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Originally Posted By -JR⏩
Because every evangelical christian is conservative, and the candidates that run on the R platform understand this and pander to them. These Christians are ultra pro Israel. They vote more in lockstep to Rs than blacks for for D, srs.
This is the closest to the truth, a fair few of the conservative politicians are religious nutjobs, and they think the conflict over their will usher on the end of days, and those that don't believe have a drooling mass of religious nutjobs who think this, so they have to pander to them.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
and yet no one ever even attempts to argue anything i bring up, but just say stupid shiit with no substance.



the sad reality is that only a small amount of you retards feel this way. majority of conservatives support isreal unquestioningly
The **** you type out is so egregious that only a mentally ill zionist bot or shill can say it. There's literally a thread on you on the main misc laughing at how crazy you sound.

Tell me what we need as evidence to retort the **** you say like "We need to support Israel at ALL COSTS" , "You are not an American if you don't support Israel".

Lmao okay bud, guess there were no "real Americans" before 1948.

Fkn clown.
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
The **** you type out is so egregious that only a mentally ill zionist bot or shill can say it. There's literally a thread on you on the main misc laughing at how crazy you sound.

Tell me what we need as evidence to retort the **** you say like "We need to support Israel at ALL COSTS" , "You are not an American if you don't support Israel".

Lmao okay bud, guess there were no "real Americans" before 1948.

Fkn clown.
we also didn't have the same problems we did back then moron


the point is that we need to support our allies, just like with nato.


do you forget what we have been fighting for the last 22 years? you forget what happened? it's for that reason we need to support them. or do you want those same problems to happen again?
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Originally Posted By -JR⏩
Because every evangelical christian is conservative, and the candidates that run on the R platform understand this and pander to them. These Christians are ultra pro Israel. They vote more in lockstep to Rs than blacks for for D, srs.
Mind boggling since Jews reject Jesus as the son of God.

Just blows my mind.

What significance does Israel hold when we are capable of defending and maintaining our bases in nations thataren't Israel all throughout the Middle East? Israel isn't even the "check on Muslim Powers" that people think it is, we do that on our own with our heavy presence and economic influence (something we are giving up to China) in the region.

Israel doesn't even provide any military support for our operations outside of Nose-sad intelligence, and that only matters towards nations that the Zionist lobby wants us to invade or blow up on their behalf.

It's a joke to think that Israel provides anything tangible enough to justify the nuthugging.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Mind boggling since Jews reject Jesus as the son of God.

Just blows my mind.

What significance does Israel hold when we are capable of defending and maintaining our bases in nations thataren't Israel all throughout the Middle East? Israel isn't even the "check on Muslim Powers" that people think it is, we do that on our own with our heavy presence and economic influence (something we are giving up to China) in the region.

Israel doesn't even provide any military support for our operations outside of Nose-sad intelligence, and that only matters towards nations that the Zionist lobby wants us to invade or blow up on their behalf.

It's a joke to think that Israel provides anything tangible enough to justify the nuthugging.
Honestly..it seems like they treat Arabs better than Christians there.
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I'm not nuthugging but I do support their current genocide
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
Honestly..it seems like they treat Arabs better than Christians there.
that makes no sense. arab is an ethnicity, not a religion.

this is what i mean when i say most of you have no clue what you're talking about
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I'm not nuthugging but I do support their current genocide
20k hardly makes a genocide.

6 million on the other hand does
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
Stop trying to insinuate this is a black and white issue...just because someone isn't a zionist or doesn't support Israel, doesn't mean they are antisemitic or that they support Hamas...I personally believe Israel has the right to exist however, I'm not a fan of how every politician who belongs to my side of the isle blindly supports them. Nothing against that but it's beginning to set a dangerous precedent..in that they are now trying to control people's speach (ie cancel culture)...as I stated above...there really isn't a difference between the left and right. Both act like entitled, spoiled children and obviously have no shame in expressing their hypocrisy.
This war is as black and white as you could get since WW2, Hamas wants to repeat 10/7 over and over, and not just against Jews. So anyone who tries to hold Israel back from eradicating Hamas is pro genocide by Muslims.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
that makes no sense. arab is an ethnicity, not a religion.

this is what i mean when i say most of you have no clue what you're talking about



20k hardly makes a genocide.

