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post 1696025953 01-07-2024, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
The point is mainly to laugh at and bully retards like you, dude. It's not complicated. You're dumb and proud of it, and we hate you. Very simple.
You hate everyone who didn't get the jab? Including BigBallsMcgee?
post 1696026033 01-07-2024, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You hate everyone who didn't get the jab? Including BigBallsMcgee?
You expect consistency from that flip flopping simpleton? He’s the biggest partisan on the forum
post 1696026153 01-07-2024, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Nope. It doesn't make anything they said stupid. Those patients are still better off vaccinating than not.
You aren't up to date on your boosters, nor do you live a healthy lifestyle. You are the last person someone should listen to regarding how others would be better off.
post 1696026293 01-07-2024, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Sure, Jan. What's your background and what was your GPA? Why should anyone care about your opinion on medicine over that of respected scientists and doctors? You're the one making spurious claims. Prove them and justify your position. Otherwise, fuk off.
You do know, when the tobacco company was being attacked, they had numerous doctors and experts claiming that there were no negative side effects with smoking? Trust the science!!!

Doctors used to prescribe Laudanum for headaches.

Doctors one time were against washing their hands, when it came to delivering babies, trust the science!!!
post 1696026443 01-07-2024, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Including you.
Including BigBallsMcgee? And black people were the least vaccinated group in the country, followed by Hispanics. How does that make you feel?
post 1696026463 01-07-2024, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
And numerous more doctors showed with scientific evidence that smoking is harmful. And many of the same think tanks and people that argued for tobacco also supported the antivax movement. Kind of makes you think.
You DO know that just because someone didn't get the COVID jab, doesn't mean they're anti-vax?

Hell, you didn't get the boosters, using your logic, you're anti-vax......
post 1696026483 01-07-2024, 02:58 PM
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So i bought a tub of Isopure vanilla protein from the warehouse store and the seal was partially open.
I am concerned about "Spiked Protein" so would you return it?
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
post 1696026833 01-07-2024, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Again, it's not my argument. It's you vs experts. The onus is on you to explain why anyone should listen to you.
The same experts that said to wear paper masks? Or two of them? To wear them outside? To take the Pfizer jab, the wrong way for over a year?
post 1696026873 01-07-2024, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You DO know that just because someone didn't get the COVID jab, doesn't mean they're anti-vax?

Hell, you didn't get the boosters, using your logic, you're anti-vax......
Personally, I think it's being anti-vaccine, or opposed to vaccines, that puts people into the anti-vax camp
post 1696026903 01-07-2024, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
I'm up to date on all my vaccinations. You know you've lost the argument when you start making it personal and making stuff up.

You are literally against all mRNA vaccines because they are new and mysterious to you. That's antivax. You irrationally believe they are more dangerous than the viruses they were made to vaccinate against. You want others to believe your delusion with you, so you troll this board, which is an echo chamber. Meanwhile, the scientific and medical community overwhelmingly favors the use of these vaccines.

Exolain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology.
You didn't get the boosters, you're not fully vaxxed. And if you didn't get the RSV jab, the flu shot, the shingles jab, and the Pneumococcal jab, you're anti-vax......
post 1696027063 01-07-2024, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
I'm up to date on all my vaccinations. You know you've lost the argument when you start making it personal and making stuff up.
You were recommended(by the same medical community you constantly praise on here) to get an updated Covid injection last Sept. yet you still haven’t. Unless of course you changed your mind and injected yourself again. Either way it’s pretty funny.
post 1696027163 01-07-2024, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Again, it's not my argument. It's you vs experts. The onus is on you to explain why anyone should listen to you.
Experts? I'll say it again, when funding and pay structure is stacked against academia science in favor of paradigm consensus, it creates an unfair, inaccurate and corrupt narrative.
post 1696027273 01-07-2024, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
I am up to date on all the recommended vaccinations.

Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

None of you are giving any explanations. All you do is try to create doubt in their recommendations. But that does not explain why I should take your recommendations. See the issue?
Sorry, you're not fully vaxxed, and the vax you got back in 2021, is useless now. You deny science Wincel, for refusing to get the recommended booster shots. You're selfish and deserve to die......
post 1696027293 01-07-2024, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Experts? I'll say it again, when funding and pay structure is stacked against academia science in favor of paradigm consensus, it creates an unfair, inaccurate and corrupt narrative.
I'll trust you, bro.

But, could you explain how pay structure is stacked in favour of a (presumably false) consensus?
post 1696027443 01-07-2024, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'll trust you, bro.

But, could you explain how pay structure is stacked in favour of a (presumably false) consensus?
Sure, do you understand how doctors are paid regarding what drugs they give out as prescriptions? Do you personally know any Pharmaceutical Reps?
post 1696027653 01-07-2024, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
I am up to date on all the recommended vaccinations.

Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

None of you are giving any explanations. All you do is try to create doubt in their recommendations. But that does not explain why I should take your recommendations. See the issue?
1.) just lol at getting yet another covid injection last fall


2.) the medical system(and many govt. agencies) are wholly compromised by big insurance companies and big pharmaceutical companies. This has been proven over and over again as we see profits prioritized over public health. It’s not a question, because it is CONSTANTLY on display.




3.) because I’m healthier than you. If you choose my route you’d be in better shape. Now, I know you like to larp on here about being a doctor and having elite level times in all types of physical activities, but we know the truth. And you don’t have to just listen to me, look at what has happened as millions of Americans took the advice of the medical community. Millions of adults were over-prescribed opiates. Millions of children were over-prescribed amphetamines, millions more(and growing every day) are prescribed SSRIS and other drugs to alter brain activity. People are over-prescribed statins all the time. The list goes on and on. And the public health of our country is a glaring example of listening to these “experts”. It’s absolutely terrible and getting worse every year. But feel free to keep fighting for these giant corporations. Your heroes like Castro and Stalin would be proud.
post 1696027733 01-07-2024, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So i bought a tub of Isopure vanilla protein from the warehouse store and the seal was partially open.
I am concerned about "Spiked Protein" so would you return it?
Clown post from clown poster who locked grandma in the garage when she caught a cold. lol at you, clown
post 1696027783 01-07-2024, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Even if you show that there is some doubt in believing A, that is not an argument for believing not A. Even if the medical community is highly corrupt, that does not make an argument showing the vaccines are unsafe. You need to actually make that argument. You have not. And you need to explain why I should believe the fringe sources you link. You haven't connected those things logically, Paul. And you never will because your argument is weak.
I've listed dozens of studies showing the harmful effects of the jab, Pfizer themselves told you that it causes myocarditis...wtf are you even on?


https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...-agreement-and

It's as though you deliberately want to look like a moron with every post you make
post 1696027853 01-07-2024, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Thanks for proving the point that science will eventually win out
This often is the case. Sometimes, lies go on for 10, 20 even as many as 50 years before they're called out (ala Ancel Keyes bullchit 7 country study). We will see if any narrative shifts happen with this heavily funded, corporatized and propagandized covid vaccines.

Who knows? Maybe when the dust settles, we'll find out they're mostly harmless and only fairly useless. And, even if that is the case - that narrative alone is a far cry from what "The Science" was shoving down people's throats just a couple years back:

- Lying about hospitals being overrun only with "the unvaccinated"
- You can not get covid after taking the vaccines
- You do not spread covid if vaccinated
- The vaccines were 99% effective
- You will not go to the hospital if vaccinated and then get a rare "breakthrough" case of covid
- As above, but you will not die

And on and on and on, and nowhere was it said: The vaccines boost your antibodies (which, btw, not even the primary way our immune systems deal w/ viral diseases), which gives a brief window of protection, that will reduce symptoms. Within several weeks, the effects subside and fade away entirely.

Which, maybe for some people what I just described is something they might want. Someone very sick, very susceptible and afraid? Maybe. Not children, not healthy people, which those groups were targeted by the propaganda throughout this.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

- Arthur Schopenhauer
post 1696027963 01-07-2024, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
So what you have done is make a personal attack followed by an argument of doubt, followed by a claim that I should believe you over people with actual education and expertise in medicine simply because you are allegedly healthy, followed by more arguments of doubt and then a bandwagon argument.

I again ask you directly,

Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

Your argument boils down to you claiming you are healthy and therefore you are more qualified to provide medical advice than experts. No offense, but I would rather a surgeon perform surgery on me, than you. The argument is weak.
Lol, it doesn’t matter what I say. There is more than enough evidence out there to show the corruption involved in our medical system. I’ve provided a few of the more obvious examples. And deep down you know it to be true. But by all means, keep getting your annual injections. Doesn’t bother me…and unlike you, I wouldn’t won’t even wish death upon you and your family for your decision.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Sure, do you understand how doctors are paid regarding what drugs they give out as prescriptions? Do you personally know any Pharmaceutical Reps?
You said academics.

Also, Pain Hustlers is a movie.
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Even if you show that there is some doubt in believing A, that is not an argument for believing not A. Even if the medical community is highly corrupt, that does not make an argument showing the vaccines are unsafe. You need to actually make that argument. You have not. And you need to explain why I should believe the fringe sources you link. You haven't connected those things logically, Paul. And you never will because your argument is weak.
Healthy people have been overwhelmingly demonstrated to be fine dealing with coldvid without the vax. Statistics do not lie.

Congrats on your appeal to authority though. But we already knew you sucked off those who achieved more academically than you. Doesn’t mean doctors opinions (which are tailored to the general public fat fuk) apply to all of us.

