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post 1694749513 12-12-2023, 08:31 AM
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What was the story with Magic Johnson? Was it a conspiracy?

Magic Johnson announced he had HIV in 1991.

This is when everyone was dropping like flies from HIV. Freddy Mercury died the same year and the last pics of him he is withered away like a cancer patient.
Eazy-E died in 1995 and there is plenty of conspiracy with that one since he died like a month after finding out he had it.


Magic Johnson? literally nothing happened to this guy. He should have been dead by the mid 90s. There was hardly any treatment back then.

Did he even have HIV at all? Was it just a Hamas/CIA joint PsyOP to change the narrative on HIV, make people accept gays and usher in the next generation of slooting by showing to people "hey look HIV is no big deal its a badge of honor". He probably didnt even know he was part of a PsyOP, they probably convinced him he was doing a good thing by making HIV people more accepted instead of looked at as lepers.
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Here is a pretty basic breakdown of the difference between Magic and Freddy's cases.

Before there was an effective treatment for HIV those who were infected lived an average of 11 years before they ever showed symptoms or became sick with AIDS. That’s why the virus spread so insanely. People assumed they didn’t have it because they were still healthy. Once the HIV became AIDS and their immune systems started breaking down they only lived an average of 2 years longer.

Freddie did not get HIV in 1991 but died from AIDS in 1991. He was diagnosed with AIDS in 1987 and lived an amazing 5 years before he succumbed. Because he came down with AIDS in 1987 he likely became infected with HIV about eleven years earlier around 1976 before anyone had ever heard of AIDS. The media knew he was ill and likely by his frail appearance, suspected he had AIDS and camped outside his residence at Garden Lodge for weeks playing loud music and knocking on his doors, doing anything to try to get a reaction from someone inside to make them come outside. After Freddie announced that he had AIDS the number of reporters swelled to over 40 hanging around night and day. That’s why he delayed telling the world that he had AIDS. As Brian May said, they sort of “hounded him toward his death”. He died within 24 hours after his announcement.

Magic Johnson found out he had HIV in 1991 because of improved testing. He was tested not because of any symptoms but as routine screening. Freddie couldn’t even know for sure that he had AIDS until 1987 when he developed a kind of skin cancer called KS that many AIDS patients got in 1987. Until the late 80′s there were no accurate blood tests. (There were antibody tests that could tell whether donated blood was given from someone who had been exposed to HIV and the blood could then be destroyed. But the tests were only accurate 50% of the time in telling who was exposed to HIV versus who actually had contracted it.)

The drugs that keep HIV under complete control were not developed until 1995. But given the incubation period in which the person remains healthy that gave Magic plenty of time to be saved by the drugs. The same thing happened with Freddie’s boyfriend. He likely contracted HIV from Freddie in 1985 when they began dating but was able to take the HIV “cocktail” of drugs beginning in 1995 so he never developed AIDS and lived until 2010.
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all I know is Magic Johnson is a pretty cool nickname to have
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Well, from what I've read, Magic Johnson would tell others in private about his HIV diagnosis " There is no magic in AZT, and there is no AZT in Magic."

AZT was the first medication given to AIDS patients. It was originally designed as a chemo therapy cancer drug, but was shelved due to it being to toxic. For some reason it was pulled from the shelves and quickly approved for use for AIDS patients. Once AZT was stopped being used after a decade or so, with newer less potent toxic drugs being prescribed, AIDS became less deadly.

That's the controversial story I've read.
post 1694750393 12-12-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
Here is a pretty basic breakdown of the difference between Magic and Freddy's cases.

Before there was an effective treatment for HIV those who were infected lived an average of 11 years before they ever showed symptoms or became sick with AIDS. That’s why the virus spread so insanely. People assumed they didn’t have it because they were still healthy. Once the HIV became AIDS and their immune systems started breaking down they only lived an average of 2 years longer.

Freddie did not get HIV in 1991 but died from AIDS in 1991. He was diagnosed with AIDS in 1987 and lived an amazing 5 years before he succumbed. Because he came down with AIDS in 1987 he likely became infected with HIV about eleven years earlier around 1976 before anyone had ever heard of AIDS. The media knew he was ill and likely by his frail appearance, suspected he had AIDS and camped outside his residence at Garden Lodge for weeks playing loud music and knocking on his doors, doing anything to try to get a reaction from someone inside to make them come outside. After Freddie announced that he had AIDS the number of reporters swelled to over 40 hanging around night and day. That’s why he delayed telling the world that he had AIDS. As Brian May said, they sort of “hounded him toward his death”. He died within 24 hours after his announcement.