6 million on the other hand does
Gee thanks Captain obvious...I think you know what I'm talking about when I say Arab aka Muslim...but sure...im just an antisemitic moron who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Thanks for the education..im also shocked that it took you so long to bring up the get out of jail free card (ie bringing up the Holocaust)
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Originally Posted By jxd⏩
This war is as black and white as you could get since WW2, Hamas wants to repeat 10/7 over and over, and not just against Jews. So anyone who tries to hold Israel back from eradicating Hamas is pro genocide by Muslims.
Yeah sure chief. Whatever helps you sleep at night. If you're not a rabid pro zionist who creams their pants over Isreal then surely you must be pro genocide...Jesus...you guys are as fuking bad as these social justice warriors who want to cancel everyone because they don't agree with all their perverted views. I personally don't care if both of those fuking idiots completely whipe each other off this planet.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
we also didn't have the same problems we did back then moron


the point is that we need to support our allies, just like with nato.


do you forget what we have been fighting for the last 22 years? you forget what happened? it's for that reason we need to support them. or do you want those same problems to happen again?
Wait, so according to you we need to send billions to Israel because of these "newfound" problems? Pleas continue posting so we can continue the hysterical laughter. Why are you avoiding your call out thread on main misc?

WHY THE **** DO WE HAVE "TERRORISM" moron, because of non stop funding of Israel. You think more funding and supplying of bombs and weapons to Israel so they can continue bombing children to bits will reduce that?

Holy ****. You must've been dropped on your head multiple times as a kid.

But yeah, continue ducking the other thread.
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
Wait, so according to you we need to send billions to Israel because of these "newfound" problems? Pleas continue posting so we can continue the hysterical laughter. Why are you avoiding your call out thread on main misc?

WHY THE **** DO WE HAVE "TERRORISM" moron, because of non stop funding of Israel. You think more funding and supplying of bomb and weapons to Israel so they can continue bombing children to bits will reduce that?

Holy ****. You must've been dropped on your head multiple times as a kid.

But yeah, continue ducking the other thread.
It's funny because people like him are honestly just as fuking disgusting as those hamas savages...it's ok that 20k people died because Holocaust. It doesn't matter what you think or say because 6 million. Etc, etc, etc....to them, if you don't bend over and give complete obedience then you're pro genocide. It's never ending. If it's not the liberal trany's and their supporters, it's these whining twats and their precious little feelings. Same sh*t, different day.
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
It's funny because people like him are honestly just as fuking disgusting as those hamas savages...it's ok that 20k people died because Holocaust. It doesn't matter what you think or say because 6 million. Etc, etc, etc....to them, if you don't bend over and give complete obedience then you're pro genocide. It's never ending. If it's not the liberal trany's and their supporters, it's these whining twats and their precious little feelings. Same sh*t, different day.
The funniest part is I know many Jewish people that don't even have this crazy staunch "we must unquestionably support whatever Israel wants to to do" stance.

It's almost ALWAYS these boomer conservacucks that aren't even Jewish but have had their pea brains hi-jacked by propaganda.

If they really believe this, then they THEMSELVES should sign up to be first in line to put their own boots on the ground to die for their overlords.
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Originally Posted By jxd⏩
This war is as black and white as you could get since WW2, Hamas wants to repeat 10/7 over and over, and not just against Jews. So anyone who tries to hold Israel back from eradicating Hamas is pro genocide by Muslims.
When the Zionist ideology and policies are eradicated, then and only then will we get to see the first steps to peace. Until then, there’s going to be tit for tat.

