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01-25-2024, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Incorrect.It's a standard term that has not changed.
Acquired immunity.
Acquired immunity.
from the CDC's website on another forum on 7/19/2021 from the link below them.
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
The same link has this information NOW!
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
01-25-2024, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
My point exactly.Incorrect.
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Acquired (humoral and cell-mediated) immunity is not new. At all.
You type silliness.
Miscers let it go and even put you out front in these discussions seemingly due to your support of the narrative.
These facts are fundamental to the lulz.
01-25-2024, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Preventing transmission was actually a requirement of the original contract for operation warp speedIncorrect.
from the CDC's website on another forum on 7/19/2021 from the link below them.
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
The same link has this information NOW!
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
from the CDC's website on another forum on 7/19/2021 from the link below them.
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
The same link has this information NOW!
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
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01-25-2024, 03:42 PM
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01-25-2024, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It’s not silliness dum dum..Do you understand the difference between “producing protection”..which can vary in degree to that of “produce immunity to a specific disease”..???My point exactly.
Acquired (humoral and cell-mediated) immunity is not new. At all.
You type silliness.
Miscers let it go and even put you out front in these discussions seemingly due to your support of the narrative.
These facts are fundamental to the lulz.
Acquired (humoral and cell-mediated) immunity is not new. At all.
You type silliness.
Miscers let it go and even put you out front in these discussions seemingly due to your support of the narrative.
These facts are fundamental to the lulz.

01-25-2024, 04:17 PM
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01-25-2024, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
FFS…”Producing Immunity” (old definition) is not the same as “producing protection” (new definition)You type nonsense.
Understand????
01-25-2024, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Vaccines confer acquired (humoral and cell-mediated) immunity.FFS…”Producing Immunity” (old definition) is not the same as “producing protection” (new definition)
Understand????
Understand????
It's a long-standing definition and understanding.
Your not knowing has no impact other than bringing lulz

01-25-2024, 04:27 PM
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Lmao at how happy JLC must’ve been to see Sillie return when he realized he’d have some help sh!posting in these threads.
Gotta give him credit though. Coming up on his four year anniversary of doing nothing but trolling Covid-related threads. That’s some serious dedication, even if it is pretty sad.
Gotta give him credit though. Coming up on his four year anniversary of doing nothing but trolling Covid-related threads. That’s some serious dedication, even if it is pretty sad.
01-25-2024, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
At least no nefarious regression though, yeah?Lmao at how happy JLC must’ve been to see Sillie return when he realized he’d have some help sh!posting in these threads.
Gotta give him credit though. Coming up on his four year anniversary of doing nothing but trolling Covid-related threads. That’s some serious dedication, even if it is pretty sad.
Gotta give him credit though. Coming up on his four year anniversary of doing nothing but trolling Covid-related threads. That’s some serious dedication, even if it is pretty sad.
Just lol

01-25-2024, 04:32 PM
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01-25-2024, 04:40 PM
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01-25-2024, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Or just pick up a book.He lied and presented misinformation just one too many times for my taste - I can't be double checking everything that he posts...
I can safely assume, from his past posts of misinformation, that whatever he posts is, at the very least, embellished to suit the narrative he supports.
I can safely assume, from his past posts of misinformation, that whatever he posts is, at the very least, embellished to suit the narrative he supports.

I dunno if that comes with any clout tho
Just lol

01-25-2024, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The definition was changed (fact..sources linked)Vaccines confer acquired (humoral and cell-mediated) immunity.
It's a long-standing definition and understanding.
Your not knowing has no impact other than bringing lulz
It's a long-standing definition and understanding.
Your not knowing has no impact other than bringing lulz

Producing protection is not the same as producing immunity…it does not matter what you claim, the definition was changed, the terms were changed. It’s really that simple.
the NEW definition states “Protection” not “Immunity”
You are the only one bringing the lulz dancing around the actual point dum dum

01-25-2024, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Can't say I care.I am not sure how me "picking up a book" is supposed to help you not flat out lie in the future?
Again...
If you were caught lying and spreading misinformation numerous times in the past, that's on you, not me.
Again...
If you were caught lying and spreading misinformation numerous times in the past, that's on you, not me.

I figure there's no real argument here, so the discussion turns to me for some reason.
If y'all wanna go Kreulian, give'r.
(But lol)

01-25-2024, 04:58 PM
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01-25-2024, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I figure you go after me because the narrative lacks support.So you don't care that you were caught flat out lying numerous times, and as a direct result of that, people are reluctant to engage in a discussion with you?
Got it.
Got it.

Misc is an echo chamber

01-25-2024, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Again, I don’t care what you claim, what you think any relationship was..the definition was infact changed, the terms were changed.The relationship between (definition of) vaccines and acquired immunity is unchanged.
Nothing changes if you didn't know before and/or don't know now
Nothing changes if you didn't know before and/or don't know now

The public was under the assumption that when the Covid vaccine was rolled out, they would have immunity post vaccination. The vaccine does not provide immunity.
You can continue claiming anything you like, it does not change the fact that the definition was changed from “Producing Immunity” (old definition) to “producing protection” (new definition)
How hilarious you claiming I lack self awareness when you literally presented with what was & what is, you fail miserably
LOL
01-25-2024, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How much protection does the vaccine give a year later? 18 months later?The relationship between (definition of) vaccines and acquired immunity is unchanged.
Nothing changes if you didn't know before and/or don't know now
Nothing changes if you didn't know before and/or don't know now

