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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
A handful of ignorant people believe it, but it's no worse than believing that females can have a dick and shoot semen......Right now.
12-31-2023, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/A handful of ignorant people believe it, but it's no worse than believing that females can have a dick and shoot semen......
12-31-2023, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Now we've gotten to trannies. Bravo Dave. Somehow every discussion with you ends up being about trans people.A handful of ignorant people believe it, but it's no worse than believing that females can have a dick and shoot semen......
12-31-2023, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Ron DeSantis hired a known quack as his Surgeon General... who recommended vitamins and exercise in the middle of a full blown pandemic. He is responsible for thousands and thousands of needless deaths in his state. NYC was ground zero and showed the entire world how to combat the virus and DeSantis didn't learn a damn thing. He allowed his people to die because he pandered to Trump's idiotic base and played politics with the pandemic.
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01-01-2024, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
It's true, a handful oe people believed/believe the earth is/was flat.Now we've gotten to trannies. Bravo Dave. Somehow every discussion with you ends up being about trans people.
Just like a handful of people, including yourself, that a female can have a cock, balls, and a prostate, and have on advantages in female sports.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
See why I keep telling you to eat your gun? You just make up chit and then reply to what you think people said. You're mentally ill and live in your own fantasy world. There was a time when nearly everyone thought the Earth was flat. And at no point did I say trans mtf don't have advantages. But you assumed I said things I didn't say and then replied to them defensively and angrily because you're an incredibly unintelligent prick. Now do you understand, you senile boomer?It's true, a handful oe people believed/believe the earth is/was flat.
Just like a handful of people, including yourself, that a female can have a cock, balls, and a prostate, and have on advantages in female sports.
Just like a handful of people, including yourself, that a female can have a cock, balls, and a prostate, and have on advantages in female sports.
Just to reiterate, I never gave a time frame for when people thought the Earth was flat. I simply said people used to think the Earth was flat. But somehow, that triggered the pathetic excuse for a brain that you think you have and you started responding with "NUH UH IT HAS BEEN KNOWN BY THE GREEKS AND CHIT!" except I never said it wasn't. You simply cannot process basic English.
You NEED to fist yourself. Immediately.
Every single time I utterly destroy you, you leave and then come back with a stupid derailing question later after you hope everyone's forgotten how I verbally raped you. You're nothing but a little bitch, Dave.
01-01-2024, 07:05 AM
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I have my doubts that will happen, but will see. Keep the Ivermectin around and if I caught the COVID virus again I'd take it.
Was reading yesterday that Ivermectin has been found good at fighting cancer too. It helps starve the cancer in one of the pathways cancer uses to feed and grow its self.
How to Starve Cancer: ...and Then Kill It With Ferroptosis
https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Ca...s%2C676&sr=8-2
After being given a terminal diagnosis with only a few weeks to live, Jane dug up research, some decades old, in her quest to survive. Rather than aiming to cure cancer, which in many cases is unachievable, Jane's approach was to stop it growing. Remarkably her approach not only stopped it growing, it disappeared altogether. There are now clinics following her protocol, achieving remarkable successes. This book is a game-changing new dawn in the treatment of cancer.
An international publishing sensation. This page-turning inspirational read is updated with a new 'Metro Map', Jane's unique and revolutionary route map to starving cancer. A glossary and index will also be included. Written in two sections, in Part 1 Jane intertwines her remarkable life story of 'terminal cancer' to full recovery, describing how she discovered a unique cocktail of off label drugs (drugs usually prescribed for other conditions) and supplements that effectively starve the cancer stem cell, the cell left behind by conventional treatment. Treatment for the stem cell is hailed as the Holy Grail, so this book plugs the missing piece into why we do not have a cure for cancer. Lead cancer researchers at top oncology centers are now using this book as a guide and Jane has a huge following of tens of thousands on ********. Testimonials abound from happy and delighted recovered patients and from oncologists who use her methods. National press, TV and radio have already covered Jane's ground-breaking research. Much more is in the pipeline with two documentaries and a possible movie in the future. Jane won the 'Amazing Women Global' Lifetime Achievement 2019 and the New York Big Book Award 2019
Was reading yesterday that Ivermectin has been found good at fighting cancer too. It helps starve the cancer in one of the pathways cancer uses to feed and grow its self.