Or the Western world economies collapse and Israel will have to figure it out without the resources of the West.
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
Honestly..it seems like they treat Arabs better than Christians there.
From what I read, it’s such a clusterfuk in terms of treatment. Arab Jews aren’t treated as badly as Arab Christians, and many Arab Jews join IDF.

Ethiopian Jews voiced out that they were given birth control or “forced sterilization” without their knowledge according to their accounts, for being the wrong type of Jew.

“Druze” in general have their own stuff going on. As I understand it, there is not monolith of Israeli opinion of how to treat people, but the current government is not a representation of the country as a whole, because it had been under consistent internal scrutiny. Like most nations, there’s some major heat between the “left” and the “right”.

I personally have no knowledge of what happened, because I don’t live there. And what happens there is likely full of grey areas, like most things. I do know that much.
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I have thought about it a lot over the last two months. All politicians are bought and paid for by AIPAC or other Israeli lobby. AIPAC goes hard at them if they even have the slightest remark that’s negative about Israel or Zionist lobby. They primary them, end their political careers.

The only person who’s immune to that is Trump. He’s teflon coated and has a large base. Man can do no wrong to his base. He’s the only person who can get us out of this mess currently. If he really is a nationalist, he should put it out there and call this Zionist bull**** for what it is. Instead he came out and said he’ll be the most pro Israel president ever and proved be a shill, just like the rest of them. This is his opportunity IMO. Are you the president of USA or Israel? Chits fukked up.
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Many of them are Christian’s

As a Bible believer I do think Israel is not saved. They go by Old Testament ignoring the new as they don’t believe that Jesus (god of Christianity) was the true messiah. They believe he is yet to come. Netanyahu is a snake with his Old Testament quotes and promise to fulfil Old Testament prophecies . Right now they haven’t found Christ. Bible predicts they will in the final days when the Antichrist (whom
Jews will think Is the messiah) betrays them and then they will turn to Christ. But they haven’t yet. And right now as s person I’m honestly displeased with the Israelis actions. It’s hard to bless them with the political zionists in charge right now.

Christian’s believe Israel is still the holy land and god blesses them when they support Israel. And many Christian’s are conservative.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
that makes no sense. arab is an ethnicity, not a religion.

this is what i mean when i say most of you have no clue what you're talking about



20k hardly makes a genocide.

6 million on the other hand does
Well maybe they can work their way up to a genocide.
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Originally Posted By IPoopStandingUp⏩
Well maybe they can work their way up to a genocide.
First, that's just another false/retarded statement by white*******.

A genocide is defined as a systematic killing of a group/ethnic population with the aim of it's eventual eradication. It's not dictated by a specific number.

The Uyghur population is being genocided by the Chinese, yet it's no where near the "muh 6 million" number, which anyone with half a brain knows that # is heavily inflated.
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Originally Posted By sam212⏩
I have thought about it a lot over the last two months. All politicians are bought and paid for by AIPAC or other Israeli lobby. AIPAC goes hard at them if they even have the slightest remark that’s negative about Israel or Zionist lobby. They primary them, end their political careers.

The only person who’s immune to that is Trump. He’s teflon coated and has a large base. Man can do no wrong to his base. He’s the only person who can get us out of this mess currently. If he really is a nationalist, he should put it out there and call this Zionist bull**** for what it is. Instead he came out and said he’ll be the most pro Israel president ever and proved be a shill, just like the rest of them. This is his opportunity IMO. Are you the president of USA or Israel? Chits fukked up.
Do you think it's an anti-semitic conspiracy to come to such conclusions?

Do you believe people should be restricted from talking about it like the Jewish lobbyist organizations want?

Why do you believe the Jewish lobby would want to restrict discussion about their business and political practices?
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I dunno. Some civilians getting killed when bombing an area where terrorists actively hide among them and they gladly shelter jihad warriors with their children and hospitals and schools.