Imagine claiming to be a free thinker but literally regurgitating msm talking points without thought. lol At Portland State MS degrees srs
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Lol, it doesn’t matter what I say. There is more than enough evidence out there to show the corruption involved in our medical system. I’ve provided a few of the more obvious examples. And deep down you know it to be true. But by all means, keep getting your annual injections. Doesn’t bother me…and unlike you, I wouldn’t won’t even wish death upon you and your family for your decision.
Yet, you always refuse to share the evidence
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Again, the discussion isn't about the alleged corruption of the medical community. I simply asked this:

Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

You have not made a convincing argument. On the other hand, there is a plethora of scientific evidence to support the scientific consensus on this matter. Again, why should I believe you?
Cool, so believe Pfizer when they tell you that their ClotShot increases the risk of myocarditis then.

Seems like a no brainer to me dum dum.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...-agreement-and
post 1696028313 01-07-2024, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Again, the discussion isn't about the alleged corruption of the medical community. I simply asked this:

Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

You have not made a convincing argument. On the other hand, there is a plethora of scientific evidence to support the scientific consensus on this matter. Again, why should I believe you?
Lots of doctors don’t recommend the injections for people like you. Many advanced nations that do much better with regards to public health don’t recommend them for people like you. They also have a lot less corruption involved in their country with regards to big Pharma and healthcare. So it’s not just about what I say. There are lots of professionals who agree. It’s just that you are stuck in your current position due to being so emotionally invested in it.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Lots of doctors don’t recommend the injections for people like you. Many advanced nations that do much better with regards to public health don’t recommend them for people like you. They also have a lot less corruption involved in their country with regards to big Pharma and healthcare. So it’s not just about what I say. There are lots of professionals who agree. It’s just that you are stuck in your current position due to being so emotionally invested in it.
Alex left a lot of important details out of that post.

When you say "their country", to which country are you referring.

Many, if not most, first world nations do better than the US with regard to public health outcomes.
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
And now you are being outright dishonest. Nowhere on there do they argue their shots are harmful.




right here dum dum..




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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Again, increased relative to what? Relative to baseline. Not relative to the virus. At no point do they argue not to get vaccinated. Your argument is fallacious and weak.
WTF are you talking about, increase relative..?

DID YOU NOT FUKING READ IT???

FFS, you are a legit dumbass
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can u imagine taking several doses of a rushed, experimental gene therapy manufactured by a company with a history of having paid the largest fine for fraud in history with tons of contamination in every shot because corporate media (that receives millions of dollars from that same corrupt company) spooked you lmao

and then on top of that, defending them for years after in order to cope frk

br00t
Make Europe Germany Again
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
Paul, when a claim is made that a quantity "increases", that means it increased relative to something, perhaps its prior state. So, my question to you was "increase relative to what?" The answer is relative to the baseline control of not taking the vaccine. But to evaluate overall harm of the vaccines and if they are worth taking, one ought to compare the risk of the vaccine to the associated expected risk from the virus itself. For that, the scientific evidence overwhelmingly shows covid has far more dangerous vascular effects. Again, you failed to understand the statement on the website and are either deliberately misrepresenting it or you are too ignorant to understand what was said.
Except it never states that..you are making the assumption it is to baseline, but at no point in the report does it make this supposed claim, and especially not under vaccine risk..here it is in full..



IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION

You shouldNOTreceive COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) if you have had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient of COMIRNATY or a previous dose of a Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
There is a remote chance that COMIRNATY could cause a severe allergic reaction. A severe allergic reaction would usually occur within a few minutes to 1 hour after getting a dose of the vaccine. For this reason, your vaccination provider may ask you to stay at the place where you received the vaccine for monitoring after vaccination. If you or your pre-teen or teenager experience a severe allergic reaction, call 9-1-1 or go to the nearest hospital. Signs of a severe allergic reaction can include:
difficulty breathing, swelling of the face and throat, a fast heartbeat, a bad rash all over the body, dizziness and weakness

Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart), particularly within the first week following vaccination. For COMIRNATY, the observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Seek medical attention right away if you have any of the following symptoms after receiving the vaccine, particularly during the 2 weeks after receiving a dose of the vaccine:
chest pain
shortness of breath
feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering, or pounding heart
Additional symptoms, particularly in children, may include:
Fainting
Unusual and persistent fatigue or lack of energy
Persistent vomiting
Persistent pain in the abdomen
Unusual and persistent cool, pale skin
Fainting can happen after getting injectable vaccines including COMIRNATY. Your vaccination provider may ask you to sit or lie down for 15 minutes after receiving the vaccine
People with weakened immune systems may have a reduced immune response to COMIRNATY
COMIRNATY may not protect all vaccine recipients
Tell your vaccination provider about all of your medical conditions, including if you:




Now if you are going to make a claim it is less of a risk of myocarditis to those that are unvaccinated vs vaccinated..you have to support that. You make the claim, you need to provide the evidence. The words of the report are quite simple.

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