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post 1696020333 01-07-2024, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Kinda yeah

"did not differ significantly after receipt of COVID-19 vaccines (18·2 cases [10·9–30·3] per million doses, high certainty) compared with non-COVID-19 vaccines (56·0 [10·7–293·7"

You have to compute the contrast, or at least should, to draw valid inference.

It's might be different in analysis of data and risk with unsupervised approaches. But in this this case, it's necessary to examine the contrast.

Not including it in your bolding doesn't make it go away
Do you understand that 18.2 is more than 1.3?
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Originally Posted By NextPound
Glenn beck. JFLOL. Enjoy your propaganda. I have voted R in every election. There is a difference between being actually conservative and just a brainwashed dummy.
ahhahahah

Np: where are all the dead people, when’s it gonna happen????
5: here’s a couple examples
Np: enjoy your propaganda


It’s obvious, you have no intention of even looking into

I wouldn’t either, if I was vaxxed
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post 1696020433 01-07-2024, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
What stories..?
By pointing out your post history?

Just lol.
Who pays me to post here? Why?

Who pays CT propagators to post here? Why?



Just lol
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Do you understand that 18.2 is more than 1.3?
Why do you ignore the CI's and the direct contrast? Do you think it's valid to ignore CI's and avoid calculating contrasts? Who does that and gets it published (outside of substack)?

(This is gonna go the way of the regression discussion).
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Originally Posted By NextPound
Glenn beck. JFLOL. Enjoy your propaganda. I have voted R in every election. There is a difference between being actually conservative and just a brainwashed dummy.

Since you edited your post this is from the lancet article.. Did you actually read it?

“The causes of these excess deaths are likely to be multiple and could include the direct effects of Covid-19 infection,1 acute pressures on NHS acute services resulting in poorer outcomes from episodes of acute illness,4 and disruption to chronic disease detection and management.5 Further analysis by cause and by age- and sex-group may help quantify the relative contributions of these causes.“
Oh, I see

Now you’re willing to accept there are excess deaths
Lmao
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Originally Posted By NextPound
There are excess deaths. People died from covid. The world is getting fatter. Drug and alcohol use were much higher during the lockdowns. This isn’t rocket science. No chit more people are dying. I am sure some people died after taking the vaccine, but this crap being pedaled is for clicks and not serious.

When will people be dying in the streets from the covid vax? Don’t you think that journalists would love to go after Trump for operation warp speed if that is true? That story could be epic and you could go after Pharma they would be able to sell clicks like crazy and go after Trump. It would be the left leaning medias dream.

It’s not happening. Stop buying into crazy propaganda it makes us Republicans sound retarded.
NP: where are the excess deaths? When’s it gonna happen?
5x10: here ya go
NP: there are excess deaths


My job is done here
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post 1696020883 01-07-2024, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Why do you ignore the CI's and the direct contrast?
Why do you ignore basic numbers and links I’ve already shared, which say the same thing your link claims, which is that Covid vaccines have a higher risk of myocarditis than flu vaccines.



https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.122.321881

All references available.




Myocarditis associated with SARS-COVID-19 vaccines occurs primarily with mRNA platform vaccines, which are also the most effective. In persons aged >16 or >12 years the myocarditis estimated crude incidences after the first 2 doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 are approximately 1.9 and 3.5 per 100 000 individuals, respectively.These ratesequate to excess incidences above control populations of approximately 1.2 (BNT162b2) and 1.9 (mRNA-1273) per 100 000 persons, which are lower than the myocarditis rate for smallpox buthigher than that for influenza vaccines.




Not liking something doesn’t make it invalid, no matter how badly you want it to.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
There are excess deaths. People died from covid. The world is getting fatter. Drug and alcohol use were much higher during the lockdowns. This isn’t rocket science. No chit more people are dying. I am sure some people died after taking the vaccine, but this crap being pedaled is for clicks and not serious.

When will people be dying in the streets from the covid vax? Don’t you think that journalists would love to go after Trump for operation warp speed if that is true? That story could be epic and you could go after Pharma they would be able to sell clicks like crazy and go after Trump. It would be the left leaning medias dream.

It’s not happening. Stop buying into crazy propaganda it makes us Republicans sound retarded.
people died from covid AFTER taking a vaccine and multiple boosters lmao this fat tub of pig sht.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Who pays me to post here? Why?

Who pays CT propagators to post here? Why?