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I dunno. Some civilians getting killed when bombing an area where terrorists actively hide among them and they gladly shelter jihad warriors with their children and hospitals and schools.

Anyway.
Yeah, I can’t believe they haven’t thought of just walking out of Gaza during this insurgency and maybe taking a flight to the Florida keys or something.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Many of them are Christian’s

As a Bible believer I do think Israel is not saved. They go by Old Testament ignoring the new as they don’t believe that Jesus (god of Christianity) was the true messiah. They believe he is yet to come. Netanyahu is a snake with his Old Testament quotes and promise to fulfil Old Testament prophecies . Right now they haven’t found Christ. Bible predicts they will in the final days when the Antichrist (whom
Jews will think Is the messiah) betrays them and then they will turn to Christ. But they haven’t yet. And right now as s person I’m honestly displeased with the Israelis actions. It’s hard to bless them with the political zionists in charge right now.

Christian’s believe Israel is still the holy land and god blesses them when they support Israel. And many Christian’s are conservative.
So American Christians love jews who bomb and shoots women and children hiding in a church ? These people may label themselves christian, but they aren't. They really worship Satan and his chosen people, the jews.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Do you think it's an anti-semitic conspiracy to come to such conclusions?

Do you believe people should be restricted from talking about it like the Jewish lobbyist organizations want?

Why do you believe the Jewish lobby would want to restrict discussion about their business and political practices?
1. Nothing antisemitic about facts. Facts are facts. Regardless of how loud they scream antisemitism.

2. I don’t give a fuk about what Israel/Zionist lobby does. I just want people to be able to talk about it. This is fukking America. I can talk about anything and anyone. No shutting down and ruining peoples lives over facts. Also, I don’t want my tax dollars to support their Zionist agenda over any of the measures that would actually help Americans, in America. Zionist lobby are literally foreign agents. They have no alliance to America or Americans. They will suck this country dry to fulfill their wet dreams.

3. The answer is obvious. They don’t want people to question or even think about the power and control they assert on this society, yet want to be the biggest victims. If people question, word spreads and more people question. This will eventually lead to a revolt. They want complete compliance and control. They will literally ruin your life if you dissented. They are ruthless. This isn’t conspiratorial, this is a fact. Anyone with their eyes open can literally palpate this during the last two months.

This is why Teflon Don is the only person who can call them out and lead a revolt. He doesn’t need their support. They can’t primary him. They can’t say anything to harm the guy. His supporters are fully entrenched and will never ditch him. It’s too bad that he’s a total shill to the zionists, and his initial response to current events was, “ I’ll be the most pro Israeli president ever”. Complete anti-American imbicile.

I’m strictly referring to Israeli/Zionist lobby here. Have many many Jewish friends and acquaintances that a perfectly great people and couldnt give two fukks about Zionist agenda.
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Originally Posted By sam212⏩
1. Nothing antisemitic about facts. Facts are facts. Regardless of how loud they scream antisemitism.

2. I don’t give a fuk about what Israel/Zionist lobby does. I just want people to be able to talk about it. This is fukking America. I can talk about anything and anyone. No shutting down and ruining peoples lives over facts. Also, I don’t want my tax dollars to support their Zionist agenda over any of the measures that would actually help Americans, in America. Zionist lobby are literally foreign agents. They have no alliance to America or Americans. They will suck this country dry to fulfill their wet dreams.

3. The answer is obvious. They don’t want people to question or even think about the power and control they assert on this society, yet want to be the biggest victims. If people question, word spreads and more people question. This will eventually lead to a revolt. They want complete compliance and control. They will literally ruin your life if you dissented. They are ruthless. This isn’t conspiratorial, this is a fact. Anyone with their eyes open can literally palpate this during the last two months.

