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post 1695098213 12-19-2023, 09:58 AM
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I'd like to see a universal healthcare option, but you could retain private healthcare offered for higher quality care. We also need to make the VA and other healthcare orgs more efficient and do more to reduce the power of pharmaceutical and healthcare companies, especially monopolies and near monopolies. That type of inefficient pricing is part of the problem.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Ayup... Lets recap the past four years.

Cliffs:

- Deadly black plague of apocalyptic DOOM invades the country
- Hundreds of millions of people die everyday!
- Libs accuse Trump of not doing enough.
- Trump banned travel from Chy-Na but that was raycyst
- Trump offers vaccine but libs refuse to take it because he "rushed it out too soon!"
- Biden takes office January 2021.
- Biden MANDATES vaccine
- Libs can't get enough of that delicious Fauci Fluid then

...And suddenly anybody who refused to take "Biden's vaccine" was public enemy #1 lol

But Universal gumint run healthcare guise!
If you didn't get the vax, you should be denied medical care!!!!

I never said that!!!
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I never knew that you lived in New York, I thought you were in Hilton head south Carolina. How did SC treat you?
We're you turned away, and do you have any examples other than a once in a.lifetime pandemic.
Cancer heart disease, diabetes, obesity....
LMFAO "It didn't affect you, why should YOU care about racism!!1!!"

That's what your dumbass argument boils down to.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
No Carl.. to find out why you're up at 4:30am obsessing on some random anonymous dude's age on an internet message board. Come on son, this has only been going on for two days now, son.

Like clockwork, son.
You've asked why I'm up at 4am or 11pm like three times per week for the last three years. Maybe you should let it go, son?
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I love how everyone has a grandfather who fought in WW2, but not the crusher, his "Dad" fought in WW2......
As if I didn't hear that all the time growing up, son, but things are what they are, and you should learn to accept things you cannot change.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Also, if you're retired, why are you waking up at 0430hrs??? Incontinence?
I started a new business with an elite crusher last year. Even so, I was still getting up at no later than 4am when I was fully retired. Why does this seem bizarre to you, lazybones?
Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
LMAO no wonder you're so ****ed up. Your dad was like 65 when you were born.
Do you just pull random numbers out of your ass without doing any basic arithmetic first, son? As I've mentioned before, he was in school when the war started and went in when he was eligible and fulfilled his civic responsibility to his country (unlike your boy Trump, who had his daddy pay off doctors to shirk his civic responsibility to his country).
Originally Posted By goody1⏩
Good to know. Then we will all wait for your evidence that Bushmaster is in his 60s and you're in your 40s
Obviously my evidence is circumstantial. If you thought I had hacked the hillbilly DMV and had a copy of his license or something like that, then you're tarded, son. Let's just say that if he's truly 43, then in addition to being mentally disabled, he must also be physically disabled.
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Originally Posted By genocidejoe⏩
I'd like to see a universal healthcare option, but you could retain private healthcare offered for higher quality care. We also need to make the VA and other healthcare orgs more efficient and do more to reduce the power of pharmaceutical and healthcare companies, especially monopolies and near monopolies. That type of inefficient pricing is part of the problem.
Efficient
Socialism

Pick 1
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You've asked why I'm up at 4am or 11pm like three times per week for the last three years. Maybe you should let it go, son?
Dodge duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

What I'm asking you Carl, and what you're ignoring is WHY are you up at 4am obsessing over the age of completely anonymous strange men on the internet. You have to admit that's not very crusher like, son.
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You middle-age limp dick incels seem to still struggle with thefactthat crushers remain fertile until they are in a box 6-feet under, son.
Fact huh.. Do you have a link to some medical or scientific something to back that up, son?
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Do you just pull random numbers out of your ass without doing any basic arithmetic first, son? As I've mentioned before, he was in school when the war started and went in when he was eligible and fulfilled his civic responsibility to his country (unlike your boy Trump, who had his daddy pay off doctors to shirk his civic responsibility to his country).
Well that covers his and Trump's civic responsibility to the country. What about you Carl? I fulfilled mine, son.
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I started a new business with an elite crusher last year.
No you didn't.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
America's engagement started on December 7, 1941 in Hawaii. Google that and figure out which war it was if you're still confused, son.
Who were the commies he fought in WW2, son?
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Who were the commies he fought in WW2, son?
LOL ... classic
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
Singapore has a population under 5.5M, an extremely strong border and a conservative population governed by a "zero tolerance"government with strict laws. Comparing them to the US is something only a smooth-brained liberal would do between crying and fisting ze/self.
what has population size do with it or a 'strong border' ? (many eu has universal health care and they dont have 'strong borders)
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
what has population size do with it or a 'strong border' ? (many eu has universal health care and they dont have 'strong borders)
Oh look who came out of his hole......