How to Starve Cancer: ...and Then Kill It With Ferroptosis
https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Ca...s%2C676&sr=8-2
After being given a terminal diagnosis with only a few weeks to live, Jane dug up research, some decades old, in her quest to survive. Rather than aiming to cure cancer, which in many cases is unachievable, Jane's approach was to stop it growing. Remarkably her approach not only stopped it growing, it disappeared altogether. There are now clinics following her protocol, achieving remarkable successes. This book is a game-changing new dawn in the treatment of cancer.
An international publishing sensation. This page-turning inspirational read is updated with a new 'Metro Map', Jane's unique and revolutionary route map to starving cancer. A glossary and index will also be included. Written in two sections, in Part 1 Jane intertwines her remarkable life story of 'terminal cancer' to full recovery, describing how she discovered a unique cocktail of off label drugs (drugs usually prescribed for other conditions) and supplements that effectively starve the cancer stem cell, the cell left behind by conventional treatment. Treatment for the stem cell is hailed as the Holy Grail, so this book plugs the missing piece into why we do not have a cure for cancer. Lead cancer researchers at top oncology centers are now using this book as a guide and Jane has a huge following of tens of thousands on ********. Testimonials abound from happy and delighted recovered patients and from oncologists who use her methods. National press, TV and radio have already covered Jane's ground-breaking research. Much more is in the pipeline with two documentaries and a possible movie in the future. Jane won the 'Amazing Women Global' Lifetime Achievement 2019 and the New York Big Book Award 2019
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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
There was NEVER a time, where the majority of people thought the world was flat "Doctor Wincel."See why I keep telling you to eat your gun? You just make up chit and then reply to what you think people said. You're mentally ill and live in your own fantasy world. There was a time when nearly everyone thought the Earth was flat. And at no point did I say trans mtf don't have advantages. But you assumed I said things I didn't say and then replied to them defensively and angrily because you're an incredibly unintelligent prick. Now do you understand, you senile boomer?
Just to reiterate, I never gave a time frame for when people thought the Earth was flat. I simply said people used to think the Earth was flat. But somehow, that triggered the pathetic excuse for a brain that you think you have and you started responding with "NUH UH IT HAS BEEN KNOWN BY THE GREEKS AND CHIT!" except I never said it wasn't. You simply cannot process basic English.
You NEED to fist yourself. Immediately.
Every single time I utterly destroy you, you leave and then come back with a stupid derailing question later after you hope everyone's forgotten how I verbally raped you. You're nothing but a little bitch, Dave.
Just to reiterate, I never gave a time frame for when people thought the Earth was flat. I simply said people used to think the Earth was flat. But somehow, that triggered the pathetic excuse for a brain that you think you have and you started responding with "NUH UH IT HAS BEEN KNOWN BY THE GREEKS AND CHIT!" except I never said it wasn't. You simply cannot process basic English.
You NEED to fist yourself. Immediately.
Every single time I utterly destroy you, you leave and then come back with a stupid derailing question later after you hope everyone's forgotten how I verbally raped you. You're nothing but a little bitch, Dave.
Even in ancient Greece/ancient Rome, people believed the world was round.
So tell us when, the majority of people believed the world was flat.
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Entered thread expecting the usual Branch Covidians with their backs together fighting like their lives depended on it to defend the honor of their sacred covid and it's golden vaccines.
..Leaving satisfied.
..Leaving satisfied.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Did the species begin with ancient Greece? Moron.There was NEVER a time, where the majority of people thought the world was flat "Doctor Wincel."
Even in ancient Greece/ancient Rome, people believed the world was round.
So tell us when, the majority of people believed the world was flat.
Even in ancient Greece/ancient Rome, people believed the world was round.
So tell us when, the majority of people believed the world was flat.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Imagine denying the utility of vaccination in 2023 because you think it has something to do with politics. What an idiot.Entered thread expecting the usual Branch Covidians with their backs together fighting like their lives depended on it to defend the honor of their sacred covid and it's golden vaccines.
..Leaving satisfied.
..Leaving satisfied.
01-01-2024, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
Ok... 'scuse me while I whip this out then.Imagine denying the utility of vaccination in 2023 because you think it has something to do with politics. What an idiot.

There isn’t evidence that Black Lives Matter protests have led to a noticeable increase in COVID-19 cases, despite early concerns from health officials.