Just lol
No idea, you obviously are here to push only one narrative as 90% of your post history is related to one topic, and that being deflection away for the jab. Like I said, your post history speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted By 5x10
NP: where are the excess deaths? When’s it gonna happen?
5x10: here ya go
NP: there are excess deaths


My job is done here
And not just excess deaths, but a very substantial number of excess deaths. That’s why people like JLC are running cover and trying to attribute it all to “long covid”.
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Originally Posted By messomi
people died from covid AFTER taking a vaccine and multiple boosters lmao this fat tub of pig sht.
Also guys, this next variant just so happens to be weaker than any before it….but we’ve discovered that it will cause a lot of heart issues in young people who also just so happen to be the group most at risk from injection-related heart problems. Be safe out there!
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
I’m curious as to what the goal of your crusade is? Are you intending to convince people to get the vax and boosters going forward, or is it more of a defending vaccines and boosters that have already been administered here?

Clearly you have an agenda. Are you willing to admit what that is?
Pls respond
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Why do you ignore basic numbers and links I’ve already shared, which say the same thing your link claims, which is that Covid vaccines have a higher risk of myocarditis than flu vaccines.
Where did you learn, or hear/read that eyeballing a difference between point estimates, while ignoring variance, is a valid statistical approach?

Out of curiosity, is the same place you learned/heard/read that people physically supervise linear regression?
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
The point is mainly to laugh at and bully retards like you, dude. It's not complicated. You're dumb and proud of it, and we hate you. Very simple.
lol at this loser. If he had a coherent response that was legit he’d have sent one long ago. Fake intellectuals like you and JLC are the reason for mistrust in medicine, and science as a whole.

Congrats on completely defecating on what you hold so sacred

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Originally Posted By Paul
No idea, you obviously are here to push only one narrative as 90% of your post history is related to one topic, and that being deflection away for the jab. Like I said, your post history speaks for itself.
Thanks for the attention, I guess

But definitely that's for bringing the lulz.
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Originally Posted By messomi
people died from covid AFTER taking a vaccine and multiple boosters lmao this fat tub of pig sht.
the next hurdle is

The excess deaths can only be from the spike protein in the virus
Not in the vaccine
Cause the spike protein never leaves the arm


Remember that lie
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post 1696021573 01-07-2024, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where did you learn, or hear/read that eyeballing a difference between point estimates, while ignoring variance, is a valid statistical approach?

Out of curiosity, is the same place you learned/heard/read that people physically supervise linear regression?
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.122.321881

All references available.




Myocarditis associated with SARS-COVID-19 vaccines occurs primarily with mRNA platform vaccines, which are also the most effective. In persons aged >16 or >12 years the myocarditis estimated crude incidences after the first 2 doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 are approximately 1.9 and 3.5 per 100 000 individuals, respectively.These ratesequate to excess incidences above control populations of approximately 1.2 (BNT162b2) and 1.9 (mRNA-1273) per 100 000 persons, which are lower than the myocarditis rate for smallpox buthigher than that for influenza vaccines.




Not liking something doesn’t make it invalid, no matter how badly you want it to.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
lol at this loser. If he had a coherent response that was legit he’d have sent one long ago. Fake intellectuals like you and JLC are the reason for mistrust in medicine, and science as a whole.

Congrats on completely defecating on what you hold so sacred
It seems anyone who challenges the misc narrative is a pseudo dishonest bad faith intellectual.

How do you define intellectual? Who qualifies?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.122.321881

All references available.




Myocarditis associated with SARS-COVID-19 vaccines occurs primarily with mRNA platform vaccines, which are also the most effective. In persons aged >16 or >12 years the myocarditis estimated crude incidences after the first 2 doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 are approximately 1.9 and 3.5 per 100 000 individuals, respectively.These ratesequate to excess incidences above control populations of approximately 1.2 (BNT162b2) and 1.9 (mRNA-1273) per 100 000 persons, which are lower than the myocarditis rate for smallpox buthigher than that for influenza vaccines.




Not liking something doesn’t make it invalid, no matter how badly you want it to.
So gonna go with moving on to an indirect passing comment that you like?

Did you read the full article you shared?




Just lol
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It seems anyone who challenges the misc narrative is a pseudo dishonest bad faith intellectual.

How do you define intellectual? Who qualifies?
Still dodging my question lol. You’re a joke
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Thanks for the attention, I guess

But definitely that's for bringing the lulz.
yes, I find your post history quite amusing as well, glad we finally agree.
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
You'll never "trust" science anyway. You didn't trust it enough to study anything properly when you were in school. You got average or trash grades and work as a tradie. You don't know anything, and no one cares about your opinion on scientific matters. What you post is noise.
Wrong as usual, about everything pertaining to me. But I understand your need to cope
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So gonna go with moving on to an indirect passing comment that you like?