What happened to that new deadly variant?
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Coronavirus subvariant JN.1 growing fast in US, already dominant in the Northeast

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/healt...n-1/index.html

Fewer people are getting the booster, and fewer people are getting Paxlovid,” an antiviral that can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death from Covid-19, said Dr. Alex Greninger, assistant director of the Clinical Virology Laboratory at the University of Washington.

“There was a lot of work to get those vaccines and get those drugs available, so it’s just extra sad when those tools aren’t being used,” he said.



Awwwwwwwww....... They're so sad that people are refusing the latest booster.
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
what has population size do with it or a 'strong border' ? (many eu has universal health care and they dont have 'strong borders)
Europe is on the verge of getting its chit pushed in by russia because they don't have any money left to fund a military after paying for free gender transition surgery

The good news is you'll still have free healthcare. The bad news is you'll have to learn a new alphabet to fill out the forms.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Dodge duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

What I'm asking you Carl, and what you're ignoring is WHY are you up at 4am obsessing over the age of completely anonymous strange men on the internet. You have to admit that's not very crusher like, son.
I'm not. You, on the other hand, keep asking the same dumb question over and over which is... obsessive. Think about, son.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Fact huh.. Do you have a link to some medical or scientific something to back that up, son?
Empirical data.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Well that covers his and Trump's civic responsibility to the country. What about you Carl? I fulfilled mine, son.
You were requested by your country to fight in a war and answered the call? I thought you said you enlisted because you had no other options upon graduating high school, but now you're saying you got drafted?

Must have been Vietnam. So did you get drafted in like 1974? That would make you... drumroll... 67-years-old
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
No you didn't.
Since you like people providing proof, where is your proof of this, son?
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It would be a nice thing to have but American can’t have nice things like that. Look at the state of the country and the health of its people
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Originally Posted By Latinowarrior3⏩
It would be a nice thing to have
why?
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Because healthcare keeps raping people with serious diseases like cancer up the ass
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the government having way too much control over someone's life

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/healt...-bn/index.html

British toddler Alfie Evans not allowed to leave country, UK court says
Judges on the UK Court of Appeal once again ruled against 23-month-old Alfie Evans’ family.

Wednesday’s ruling rejected new arguments intended to overturn a decision by the High Court on Tuesday that prevented the terminally ill toddler from leaving Britain for medical treatment, said Roger Kiska, a lawyer with Christian Legal Center and part of the legal team representing Alfie’s parents.

“We have the right to appeal to the Supreme Court and the European Court,” Kiska told CNN. “We could seek new medical evidence showing that his condition is improving.” Kiska will be discussing future steps with Alfie’s parents, Tom Evans and Kate James, who remained in Liverpool at Alfie’s hospital bedside.

Alfie, admitted to Alder Hey Hospital in December 2016, was diagnosed with a neurodegenerative disease associated with severe epilepsy and has been in a semivegetative state for more than a year. During that time, he has been kept alive by artificial ventilation in the critical care unit.

“Alfie has received the full support of Alder Hey’s medical and nursing teams since being admitted,” the specialist children’s hospital said in a statement. “Sadly he has remained unresponsive to treatment and his condition has rapidly declined.”

Based on “extensive damage” in the child’s brain, the hospital recommended to the child’s parents that active treatment be stopped.

Disagreement between the hospital and his parents resulted in a referral of Alfie’s case to the Family Division of the UK High Court for a judge to rule on whether active treatment is in Alfie’s best interests.

When the court did not rule in their favor, the parents appealed the decision, and after that appeal was lost, the case was referred to the Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, Alfie’s plight – legally and medically – has stirred the British public, and hundreds of thousands have signed petitions supporting him.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I'm not. You, on the other hand, keep asking the same dumb question over and over which is... obsessive. Think about, son.
Yeah Carl, I've only been explaining this to you for three days now, son. I want to know why you care so much about the ages of completely anonymous men on the internet, son.
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You were requested by your country to fight in a war and answered the call? I thought you said you enlisted because you had no other options upon graduating high school, but now you're saying you got drafted?
Nope.. got nothing to do with the draft, Carl Spackler. But IF fulfilling one's civic responsibility to the country is as important to you as you're pretending, then I stepped up, son..