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-covid19-surge
Little Evidence That Protests Spread Coronavirus in US
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...onavirus-in-us
Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#1db1440a7dac
Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases
https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...covid-19-cases
Thousands expected at March on Washington commemorations
https://apnews.com/e99f9bfcca9cb388054486fa41192194
Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds
https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/p...avirus-spread/
Did Black Lives Matter Protests Actually Reduce Covid-19’s Spread?
https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...vid19s-spread/
BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ARE HAVING A COUNTERINTUITIVE EFFECT ON COVID-19 SPREAD
https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/co...-protests-link
...https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-covid19-surge
Little Evidence That Protests Spread Coronavirus in US
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...onavirus-in-us
Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#1db1440a7dac
Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases
https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...covid-19-cases
Thousands expected at March on Washington commemorations
https://apnews.com/e99f9bfcca9cb388054486fa41192194
Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds
https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/p...avirus-spread/
Did Black Lives Matter Protests Actually Reduce Covid-19’s Spread?
https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...vid19s-spread/
BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ARE HAVING A COUNTERINTUITIVE EFFECT ON COVID-19 SPREAD
https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/co...-protests-link
No, the surge in Covid cases across the U.S. is not due to migrants or immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rants-rcna1656
Migrants Not Responsible for Latest COVID-19 Surge
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...ovid-19-surge/
South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rally-n1277567
South Dakota’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: A ‘cautionary tale’ in the age of Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/st...vid/index.html
The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents the perfect storm for a superspreader event across this region: a large gathering with no testing, no masks, and no vaccination requirements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sturgi...ent-looks-like
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Meh you're right though... It's not political. It's a "virus" that seems to pick and choose who it infects based on...... Something. I don't know what, but it's definitely not political.
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
01-01-2024, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Damn...kind of looks like it was a bit political.Ok... 'scuse me while I whip this out then.
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No, the surge in Covid cases across the U.S. is not due to migrants or immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rants-rcna1656
Migrants Not Responsible for Latest COVID-19 Surge
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...ovid-19-surge/
South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rally-n1277567
South Dakota’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: A ‘cautionary tale’ in the age of Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/st...vid/index.html
The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents the perfect storm for a superspreader event across this region: a large gathering with no testing, no masks, and no vaccination requirements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sturgi...ent-looks-like
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Meh you're right though... It's not political. It's a "virus" that seems to pick and choose who it infects based on...... Something. I don't know what, but it's definitely not political.

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No, the surge in Covid cases across the U.S. is not due to migrants or immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rants-rcna1656
Migrants Not Responsible for Latest COVID-19 Surge
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...ovid-19-surge/
South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rally-n1277567
South Dakota’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: A ‘cautionary tale’ in the age of Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/st...vid/index.html
The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents the perfect storm for a superspreader event across this region: a large gathering with no testing, no masks, and no vaccination requirements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sturgi...ent-looks-like
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Meh you're right though... It's not political. It's a "virus" that seems to pick and choose who it infects based on...... Something. I don't know what, but it's definitely not political.
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None of that has anything to do with the science of vaccination. WTF do BLM protests have to do with vaccination? Take your meds.
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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
What did the peaceful BLM protests have to do with covid - and how were they immune to it?None of that has anything to do with the science of vaccination. WTF do BLM protests have to do with vaccination? Take your meds.
Shouldn't "Science" have studied them to find out why?

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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
There was also a time when people thought the Covid injections were going to have a meaningful impact on the infection rates and spread of Covid. Hell…there are still some people who believe that.See why I keep telling you to eat your gun? You just make up chit and then reply to what you think people said. You're mentally ill and live in your own fantasy world. There was a time when nearly everyone thought the Earth was flat.
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Still have not found proof of op's claim about heart problems.
Anyone find anything about hearts?
Anyone find anything about hearts?
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Originally Posted By ComradeFidel⏩
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...20its%20lining.Which countries, dipchit?
Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they are pausing the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare cardiovascular side effects.
The Swedish health agency said it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults that had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining.
"The connection is especially clear when it comes to Moderna's vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose," the health agency said
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...t%20vaccinated.
Recommendations for vaccination against seasonal influenza and COVID-19 from 1 October 2023. The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that allpeople aged 65 or over and people in other risk groups should get vaccinated.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/health/art...20for%20Health.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...ing-cases/amp/
Germany’s vaccine advisory board on Wednesday recommended against using Moderna’s Covid-19 shot in people under 30 due to evidence suggesting a very small risk of heart inflammation, joining France and a string of other European countries restricting the vaccine as coronavirus cases across the continent soar to record levels.
