I'm saying he's neither a scientist nor authority, he seems to like spinning things for his audience who trust what he offers.

He needs authority to have a discussion on how scientific research is conducted? By who's authority? What is your authority?

big seed oil guy.

He doesn't need anything.

You attempted an appeal you authority.

Anyone can have any discussion they please.

Everyone is free to rely on whomever they please for information. But, some folks are more critical of sources.

His "everyone is lying except me" schtick isn't all that unique

I haven't seen him state that, can you reference that please..

Also..what training and experience do you have in which you claimed?

Awwwwwwwww, that's too bad.

So you believe a common cold is dangerous for the heart?

No. I stated viral infection is the most common aetiology of myocarditis.

"Polymerase chain reaction identified adenovirus as the most common virus in the myocardium of children and adults with myocarditis and DCM. Although enteroviruses are also found in these patients, they appear to be a less common cause of myocarditis than adenovirus."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...3510970300648X

"Many viruses have been linked to myocarditis, including those that cause the common cold (adenovirus); COVID-19; hepatitis B and C; parvovirus, which causes a mild rash, usually in children (fifth disease); and herpes simplex virus."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20352539

What do you think iis the most common cause of myocarditis?

There is a good video on the previous page on how studies are manipulated and often deceiving you should watch.

"Adenovirus is primarily responsible for respiratory track symptoms associated with common cold, but on rare occasions, the virus can cause inflammatory cardiomyopathy and/or myocarditis in adults and children (Martin et al., 1994; Kühl et al., 2005a; Treacy et al., 2010)."

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...2.1030440/full

It's not new information.

But Covid is a cold virus.There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades.

So?

I had myocarditis in 2013. Long before covid and covid vaccines.

If not viral infection, what do you suggest is the most common aetiology of myocarditis?

I guess that would be in line with the "6 decades" part above then...

So colds aren't viral infections?

Source?

ngl, J.L.C is bringing the lols to this thread with his absolute cluelessness and apparent lack of awareness and understanding about just about everything he talks about.

hope he can stick around with us for longer

FFS. 3 shots..how can you feel bad for these people at this point

Akiko Iwasaki - she is distinguished Sterling professor of Immunobiology, and her LC RECOVER and Yale LISTEN study works with many MD clinical practices who are involved in her academic circles (which is where her patient flow comes from as she does not have a MD) and includes vaccine injuries.

Here she talks about it:




Yes, in the case of vaccine triggering LC it is exactly the same mechanism as an infection.

Is it much rarer than an actual infection? Yes the literature says so. No question about that.

But when you have people with the mindset as the cardiologist who worked with Iwasaki, where he didn't want to investigate LC symptomology after a vaccine in the absence of infection, you just wonder whether it is easy to underestimate something if you give it little attention.

She doesn't have a clinical practice and isn't a clinician.

She also doesn't seem to be blaming vaccines:

"Do COVID-19 vaccines trigger Long COVID or relapses in people with Long COVID, or are vaccines safe in this setting?

Whether COVID-19 vaccines exacerbate or improve Long COVID disease is something that has been reported by patient groups. A subset of Long COVID patients improve in their symptoms while others do not or get worse. We are studying the immunological changes in people with Long COVID after vaccination and seeing certain biomarkers that predict whether a person may improve or worsen from vaccines. "


https://healthenews.mcgill.ca/4-burn...akiko-iwasaki/

Imagine challenging the merits of vaccination in 2023.

vaxcels when will they learnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNsh9gc6xE

You posted something where she answers only whether vaccination should still be encouraged in LC affected people who have not been vaccinated.

Nothing about vaccines not being causative of SOME LC cases.

The video I showed you clearly states that she includes people in her LISTEN/RECOVER study who she believes are vaccine injured.


Interesting to see how the literature has evolved on vaccination after having suffered with LC though. Originally, the keynote study by Eric Topol - nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2But again, I have no idea why you would start talking about a different group of people.

science.org/content/article/rare-cases-coronavirus-vaccines-may-cause-long-covid-symptoms

You said she based this view on her clinical practice. She does not and cannot practice clinically.

But she is a principal investigator of studies that are done jointly with MDs who give her clinical data and their interpretation for Long Covid and Post-vaccination syndrome (they call it like that, not me). That is what I meant.

That is like saying all the immunologist PhDs who have no MDs cannot give you insights because they do not see patients in practice. Covid vaccines themselves are made by scientists, not MDs. Aren't they actually "better" in driving all things Covid-related forward?

I am struggling to understand why you think her input is irrelevant? This is like playing the linguist games like people who use them against you for the sake of going back and forth.

Now he begs people for money online so he can fix his heart he damaged himself with the bioweapons he so proudly boasted about taking.

I don't think her input is irrelevant. I do think people are trying to spin her ideas to demonize vaccines. A position she clearly does not support.

"Are we getting closer to understanding some of the causes of long Covid?

Long Covid is a blanket term that likely describes multiple diseases with different causes. We still don’t have the answers, but there are some hypotheses that are becoming more likely and others less likely. There’s more evidence now showing either viral proteins or viral RNA in various tissues, months after infection. The hypothesis that long Covid symptoms could be caused by the reactivation of latent viruses such as Epstein-Barr virus is also gaining momentum. The other idea is that changes can occur due to the inflammation from an acute Sars-CoV-2 infection, both at the site of infection, and in distal organs such as the brain. We have a paper that we published last year which demonstrates that even a mild Sars-CoV-2 respiratory infection can result in long term changes in the brain."

"But at the same time, we are not done with Covid, not even close. The virus is here to stay with us and that’s whywe do need to think about future booster vaccines that match with the circulating variants, as well as the potential of new variants that further evade our existing immunity.

I get that people want to move on from the pandemic, but the virus is still out there, people are getting infected, and there’s the possibility of developing long Covid. I’m still wearing masks and following preventive practices as much as possible."

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...not-even-close

Who has done that? Is it based on something I have said? I just linked two science dot org articles and a video interview of her. No outside interpretation.

She has never demonized vaccines but based on my interpretation she clearly supports that idea that some LC/complications cases have been caused by the Covid vaccine. If you do not think so, let me know.

The cardiologist who is co-principal investigator of her studies said explicitly that he avoided in the beginning looking into that based on backlash of others? If he spent all the time in the world to look into vaccine injuries will it reveal something grandiose? Extremely unlikely. But does that affect how much data there is on that hypothesis? Absolutely.

Wouldn't you agree with that? He acted on good faith so "anti-vaccine groups do not twist what he says", I understand that. But that ends up creating a culture of gaslighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkbMQF77C4


I can't embed this video

When it comes to the Rona, vaccines, drag queens, and trannies, JLC will always be there......