You.. Not so much.
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Since you like people providing proof, where is your proof of this, son?
LMAO!!! Seven years of your phonyCrusherbull**** is all the proof I need, son!

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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You middle-age limp dick incels seem to still struggle with thefactthat crushers remain fertile until they are in a box 6-feet under, son.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Fact huh.. Do you have a link to some medical or scientific something to back that up, son?
Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Empirical data.
So post it up, son.

Don't be shy, Carl.. I mean surely someone with such superior soy infused vegan genetics isn't being coy now all of a sudden.. right, son?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Nope.. got nothing to do with the draft, Carl Spackler. But IF fulfilling one's civic responsibility to the country is as important to you as you're pretending, then I stepped up, son..
It's only a civic responsibility if it's during wartime when there is a draft. Damn, you're one daft hillbilly, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
It's only a civic responsibility if it's during wartime when there is a draft. Damn, you're one daft hillbilly, son.
LMFAO!!! Looks likeThe Crusheris an expert on military service now lol..

No it's not Carl.

It's stepping up to the plate and serving your country whenever. I mean.. unless a certain soy infused vegan lacks the T levels, that is. But I get it Carl.. Long walks with a 6lb rifle are hard, son.. Nobody's judging you, son...

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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Europe is on the verge of getting its chit pushed in by russia because they don't have any money left to fund a military after paying for free gender transition surgery

The good news is you'll still have free healthcare. The bad news is you'll have to learn a new alphabet to fill out the forms.
You can't seriously believe this. You think Europe is in imminent danger of being conquered by Russia?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
LMFAO!!! Looks likeThe Crusheris an expert on military service now lol..

No it's not Carl.

It's stepping up to the plate and serving your country whenever. I mean.. unless a certain soy infused vegan lacks the T levels, that is. But I get it Carl.. Long walks with a 6lb rifle are hard, son.. Nobody's judging you, son...

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No. During a draft it is the responsibility of those called to serve, to actually step up and serve.

Lol @ actually trying to suggest that enlisting during times of peace to get a GI Bill is the same as going to serve your country in a bloody war when notified that you're needed to fight. Fukk outta here, son.
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z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
No. During a draft it is the responsibility of those called to serve, to actually step up and serve.

Lol @ actually trying to suggest that enlisting during times of peace to get a GI Bill is the same as going to serve your country in a bloody war when notified that you're needed to fight. Fukk outta here, son.
Either way Carl.. You never did either one, so I have no idea why this seems so important to you now, son..

Unless you want to ride on "daddy's" coat tails to mask your own insecurities, son.

But anyway Carl.. why DO you care so much about the age of totally anonymous men on the internet, son?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Either way Carl.. You never did either one, so I have no idea why this seems so important to you now, son..

Unless you want to ride on "daddy's" coat tails to mask your own insecurities, son.

But anyway Carl.. why DO you care so much about the age of totally anonymous men on the internet, son?
You asked - I answered and tossed in the fact that Trump didn't go to war when requested to do so, and then you lost mind, trying to steal valor from actual war vets by asserting that your enlistment was just as courageous.
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Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You asked - I answered and tossed in the fact that Trump didn't go to war when requested to do so, and then you lost mind, trying to steal valor from actual war vets by asserting that your enlistment was just as courageous.
Carl.. you've bragged about your WW2 Commie killing "daddy" before, son..

Now just admit that he's the only one with any stones in the family, and that you're probably a huge disappointment to him, son. I mean what would a badass like that think about his 50yr old son obsessing over the age of anonymous men on the internet, son... Like your boi crush with the ass rot says, that's pretty SAD!
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post 1695139993 12-20-2023, 06:03 AM
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What would be a reasonable way to resolve this issue? Because clearly medicine is ridiculously expensive in the US. Lower insurance?
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post 1695140223 12-20-2023, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Carl.. you've bragged about your WW2 Commie killing "daddy" before, son..

Now just admit that he's the only one with any stones in the family, and that you're probably a huge disappointment to him, son. I mean what would a badass like that think about his 50yr old son obsessing over the age of anonymous men on the internet, son... Like your boi crush with the ass rot says, that's pretty SAD!
I've never bragged. Simply saying my dad fought in WWII when camohead asked is not bragging. You talking about running around with a 6-pound rifle is an attempt at bragging, albeit a lol one, son.
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post 1695140523 12-20-2023, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
What would be a reasonable way to resolve this issue? Because clearly medicine is ridiculously expensive in the US. Lower insurance?
Theres only one market system that has ever made things both cheaper and better, and it aint socialism Jack
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