Did you read the full article you shared?




Just lol
Not indirect at all. It’s directly related to your earlier lie. Sorry if that bothers you.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.122.321881

All references available.




Myocarditis associated with SARS-COVID-19 vaccines occurs primarily with mRNA platform vaccines, which are also the most effective. In persons aged >16 or >12 years the myocarditis estimated crude incidences after the first 2 doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 are approximately 1.9 and 3.5 per 100 000 individuals, respectively.These ratesequate to excess incidences above control populations of approximately 1.2 (BNT162b2) and 1.9 (mRNA-1273) per 100 000 persons, which are lower than the myocarditis rate for smallpox buthigher than that for influenza vaccines.




Not liking something doesn’t make it invalid, no matter how badly you want it to.
"Adverse effects have been associated with most, if not all, vaccinations that are used to protect against infectious diseases. Common adverse effects (frequency 1%-10%) associated with vaccination include short-lived discomfort at injection sites (reactogenic symptoms) and postvaccination flu-like symptoms (fever, chills, and myalgias). The risk of serious adverse effects after vaccination is very low with incidences typically less than 10 per 100 000 vaccine doses in most cases. Serious adverse effects associated with vaccinations include cardiac effects such as myocarditis and pericarditis and noncardiac effects such as anaphylaxis, febrile seizures, immune thrombocytopenia, encephalitis, meningitis, and Guillain-Barre syndrome. A recent analysis by the WHO identified 790 vaccine-related cases of myocarditis out of 5108 drug-induced myocarditis cases (15.5%) across 47 countries from 1967 to 2020.37 In 2010, there was an increase of myocarditis cases (n=294) after vaccination including 177 (60.2%) associated with smallpox, 72 (24.5%) with anthrax, and 48 (16.3%) with influenza.37 Another study estimated that the incidence of myocarditis following smallpox vaccination (13.2 per 100 000 vaccine doses) is much higher than the incidence following COVID-19 vaccination (Table S1; per 100 00 persons receiving the first 2 doses, median of 1.9 for BNT162b2, 3.5 for mRNA-1273), influenza vaccination (0.13 per 100 000 vaccine doses), or other non-small pox vaccinations (5.7 per 100 000 vaccine doses).38 Myocarditis following vaccination typically has a short time to onset (average of 10 days), low mortality, and often has pericardial involvement"


"No cases of myocarditis have been reported in vaccinated 0.5- to 5-year olds 90 Therefore, ongoing vaccination in this age group should prevent not only vaccine and infection induced myocarditis, but also MIS-C."

"Thus, when myocarditis risk in SARS-CoV-2 infection and mRNA vaccines are compared, including in the same studies to the same controls using the same methodology, the increased incidence rates compared to background are similar, with the median values for BNT162b2 (1.48 [N=3] or 2.47 [N=6]) and mRNA-1273 (6.25 [N=3] or 6.32 [N=4]) bracketing COVID-19 (3.52 [N=3])."

"Conclusions

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, therefore, recommends all persons 6 months and older receive the COVID-19 vaccine as the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the rare risk of myocarditis"

Just lol
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Not indirect at all. It’s directly related to your earlier lie. Sorry if that bothers you.
They do not estimate a contrast between influenza- and covid vaccine-related myocarditis. Did you read it?



Lulz
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It's always funny the people that completely disregard the life threatening health conditions that come with being fat, while at the same gladly taking the shot and several boosters.

Just lmao
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
They do not estimate a contrast between influenza- and covid vaccine-related myocarditis. Did you read it?



Lulz
All references linked
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
All references linked
Indeed.

Might as well start with reading the paper tho.

It's a good find, but counters your positions

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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
False dichotomy. Doctors advise a healthy lifestyle, diet, and exercise, while also advocating for vaccination.
Which makes their "trust the science" motto sound even more stupid.

I'm not talking about doctors though, but overweight patients who eat themselves to an early death, while advocating for a vaccine that they swear will save their lives.

But if there's one thing we've learned about libcucks, is that they love to flip flop on health related issues, in favor of whatever furthers their agenda.
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Originally Posted By OldDirtyBulk
Which makes their "trust the science" motto sound even more stupid.

I'm not talking about doctors though, but overweight patients who eat themselves to an early death, while advocating for a vaccine that they swear will save their lives.

But if there's one thing we've learned about libcucks, is that they love to flip flop on health related issues, in favor of whatever furthers their agenda.
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