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c.../booster-doses
A booster dose is recommended for all adults:
aged 65 years and over
aged 18 to 64 who have medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19
aged 18 to 64 who have a disability with significant or complex health needs
If you want the full list feel free to research for yourself
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
https://www.wionews.com/trending/cov...rts-674600/ampStill have not found proof of op's claim about heart problems.
Anyone find anything about hearts?
Anyone find anything about hearts?
Following a spike in Covid cases in several countries, including the US, UK, China, and India in recent weeks, largely due to the influx of a new strain JN.1, health experts have warned that this will increase the chances of potential heart issues for those who catch the disease.
Scientists from Japan's top research institute Riken issued the warning in a new report. They say the ACE2 receptors, which the coronavirus clings to within human cells, are 'very common' in the heart. This means many people who catch the virus may suffer from 'reduced cardiac function'.
The reason for this is still unclear.
Weird that JLC didn’t immediately respond to the article by demanding an explanation of the mechanism which would cause this, like he did in the cancer thread. I guess he only demands explanations when it’s a narrative he doesn’t like. Also pretty convenient for the people who pushed a product which we know causes heart issues to billions of people, to suddenly have a scapegoat for any increase in heart problems we see. Surely this version of the virus, which is the weakest yet, will for some reason start wrecking peoples’ hearts.
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So a reduced rate while having covid?
Reduced ejection fraction?
Or some permanent change which I can't seem to find.
I guess I need to read all of rhe articles from this institute in Japan to find the specific answer.
Reduced ejection fraction?
Or some permanent change which I can't seem to find.
I guess I need to read all of rhe articles from this institute in Japan to find the specific answer.
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01-01-2024, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Why skip this part? Right under what you copy/pasted:https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...20its%20lining.
Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they are pausing the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare cardiovascular side effects.
The Swedish health agency said it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults that had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining.
"The connection is especially clear when it comes to Moderna's vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose," the health agency said
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...t%20vaccinated.
Recommendations for vaccination against seasonal influenza and COVID-19 from 1 October 2023. The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that allpeople aged 65 or over and people in other risk groups should get vaccinated.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/health/art...20for%20Health.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...ing-cases/amp/
Germany’s vaccine advisory board on Wednesday recommended against using Moderna’s Covid-19 shot in people under 30 due to evidence suggesting a very small risk of heart inflammation, joining France and a string of other European countries restricting the vaccine as coronavirus cases across the continent soar to record levels.
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c.../booster-doses
A booster dose is recommended for all adults:
aged 65 years and over
aged 18 to 64 who have medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19
aged 18 to 64 who have a disability with significant or complex health needs
If you want the full list feel free to research for yourself
Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they are pausing the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare cardiovascular side effects.
The Swedish health agency said it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults that had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining.
"The connection is especially clear when it comes to Moderna's vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose," the health agency said
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...t%20vaccinated.
Recommendations for vaccination against seasonal influenza and COVID-19 from 1 October 2023. The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that allpeople aged 65 or over and people in other risk groups should get vaccinated.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/health/art...20for%20Health.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...ing-cases/amp/
Germany’s vaccine advisory board on Wednesday recommended against using Moderna’s Covid-19 shot in people under 30 due to evidence suggesting a very small risk of heart inflammation, joining France and a string of other European countries restricting the vaccine as coronavirus cases across the continent soar to record levels.
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/c.../booster-doses
A booster dose is recommended for all adults:
aged 65 years and over
aged 18 to 64 who have medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19
aged 18 to 64 who have a disability with significant or complex health needs
If you want the full list feel free to research for yourself
Australia
You can also consider a COVID-19 booster dose for yourself or someone you care for if you have spoken with your healthcare provider and are:
an adult aged 18 to 64 years without risk factors for severe COVID-19
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19 illness
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has a disability with significant or complex health needs
All vaccines approved for use in Australia continue to give strong protection against serious illness from COVID-19.
