not like I'm forcing them across the country. And honestly I think if they had 1 cross country trip even that would not be a huge burden for them to bear. You've then got enough space for another 3 games against people like Georgia Tech, Auburn, and Tennessee so they're not left out even though they don't really have the talent. Although Auburn and Tennessee I could at least argue are on the peripheral of having the talent to be a worthwhile matchup for UGA, but not this year.
I think you're missing the point in thinking UGA's opponents need to be completely equal to them. There's always going to be one team that's the best so of course that's not realistic. But there is a huge difference in UGA playing the teams I mentioned above than having them play SC (no offense), Vandy, UAB, UK, etc for what constitutes 85% of their schedule. That's ridiculous. Why not f*cking throw in a high school team for good measure? Honestly is there much difference? The disparity is so great for those opponents they might as well be playing high school teams.
Not sure why something like scheduling teams where the disparity isn't so large is so inconceivable.
It could work similarly for teams like Oregon. If they played Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Michigan, Arizona, Notre Dame, and Ohio State. Then you have your 3 or so games for the leftovers like USC, California, and Colorado so they aren't left out.
God forbid we cut out the f*cking Hawaii and Portland St. games.
Let's be real we basically pick the championship game off of rankings. Why is it such a stretch to shape the schedules based on preseason rankings? Recruiting classes have effectively signed for next year at this point. Wouldn't be hard to spin up some preseason rankings as soon as this years and declarations have been made for the NFL to know how each team is shaped for next year.
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12-28-2023, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Well, for one you have to schedule teams years in advance. Look at how hard it was for just the SEC to come up with a new schedule for each team in 2024…and that’s just the conference schedule. Now imagine doing that with every team, AND doing it based on preseason ratings. Because let’s be honest, there are lots of teams that are overrated going into the season and lots that are underrated. And we won’t know exactly until the games are played. For example you list Mizzou for your schedule…but going into the season you never would’ve picked them.Why? Why is there no way that can happen?
Honestly it wouldn't be hard for UGA to schedule 7 or 8 teams that are quality enough and have the talent to compete with UGA. They may still be the more talented and favored team, sure. But there's a huge difference between playing a team that's an underdog but has enough talent that their odds of beating you aren't totally far fetched compared to teams that really have almost no shot unless UGA simply decides to not play football that day (and like I said that will happen on rare occurrences because these are college kids... but it's not worth watching 50+ games of cupcakes for the 1 time a major school does fall asleep and gets beat against someone who has no business beating them).
But back to UGA. If they put Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, FSU, Louisville, NC State, and Clemson on their schedule that would be a season worth watching. Why would that be hard to make happen? All of those schools are within a reasonable driving distance to UGA. It's not like I'm forcing them across the country. And honestly I think if they had 1 cross country trip even that would not be a huge burden for them to bear. You've then got enough space for another 3 games against people like Georgia Tech, Auburn, and Tennessee so they're not left out even though they don't really have the talent. Although Auburn and Tennessee I could at least argue are on the peripheral of having the talent to be a worthwhile matchup for UGA, but not this year.
I think you're missing the point in thinking UGA's opponents need to be completely equal to them. There's always going to be one team that's the best so of course that's not realistic. But there is a huge difference in UGA playing the teams I mentioned above than having them play SC (no offense), Vandy, UAB, UK, etc for what constitutes 85% of their schedule. That's ridiculous. Why not f*cking throw in a high school team for good measure? Honestly is there much difference? The disparity is so great for those opponents they might as well be playing high school teams.
Not sure why something like scheduling teams where the disparity isn't so large is so inconceivable.
It could work similarly for teams like Oregon. If they played Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Michigan, Arizona, Notre Dame, and Ohio State. Then you have your 3 or so games for the leftovers like USC, California, and Colorado so they aren't left out.
God forbid we cut out the f*cking Hawaii and Portland St. games.
Let's be real we basically pick the championship game off of rankings. Why is it such a stretch to shape the schedules based on preseason rankings? Recruiting classes have effectively signed for next year at this point. Wouldn't be hard to spin up some preseason rankings as soon as this years and declarations have been made for the NFL to know how each team is shaped for next year.
Honestly it wouldn't be hard for UGA to schedule 7 or 8 teams that are quality enough and have the talent to compete with UGA. They may still be the more talented and favored team, sure. But there's a huge difference between playing a team that's an underdog but has enough talent that their odds of beating you aren't totally far fetched compared to teams that really have almost no shot unless UGA simply decides to not play football that day (and like I said that will happen on rare occurrences because these are college kids... but it's not worth watching 50+ games of cupcakes for the 1 time a major school does fall asleep and gets beat against someone who has no business beating them).
But back to UGA. If they put Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, FSU, Louisville, NC State, and Clemson on their schedule that would be a season worth watching. Why would that be hard to make happen? All of those schools are within a reasonable driving distance to UGA. It's not like I'm forcing them across the country. And honestly I think if they had 1 cross country trip even that would not be a huge burden for them to bear. You've then got enough space for another 3 games against people like Georgia Tech, Auburn, and Tennessee so they're not left out even though they don't really have the talent. Although Auburn and Tennessee I could at least argue are on the peripheral of having the talent to be a worthwhile matchup for UGA, but not this year.
I think you're missing the point in thinking UGA's opponents need to be completely equal to them. There's always going to be one team that's the best so of course that's not realistic. But there is a huge difference in UGA playing the teams I mentioned above than having them play SC (no offense), Vandy, UAB, UK, etc for what constitutes 85% of their schedule. That's ridiculous. Why not f*cking throw in a high school team for good measure? Honestly is there much difference? The disparity is so great for those opponents they might as well be playing high school teams.
Not sure why something like scheduling teams where the disparity isn't so large is so inconceivable.
It could work similarly for teams like Oregon. If they played Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Michigan, Arizona, Notre Dame, and Ohio State. Then you have your 3 or so games for the leftovers like USC, California, and Colorado so they aren't left out.
God forbid we cut out the f*cking Hawaii and Portland St. games.
Let's be real we basically pick the championship game off of rankings. Why is it such a stretch to shape the schedules based on preseason rankings? Recruiting classes have effectively signed for next year at this point. Wouldn't be hard to spin up some preseason rankings as soon as this years and declarations have been made for the NFL to know how each team is shaped for next year.
So no, it’s not possible to do it with all the great teams. And if you tried it would be all the top teams already playing each other, which just make the playoffs suck more because it would just be a bunch of rematches. But again, it isn’t really possible because it would just be the top 25 teams playing other top 25 teams every week, which isn’t possible or even realistic.
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