01-25-2024, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
What is with you and your hostility towards those who didn't get the jab? And why do you believe that just because someone didn't get the jab, it means they're "anti-science?"Can you expand on the whole PCP monetary value thing? Were they paid to recommend the jab? Were they paid to administer the jab? Is this monetary compensation any different than any other procedure they get paid to do?
And boyo, this like the fifth thread you've started in the last month that tries to call into question either the safety or efficacy, or you assume something nefarious between the government and big pharma.
I'm just curious why this is such a hot button for you now boyo. And you come across much more reasonable in your post to me than you do in any of your intentionally inflammatory original posts on the subject.
I think we have enough anti-science, anti-vaxx nutjobs here already. I do not want you to join their ranks friend.
And boyo, this like the fifth thread you've started in the last month that tries to call into question either the safety or efficacy, or you assume something nefarious between the government and big pharma.
I'm just curious why this is such a hot button for you now boyo. And you come across much more reasonable in your post to me than you do in any of your intentionally inflammatory original posts on the subject.
I think we have enough anti-science, anti-vaxx nutjobs here already. I do not want you to join their ranks friend.
01-25-2024, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Has he finally figured out of if Omicron is more or less severe than Delta?I'm sure that THIS time is totally different, though.

01-25-2024, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I see that's how you position yourself in this exchange.I mean, you could just stop lying and spreading misinformation, then I would have nothing to "go after you with".
But you kept ( and keep ) flat out lying and spreading misinformation.
Again, that's on you, not me.
But leave it to a beavercel to blame the person making the observation, not the person actually committing the act.
But you kept ( and keep ) flat out lying and spreading misinformation.
Again, that's on you, not me.
But leave it to a beavercel to blame the person making the observation, not the person actually committing the act.

Dunno why and can't say I care.
I will lol tho

01-25-2024, 05:15 PM
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100% that Doctors get bribed to push certain drugs and a vaxx like the covid jab. My sister is a very attractive girl and when she was 24 she got hired by Claritin to push that drug to Doctors. She would golf with them, buy lunch and dinner, flirt etc. All part of the game. There is a reason why so many of the drug sales reps are young attractive females. All the pharma companies do this.
This is no different. This time they were just offered a flat out bonus if their patients got vaxxed. Considering that most of these doctors probably never even saw and diagnosed the people who got vaxxed, and if they did it was probably for 1 minute?
It is easy money.
Basically the govt, in it's quest to vaxx everyone (for who knows what reasons) just used the same strategy as pharma companies have for 75 years.
Instead of young attractive females? It was $$$.
When you understand that 99% of this worlds population sucks and is just out for themselves? It makes total sense.
This is no different. This time they were just offered a flat out bonus if their patients got vaxxed. Considering that most of these doctors probably never even saw and diagnosed the people who got vaxxed, and if they did it was probably for 1 minute?
It is easy money.
Basically the govt, in it's quest to vaxx everyone (for who knows what reasons) just used the same strategy as pharma companies have for 75 years.
Instead of young attractive females? It was $$$.
When you understand that 99% of this worlds population sucks and is just out for themselves? It makes total sense.
Words to live by...."You're at the shopping mall with your girl but a hot chick walks by. Are you going to look at the hot girl? No. You use your peripheral vision."
01-25-2024, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No blame at all, ever.Again, if you choose to flat out lie and spread misinformation, that's on you, not me.
Don't blame me for calling it out though - if you decided to be intellectually honest and not do so, I would have nothing to call out, now would I?
Maybe you better start looking for that vial of Comirnaty you claim to have been administering.
Don't blame me for calling it out though - if you decided to be intellectually honest and not do so, I would have nothing to call out, now would I?
Maybe you better start looking for that vial of Comirnaty you claim to have been administering.

Just lulz

01-25-2024, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Who bribed the docs?100% that Doctors get bribed to push certain drugs and a vaxx like the covid jab. My sister is a very attractive girl and when she was 24 she got hired by Clariton to push that drug to Doctors. She would golf with them, buy lunch and dinner, flirt etc. All part of the game. There is a reason why so many of the drug sales reps are young attractive females. All the pharma companies do this.
This is no different. This time they were just offered a flat out bonus if their patients got vaxxed. Considering that most of these doctors probably never even saw and diagnosed the people who got vaxxed, and if they did it was probably for 1 minute?
It is easy money.
Basically the govt, in it's quest to vaxx everyone (for who knows what reasons) just used the same strategy as pharma companies have for 75 years.
Instead of young attractive females? It was $$$.
When you understand that 99% of this worlds population sucks and is just out for themselves? It makes total sense.
This is no different. This time they were just offered a flat out bonus if their patients got vaxxed. Considering that most of these doctors probably never even saw and diagnosed the people who got vaxxed, and if they did it was probably for 1 minute?
It is easy money.
Basically the govt, in it's quest to vaxx everyone (for who knows what reasons) just used the same strategy as pharma companies have for 75 years.
Instead of young attractive females? It was $$$.
When you understand that 99% of this worlds population sucks and is just out for themselves? It makes total sense.
01-25-2024, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
If that's where your knowledge, principles, and integrity guide you, that's the position you should takeYou can deflect all you want, the fact remains - you have demonstrated in the past that you will stop at nothing, and will flat out lie to support to narrative you follow.
If you think that is funny, you do you.
If you think that is funny, you do you.


01-25-2024, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Are you really so dishonest that you are going to play naive that Pharmaceutical companies don’t incentive doctors to push their products?Who bribed the docs?
lol, you disingenuous POS, I know that you know I have friends that are Pharmaceutical Reps dum dum
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