France:
Recommendations
HAS recommends vaccinating against Covid-19 in the fall of 2023 those most at risk of a serious form of the disease, in particular:
People aged 65 and over;
Infants from 6 months, children, adolescents and adults with comorbidities having a higher risk of severe form of the disease;
Immunocompromised people;
People with any other comorbidity, taking into account the individual medical situation, as part of a medical decision shared with the healthcare team;
People living in close proximity to or in regular contact with immunocompromised or vulnerable people, including professionals in the health and medico-social sectors;
For reasons of mobilization and logistics, the HAS recommends coupling this vaccination campaign with that of the flu, and considering that the start date of the campaign against Co-vid-19 is determined by the start date of vaccination against seasonal flu;
It sure looks like vaccines are still available
01-01-2024, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Probably because the vascular and cardiac effects of infection aren't exactly new information. Well, at least not to the those outside the let it rip crewhttps://www.wionews.com/trending/cov...rts-674600/amp
Following a spike in Covid cases in several countries, including the US, UK, China, and India in recent weeks, largely due to the influx of a new strain JN.1, health experts have warned that this will increase the chances of potential heart issues for those who catch the disease.
Scientists from Japan's top research institute Riken issued the warning in a new report. They say the ACE2 receptors, which the coronavirus clings to within human cells, are 'very common' in the heart. This means many people who catch the virus may suffer from 'reduced cardiac function'.
The reason for this is still unclear.
Weird that JLC didn’t immediately respond to the article by demanding an explanation of the mechanism which would cause this, like he did in the cancer thread. I guess he only demands explanations when it’s a narrative he doesn’t like. Also pretty convenient for the people who pushed a product which we know causes heart issues to billions of people, to suddenly have a scapegoat for any increase in heart problems we see. Surely this version of the virus, which is the weakest yet, will for some reason start wrecking peoples’ hearts.
Following a spike in Covid cases in several countries, including the US, UK, China, and India in recent weeks, largely due to the influx of a new strain JN.1, health experts have warned that this will increase the chances of potential heart issues for those who catch the disease.
Scientists from Japan's top research institute Riken issued the warning in a new report. They say the ACE2 receptors, which the coronavirus clings to within human cells, are 'very common' in the heart. This means many people who catch the virus may suffer from 'reduced cardiac function'.
The reason for this is still unclear.
Weird that JLC didn’t immediately respond to the article by demanding an explanation of the mechanism which would cause this, like he did in the cancer thread. I guess he only demands explanations when it’s a narrative he doesn’t like. Also pretty convenient for the people who pushed a product which we know causes heart issues to billions of people, to suddenly have a scapegoat for any increase in heart problems we see. Surely this version of the virus, which is the weakest yet, will for some reason start wrecking peoples’ hearts.

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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The research team first created heart tissue using induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. When a large amount of the virus was made to infect the tissue,cardiac function declined and did not recover.When 10% of the previous amount infected the tissue, a certain level of cardiac function remained, but the infection persisted for four weeks. Researchers say it’s possible that some patients won’t develop heart failure even if the infection persists.So a reduced rate while having covid?
Reduced ejection fraction?
Or some permanent change which I can't seem to find.
I guess I need to read all of rhe articles from this institute in Japan to find the specific answer.
Reduced ejection fraction?
Or some permanent change which I can't seem to find.
I guess I need to read all of rhe articles from this institute in Japan to find the specific answer.
Sounds like it would never recover, which makes sense given that the heart doesn’t really repair itself.
Also:
"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Since the spike of the virus seems to significantly affect(target?) those receptors I wonder what that means for the spike that the injections instruct the body to create…..
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I never said they’re unavailable. All the stuff you posted just confirms what I said. They don’t recommend them for the vast majority of people. Thanks.Why skip this part? Right under what you copy/pasted:
Australia
You can also consider a COVID-19 booster dose for yourself or someone you care for if you have spoken with your healthcare provider and are:
an adult aged 18 to 64 years without risk factors for severe COVID-19
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19 illness
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has a disability with significant or complex health needs
All vaccines approved for use in Australia continue to give strong protection against serious illness from COVID-19.
France:
Recommendations
HAS recommends vaccinating against Covid-19 in the fall of 2023 those most at risk of a serious form of the disease, in particular:
People aged 65 and over;
Infants from 6 months, children, adolescents and adults with comorbidities having a higher risk of severe form of the disease;
Immunocompromised people;
People with any other comorbidity, taking into account the individual medical situation, as part of a medical decision shared with the healthcare team;
People living in close proximity to or in regular contact with immunocompromised or vulnerable people, including professionals in the health and medico-social sectors;
For reasons of mobilization and logistics, the HAS recommends coupling this vaccination campaign with that of the flu, and considering that the start date of the campaign against Co-vid-19 is determined by the start date of vaccination against seasonal flu;
It sure looks like vaccines are still available
Australia
You can also consider a COVID-19 booster dose for yourself or someone you care for if you have spoken with your healthcare provider and are:
an adult aged 18 to 64 years without risk factors for severe COVID-19
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has medical comorbidities that increase their risk of severe COVID-19 illness
a child aged 5 to 17 years who has a disability with significant or complex health needs
All vaccines approved for use in Australia continue to give strong protection against serious illness from COVID-19.
