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post 1696208923 01-11-2024, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
Ok so if they thought it was droplet, doesn't a six foot rule make sense? Derp. Why is this hard for you to grasp? It turned out to be airborne.But the initial recommendations were made assuming droplet transmission.

Also, you didn't really demonstrate from that that you understand the distinction.

PS: If they had known it was airborne, you'd have had a total China style lockdown rather than "distancing", which I fully agree would have been the best move. What you do in an airborne scenario is full blown quarantine.
How TF else would it spread wincel? It wasn't sexually transmitted.. They quite literally said this is an airborne virus that will spread.... you know, through the air.

You should really stop talking wincel. Because....

At this point you're just arguing because you want to have an argument to defend your sacred covid with. Everybody else sees through your bullshiit too.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
How TF else would it spread wincel? It wasn't sexually transmitted.. They quite literally said this is an airborne virus that will spread.... you know, through the air.

You should really stop talking wincel. Because....

At this point you're just arguing because you want to have an argument to defend your sacred covid with. Everybody else sees through your bullshiit too.
No. China said it was airborne. The US treated it as droplet spread at first. And unfortunately, you still do not grasp the distinction even after I told you to google it. You are also acting like a bot.
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
Reason 1: A diplomatic crisis with China could harm more people than even the virus lol.
So it sounds like you’re saying fauci’s rationale wasn’t at all scientific, but actually political?
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
So it sounds like you’re saying fauci’s rationale wasn’t at all scientific, but actually political?
I'm listing it as a possibility. Fauci is first a doctor. His oath is to minimize harm. If I were in his shoes, even if I knew it was made in a Chinese lab, I'd lie. Because the fallout from that would indirectly damage more lives. Xi would have already gotten rid of whoever fuked up anyway.

But that aside, the evidence suggests a natural origin, but isn't conclusive.
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
I'm listing it as a possibility. Fauci is first a doctor. His oath is to minimize harm. If I were in his shoes, even if I knew it was made in a Chinese lab, I'd lie. Because the fallout from that would indirectly damage more lives. Xi would have already gotten rid of whoever fuked up anyway.

But that aside, the evidence suggests a natural origin, but isn't conclusive.
He lied/flip flopped about the need to use PPE too though. Do you think it’s good practice for the nations top health official to lie to the American public when he thinks it’s for their own good? Americans deserve to be given accurate information when it comes to public health, so we can make our own decisions don’t you think?

This, along with his mishandling of AIDS and fundind feeding beagles to sand fleas (amongst other questionable research) is a huge reason why much of the public doesn’t trust him.

I don’t think that is an unreasonable position to hold. Even if you disagree you can understand can’t you?
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
I'm listing it as a possibility. Fauci is first a doctor. His oath is to minimize harm. If I were in his shoes, even if I knew it was made in a Chinese lab, I'd lie. Because the fallout from that would indirectly damage more lives. Xi would have already gotten rid of whoever fuked up anyway.

But that aside, the evidence suggests a natural origin, but isn't conclusive.
Fauci lied, people died
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
He lied/flip flopped about the need to use PPE too though. Do you think it’s good practice for the nations top health official to lie to the American public when he thinks it’s for their own good? Americans deserve to be given accurate information when it comes to public health, so we can make our own decisions don’t you think?

This, along with his mishandling of AIDS and fundind feeding beagles to sand fleas (amongst other questionable research) is a huge reason why much of the public doesn’t trust him.

I don’t think that is an unreasonable position to hold. Even if you disagree you can understand can’t you?
That one made some sense because there was a mask shortage, and they weren't even clear if N95s would work because they didn't work vs airborne influenza, and again, if it were droplet transmission mostly, N95 would have been overkill and should have been reserved for doctors.

No. You don't deserve anything. Our government lies to us all the time. They even lied to you about capitalism, and you're still defending it. You don't get to make public health decisions. That's the government's job. If there were a quarantine declared, and you tried to violate protocol, the military would be authorized to shoot you. Let it sink in.

No, I don't think it is remotely reasonable to crucify Fauci over any of these alleged claims.

You guys put political faith in Donald Trump. Well Donald Trump recommended everyone take vaccines and gave Fauci a medal. So what is your issue exactly? if you're going after Fauci, why not Trump? Trump was the president and had full authority over everything. And since he left it to governors, you can also blame them.
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
That one made some sense because there was a mask shortage, and they weren't even clear if N95s would work because they didn't work vs airborne influenza, and again, if it were droplet transmission mostly, N95 would have been overkill and should have been reserved for doctors.

No. You don't deserve anything. Our government lies to us all the time. They even lied to you about capitalism, and you're still defending it. You don't get to make public health decisions. That's the government's job. If there were a quarantine declared, and you tried to violate protocol, the military would be authorized to shoot you. Let it sink in.

No, I don't think it is remotely reasonable to crucify Fauci over any of these alleged claims.
I figured you would have this response as you’re blinded by your love of Fauci.

Just to be clear, you’re good with some government lies, just not all of them (convenient)?

I don’t defend any government lies to the public. It’s clear you do
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
I figured you would have this response as you’re blinded by your love of Fauci.

Just to be clear, you’re good with some government lies, just not all of them (convenient)?