This is why Teflon Don is the only person who can call them out and lead a revolt. He doesn’t need their support. They can’t primary him. They can’t say anything to harm the guy. His supporters are fully entrenched and will never ditch him. It’s too bad that he’s a total shill to the zionists, and his initial response to current events was, “ I’ll be the most pro Israeli president ever”. Complete anti-American imbicile.

I’m strictly referring to Israeli/Zionist lobby here. Have many many Jewish friends and acquaintances that a perfectly great people and could give two full about Zionist agenda.
You may want to look up Teflon Don's top donors, including Sheldon Adelson. Donald Trump is completely under Israel's control. Remember the Iran deal? And don't forget about Kushner's connections as well. If you want an alternative to AIPAC candidates, you'll have to look at someone like Cornel West.
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Originally Posted By genocidejoe⏩
You may want to look up Teflon Don's top donors, including Sheldon Adelson. Donald Trump is completely under Israel's control. Remember the Iran deal? And don't forget about Kushner's connections as well. If you want an alternative to AIPAC candidates, you'll have to look at someone like Cornel West.
He might be taking money. But the fact is he literally is the only person who has cult like following. Every other politician would not survive the fall out from AIPAC if they went against their narrative. Don on the other hand would have no problem. I think it would be refreshing to see someone at least have the courage to speak the truth. He has the most political leverage to do so. It’s a shame he doesn’t, but instead plays up the Zionist lobby.

Cornel west has no shot in hell to change jack in this country. He’s a good guy, but I want policy and narrative change. I’d vote for trump for the rest of my life if he speaks the truth and changes policy on this issue.
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Originally Posted By genocidejoe⏩
You may want to look up Teflon Don's top donors, including Sheldon Adelson. Donald Trump is completely under Israel's control. Remember the Iran deal? And don't forget about Kushner's connections as well. If you want an alternative to AIPAC candidates, you'll have to look at someone like Cornel West.
Originally Posted By sam212⏩
He might be taking money. But the fact is he literally is the only person who has cult like following. Every other politician would not survive the fall out from AIPAC if they went against their narrative. Don on the other hand would have no problem. I think it would be refreshing to see someone at least have the courage to speak the truth. He has the most political leverage to do so. It’s a shame he doesn’t, but instead plays up the Zionist lobby.

Cornel west has no shot in hell to change jack in this country. He’s a good guy, but I want policy and narrative change. I’d vote for trump for the rest of my life if he speaks the truth and changes policy on this issue.
you talk as if aipac money is bad money. they always support the winning candidate in almost all cases.

lol @ thinking corneyl west is a good guy or is in any way sane. do you hear his comments lately? i would vote for biden before i vote for cornel west
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i would vote for biden before i vote for cornel west
I always took you for a Biden voter to begin with. The globalist perspective is right in line with his approach.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
you talk as if aipac money is bad money. they always support the winning candidate in almost all cases.

lol @ thinking corneyl west is a good guy or is in any way sane. do you hear his comments lately? i would vote for biden before i vote for cornel west
AIPAC money is straight up anti American and treasonous. They are foreign agents. Every single one of their positions is factually anti American. They don’t care about anything but safety and prosperity of Israel and using American money/manpower to advance their agenda. They are leeches. It’s amazing that no one wants to talk about it. But it’s not surprising as they would immediately shut you down and ruin your life. They are the dirtiest of lobbyists and all is fair to them.

Their backed candidates are total shills for Zionist agenda. Let’s be honest. They win because AIPAC floods money through 3rd parties and creates smear campaigns to take the other candidates down. They do it covertly. Never bring the issue at core, which is Israel. Instead, they gaslight the voters on non issues or complete lies. Let’s not pretend that this isn’t true.

AIPAC stands for nothing other than forwarding Zionist agenda and securing money/political leverage for Israel. This much is evident by observing the candidates they have backed. They back both republicans and democrats, essentially anyone who will be a Zionist shill. They are a single issue lobby. Israel. AIPAC should be banned and their leadership should be stripped of US citizenship and sent to Israel.
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