Magic Johnson found out he had HIV in 1991 because of improved testing. He was tested not because of any symptoms but as routine screening. Freddie couldn’t even know for sure that he had AIDS until 1987 when he developed a kind of skin cancer called KS that many AIDS patients got in 1987. Until the late 80′s there were no accurate blood tests. (There were antibody tests that could tell whether donated blood was given from someone who had been exposed to HIV and the blood could then be destroyed. But the tests were only accurate 50% of the time in telling who was exposed to HIV versus who actually had contracted it.)

The drugs that keep HIV under complete control were not developed until 1995. But given the incubation period in which the person remains healthy that gave Magic plenty of time to be saved by the drugs. The same thing happened with Freddie’s boyfriend. He likely contracted HIV from Freddie in 1985 when they began dating but was able to take the HIV “cocktail” of drugs beginning in 1995 so he never developed AIDS and lived until 2010.
This is a long explanation to say, "Freddy was a faggot and died because he fucked another dude in the ass. God doesn't like sinners so he died for his booty hole adventures."

Magic probably got treatment overseas where the FDA can't hinder progress and big pharma doesn't have as much influence. There is a cure, just not in the U.S. because business depends on keeping sick patients on meds for life.
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No conspiracy

All I know for a fact is he doesn't look like he has aged a day since then. Good genes.



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Originally Posted By proudmanlet
all I know is Magic Johnson is a pretty cool nickname to have
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
Here is a pretty basic breakdown of the difference between Magic and Freddy's cases.

Before there was an effective treatment for HIV those who were infected lived an average of 11 years before they ever showed symptoms or became sick with AIDS. That’s why the virus spread so insanely. People assumed they didn’t have it because they were still healthy. Once the HIV became AIDS and their immune systems started breaking down they only lived an average of 2 years longer.

Freddie did not get HIV in 1991 but died from AIDS in 1991. He was diagnosed with AIDS in 1987 and lived an amazing 5 years before he succumbed. Because he came down with AIDS in 1987 he likely became infected with HIV about eleven years earlier around 1976 before anyone had ever heard of AIDS. The media knew he was ill and likely by his frail appearance, suspected he had AIDS and camped outside his residence at Garden Lodge for weeks playing loud music and knocking on his doors, doing anything to try to get a reaction from someone inside to make them come outside. After Freddie announced that he had AIDS the number of reporters swelled to over 40 hanging around night and day. That’s why he delayed telling the world that he had AIDS. As Brian May said, they sort of “hounded him toward his death”. He died within 24 hours after his announcement.

Magic Johnson found out he had HIV in 1991 because of improved testing. He was tested not because of any symptoms but as routine screening. Freddie couldn’t even know for sure that he had AIDS until 1987 when he developed a kind of skin cancer called KS that many AIDS patients got in 1987. Until the late 80′s there were no accurate blood tests. (There were antibody tests that could tell whether donated blood was given from someone who had been exposed to HIV and the blood could then be destroyed. But the tests were only accurate 50% of the time in telling who was exposed to HIV versus who actually had contracted it.)

The drugs that keep HIV under complete control were not developed until 1995. But given the incubation period in which the person remains healthy that gave Magic plenty of time to be saved by the drugs. The same thing happened with Freddie’s boyfriend. He likely contracted HIV from Freddie in 1985 when they began dating but was able to take the HIV “cocktail” of drugs beginning in 1995 so he never developed AIDS and lived until 2010.
11 years sounds like bullchit to me, its a blood infection. Freddy didnt get it in the fuking 70s. The marxist idiots on wiki have an agenda to downplay the disease.
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea
Well, from what I've read, Magic Johnson would tell others in private about his HIV diagnosis " There is no magic in AZT, and there is no AZT in Magic."

AZT was the first medication given to AIDS patients. It was originally designed as a chemo therapy cancer drug, but was shelved due to it being to toxic. For some reason it was pulled from the shelves and quickly approved for use for AIDS patients. Once AZT was stopped being used after a decade or so, with newer less potent toxic drugs being prescribed, AIDS became less deadly.

That's the controversial story I've read.
I had a biology teacher in the early 2000s who was either crazy or based or both. He went on a long rant one day how AIDs was all fake and AZT was killing people. He was actually right about AZT and way ahead of the ball on that one. He also told us all why AIDs was mostly a gay disease due to transmissibility of anal sex in men for the catcher. They would fire that dude so fast today.
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Magic Johnson was the perfect guy to use for the conspiracy.

A healthy, gigantic, famous, athlete, who could show that his body isnt wasting away at all, his career with the NBA was about to be over so he could just retire and there wouldnt be any controversy over whether he should still play or not, that can come later.

Like if it was just some random average size guy like idk Michael Keaton from batman who got HIV and didnt get sick, people wouldnt care as much, he is just average, but a strong athletic guy staying strong, masculine and atheletic with his HIV, that makes a more powerful propaganda statement that people shouldnt be afraid of HIV.
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