I don’t defend any government lies to the public. It’s clear you do
I defend whatever minimizes harm and leads to the best outcomes. And why Fauci? He was only one of many advisors on this. Why is he being singled out? All he did was give policy advice. Donald Trump was the president, and your governors signed orders. Why go after Fauci specifically? Because he was the most visible on TV? What a great reason. Really shows how deeply you thought this one through.
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
I defend whatever minimizes harm and leads to the best outcomes. And why Fauci? He was only one of many advisors on this. Why is he being singled out? All he did was give policy advice. Donald Trump was the president, and your governors signed orders. Why go after Fauci specifically? Because he was the most visible on TV? What a great reason. Really shows how deeply you thought this one through.
He got in front of the country and spewed lies that killed people, that's why. The people behind him supporting those lies should also be prosecuted. If his dangerous mistruths didn't generate such enormous profit he'd definitely be in jail right now.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
He got in front of the country and spewed lies that killed people, that's why. The people behind him supporting those lies should also be prosecuted. If his dangerous mistruths didn't generate such enormous profit he'd definitely be in jail right now.
That's quite a take. Do you have any evidence whatsoever of this? Which lies killed people? If you want to talk about the N95 thing, that probably saved more lives than it harmed because the medical community had a greater need for N95s. It's also a bit rich for an antivaxxer like you to talk about lies killing people.
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
At the time, it wasn't even understood covid was airborne except by a few scientists.
Except corona viruses have been around for centuries and have been heavily studied in the US since the 1930s.
Everyone immediately knew that this one was different and most knew why. Fauci more than anyone should have known since he funded the Chinese lab that weaponized the virus.
Everything that we have been told from the day the the first case was discovered in Wuhan all the way up to today, has all been lies. Fauci was at the forefront of those lies.
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
Except corona viruses have been around for centuries and have been heavily studied in the US since the 1930s.
Everyone immediately knew that this one was different and most knew why. Fauci more than anyone should have known since he funded the Chinese lab that weaponized the virus.
Everything that we have been told from the day the the first case was discovered in Wuhan all the way up to today, has all been lies. Fauci was at the forefront of those lies.
Fukking up covid was a group effort.

Fauci was one dude and he could have been sent packing at any point if those above him had the courage to take responsibility.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Fukking up covid was a group effort.

Fauci was one dude and he could have been sent packing at any point if those above him had the courage to take responsibility.
AKA, buu buu buut Blumpf!

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Oh, don't get me wrong. Government responses were terrible - across the globe. That's party-independent, imo.
In what ways do you think the responses were terrible?
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How did so many adults, not young idiots but I mean mature adults end up
Doing this voluntarily?
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
covidiots simply cant let go
Translation - “Omg stop pointing out the numerous ways we were wrong!!”
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
He got in front of the country and spewed lies that killed people, that's why. The people behind him supporting those lies should also be prosecuted. If his dangerous mistruths didn't generate such enormous profit he'd definitely be in jail right now.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Translation - “Omg stop pointing out the numerous ways we were wrong!!”
You aren’t the brainwashed **** who bragged about administering the vac to many people? If so I just want to say up yours kid!

If it’s not you I sincerely apologize
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Do you sneeze and spit on people when you talk with them wincel? I bet you do...
thats how the common cold and flu gets spread
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
AKA, buu buu buut Blumpf!

I almost always disagree with you, but you aren’t typically NPC like this
I didn't bring up the bad orange man because I wouldn't put it all on him either.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
He got in front of the country and spewed lies that killed people, that's why. The people behind him supporting those lies should also be prosecuted. If his dangerous mistruths didn't generate such enormous profit he'd definitely be in jail right now.
What's crazy is he continued to push for lockdowns despite knowing the devastating effects on the economy that they have (that we are still feeling, and will feel for decades) and how lockdowns cause civil unrest.

While people were being laid off in mass and in food lines, cities were being burned by BLM.. he continued to collect his 500K salary and huge kickbacks from big Pharma.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
You aren’t the brainwashed **** who bragged about administering the vac to many people? If so I just want to say up yours kid!

If it’s not you I sincerely apologize
lol, no. That would the resident troll/shill known as JLC.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
How did so many adults, not young idiots but I mean mature adults end up
Doing this voluntarily?
Doing what voluntarily? Getting infected with a lab-leaked virus?
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
Ok so if they thought it was droplet, doesn't a six foot rule make sense? Derp. Why is this hard for you to grasp? It turned out to be airborne. But the initial recommendations were made assuming droplet transmission.

Also, you didn't really demonstrate from that that you understand the distinction.

PS: If they had known it was airborne, you'd have had a total China style lockdown rather than "distancing", which I fully agree would have been the best move. What you do in an airborne scenario is full blown quarantine.
Clearly the Chinese Lockdowns worked.....
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Originally Posted By Newcil⏩
I defend whatever minimizes harm and leads to the best outcomes. And why Fauci? He was only one of many advisors on this. Why is he being singled out? All he did was give policy advice. Donald Trump was the president, and your governors signed orders. Why go after Fauci specifically? Because he was the most visible on TV? What a great reason. Really shows how deeply you thought this one through.
Why are you making excuses for an "expert" lying?
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
ur mentally ill
Oh look, this guy came out of his hole, since the last variant turned out to be nothing.....
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Waiting for the dumbasses on X (Twitter) to start wearing their masks again and wearing their masks in their avi to signal that they are proud nutcases.
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