France:
Recommendations
HAS recommends vaccinating against Covid-19 in the fall of 2023 those most at risk of a serious form of the disease, in particular:
People aged 65 and over;
Infants from 6 months, children, adolescents and adults with comorbidities having a higher risk of severe form of the disease;
Immunocompromised people;
People with any other comorbidity, taking into account the individual medical situation, as part of a medical decision shared with the healthcare team;
People living in close proximity to or in regular contact with immunocompromised or vulnerable people, including professionals in the health and medico-social sectors;
For reasons of mobilization and logistics, the HAS recommends coupling this vaccination campaign with that of the flu, and considering that the start date of the campaign against Co-vid-19 is determined by the start date of vaccination against seasonal flu;
It sure looks like vaccines are still available
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Where's that quote from?The research team first created heart tissue using induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. When a large amount of the virus was made to infect the tissue,cardiac function declined and did not recover.When 10% of the previous amount infected the tissue, a certain level of cardiac function remained, but the infection persisted for four weeks. Researchers say it’s possible that some patients won’t develop heart failure even if the infection persists.
Sounds like it would never recover, which makes sense given that the heart doesn’t really repair itself.
Also:
"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Since the spike of the virus seems to significantly affect(target?) those receptors I wonder what that means for the spike that the injections instruct the body to create…..
Sounds like it would never recover, which makes sense given that the heart doesn’t really repair itself.
Also:
"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Since the spike of the virus seems to significantly affect(target?) those receptors I wonder what that means for the spike that the injections instruct the body to create…..
I love how y'all insist infection and vaccine spike are the same, but that the virus is NBD, while the vaccines are bad and dangerous, very bad and very dangerous.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Was going to post the link, but since you just constantly troll, post strawmen, and have zero desire for honest discussion I’ll let you go find it yourself.Where's that quote from?
I love how y'all insist infection and vaccine spike are the same, but that the virus is NBD, while the vaccines are bad and dangerous, very bad and very dangerous.

I love how y'all insist infection and vaccine spike are the same, but that the virus is NBD, while the vaccines are bad and dangerous, very bad and very dangerous.

Good luck with your Covid injection 2024 goals!
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Covid 1.0 left heart damage(real) to my family member so the real question is how does getting covid 10.0 compare to it. We must weigh the risks of damage from shot 8.0, to covid 10.0 and consider which is more damaging with a shot half life of 2 months.The research team first created heart tissue using induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. When a large amount of the virus was made to infect the tissue,cardiac function declined and did not recover.When 10% of the previous amount infected the tissue, a certain level of cardiac function remained, but the infection persisted for four weeks. Researchers say it’s possible that some patients won’t develop heart failure even if the infection persists.
Sounds like it would never recover, which makes sense given that the heart doesn’t really repair itself.
Also:
"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Since the spike of the virus seems to significantly affect(target?) those receptors I wonder what that means for the spike that the injections instruct the body to create…..
Sounds like it would never recover, which makes sense given that the heart doesn’t really repair itself.
Also:
"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Since the spike of the virus seems to significantly affect(target?) those receptors I wonder what that means for the spike that the injections instruct the body to create…..
Hopefully this.makes sense.
Covid damage vs shot damage.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
They weren't. And people shouldn't have gathered. You should be intelligent enough to distinguish between political and scientific messaging. But alas! You aren't.What did the peaceful BLM protests have to do with covid - and how were they immune to it?
Shouldn't "Science" have studied them to find out why?
Shouldn't "Science" have studied them to find out why?

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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
They did and do, retard.There was also a time when people thought the Covid injections were going to have a meaningful impact on the infection rates and spread of Covid. Hell…there are still some people who believe that.
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Just to reiterate for jtaylor and others. Pausing Moderna because it is riskier than Pfizer does not mean it is high risk nor does it mean mRNA vaccines in general are unsafe. It was just shown Pfizer was safer so everyone switched to that. Glad we cleared it up, retards.
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