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Thread: MAGA would rather the border stay insecure to continue faulting Biden

post 1696982263 01-26-2024, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Not arguing we should give up because of it, but trends have been consistent for decades.

I agree there's been an increase under Biden, I don't agree with the hyperbole of explosions and invasions and all that.
Increase?

12 million new illegals in a little over 3 years. He has doubled what it previously took 100+ years to accomplish.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
That's not my move. The point is not to defend Biden or blame Trump, it's to again point out that hanging the entire thing on the President is retarded. It's just writing story lines for heroes and villains for entertainment.
Is the border invasion the fault of 1 president? No

Did Trump use executive orders to slow down the illegal invasion? Yes

Did Biden undo trumps executive orders and issue new orders making the invasion easier? Yes

As stated, the border invasion is not 1 persons failure. However has Biden things to make it worse? He absolutely has. That’s a fact.

This post isn’t even in support of Trump. I think he should have done much more to shut down the border.
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post 1696982403 01-26-2024, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I don't think saying the problem exploded in 2021 is accurate, or at least it requires a very narrow look at it to be true.

Immigration population as a whole has been on a consistently steep increase since the 1970's, the numbers wiggle a little here and there and we zoom in and argue about the nuances of what's legal and illegal and who to blame.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Fukin retard


Youre wasting your time.

He wont blame Biden or even acknowledge his role with the current state of the border, despite the overwhelming factual evidence.

Because of that, his opinions of everything else are worthless. The useful idiots have been taught that migrants are a race, unto themselves, so even questioning anything regarding the border makes them racist...and that accusation is how you shut up smart white libs right quick.
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A semi secure border deal with Democrats in Congress has attached to it more massive war funding for Ukraine and Israel. Approve it all or no border security. This is the fault of Democrat refusal to tackle one issue at a time, and walking away if they don't get the whole ball of wax.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
A semi secure border deal with Democrats in Congress has attached to it more massive war funding for Ukraine and Israel. Approve it all or no border security. This is the fault of Democrat refusal to tackle one issue at a time, and walking away if they don't get the whole ball of wax.
Absolute scum along with everyone supporting them
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The current chitlib talking point is "Yeah by every metric Biden has made the border progressively worse the last 3 years, but its Trump's fault."

Yeah, go blow your excuses out your ass.
post 1696983233 01-26-2024, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
A semi secure border deal with Democrats in Congress has attached to it more massive war funding for Ukraine and Israel. Approve it all or no border security. This is the fault of Democrat refusal to tackle one issue at a time, and walking away if they don't get the whole ball of wax.
LOL@bold...semisecure??

The bill legally allows in 2 million per year.

This bill was created by the uni-party for two reasons:

1) actually pass it to take immigration off the table for independent/moderate/Biden voters

2) It fails and Trump takes the blame for not wanting a "secure border" Romney and the GOP swamp are already pushing that narrative.
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Why am I not surprised? I knew Trump didn't care about this country. I'm starting to believe his followers don't either. They care about Trump, and that's it.

Your so called RINOs want to strike a deal that helps with the border crisis yet MAGA wants to strike it down cause they'd rather progress their agenda than make progression with the border.

Please reflect on what you lot have become.
A 50ft electrified wall with machine gun turrets is all they need. A mine field would also be perfect. That’s all they need to deter these 4th world peasants from coming
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That border deal that was in talks from what ive read on it is absolutely horrendous. If the democrats dont come around to a solution of the immigration issue that is actually going to drastically limit the amount of illegals entering Usa, they will lose a lot of support.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
LOL@bold...semisecure??

The bill legally allows in 2 million per year.

This bill was created by the uni-party for two reasons:

1) actually pass it to take immigration off the table for independent/moderate/Biden voters

2) It fails and Trump takes the blame for not wanting a "secure border" Romney and the GOP swamp are already pushing that narrative.
Yeah I know. I was being quick with the description. Allowing in 5000 a day means more take measure to evade border patrol, so the 2 million would still come in and the ones sneaking in undetected will simply increase. It's sad that those kunts lie so heavily. What would this have to do with Trump anyway? He's a candidate, not the President right now. Such cuckery is astounding.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Yeah I know. I was being quick with the description. Allowing in 5000 a day means more take measure to evade border patrol, so the 2 million would still come in and the ones sneaking in undetected will simply increase. It's sad that those kunts lie so heavily.What would this have to do with Trump anyway?He's a candidate, not the President right now. Such cuckery is astounding.
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Romney told CNN’s Manu Raju he thought it was “really appalling” that Trump would try to prevent progress on addressing the surge in migration at the southern border.

“I think the border is a very important issue for Donald Trump,” Romney said. “And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it is really appalling.”
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
That border deal that was in talks from what ive read on it is absolutely horrendous. If the democrats dont come around to a solution of the immigration issue that is actually going to drastically limit the amount of illegals entering Usa, they will lose a lot of support.
Democrats ain’t losing boyo. A lot of those illegals will be voting in November
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Right now the narrative is that Republicans don't want to fix anything because of election. No one mentions the fact that the proposed bill is a total sh*t, they think that GOP gets everything they asked for.

Johnson needs to hold press conference and set the record straight. It's his job. I haven't seen a single Republican on a liberal TV channel defending the party on this issue, and I doubt it's because no one wants to interview them.
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Why am I not surprised? I knew Trump didn't care about this country. I'm starting to believe his followers don't either. They care about Trump, and that's it.

Your so called RINOs want to strike a deal that helps with the border crisis yet MAGA wants to strike it down cause they'd rather progress their agenda than make progression with the border.

Please reflect on what you lot have become.
There is no deal that needs to be struck to secure the border. There are already laws against illegal entry into the country. The numerous existing laws just need to be enforced.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Fukin retard


When did the "explosion" occur?



It's easy to post charts. It's harder to examine what the problem you're trying to solve actually is. If your concern is the legalities of who and how people cross the border between the US and Mexico then your chart is relevant. If your concern is the effects of immigration on the quality of life in the country then it's not so relevant.
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Originally Posted By Paul
OMFG..you are legit fuking retarded..Senate is not going to do anything you dumass, the power belongs to the STATE…you seriously have no idea how this country operates do you. Just lol.
Do you? States do not control immigration.

https://education.nationalgeographic...-immigration/#

I only skimmed it, but it seems decent. Educate yourself.
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
A 50ft electrified wall with machine gun turrets is all they need. A mine field would also be perfect. That’s all they need to deter these 4th world peasants from coming
That's not going to do chit. Most of the people coming are refugees seeking asylum who are being admitted at actual crossing points, not sneaking across.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
That's not going to do chit. Most of the people coming are refugees seeking asylum who are being admitted at actual crossing points, not sneaking across.
Well then put a Closed sign up. We don't want or need any more 4th world illegals coming in here and making the tax payer pay for the scum. Have liberals like yourself apply for them, pay for them, and put them up and be responsible for all their needs including medical
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
That's not going to do chit. Most of the people coming are refugees seeking asylum who are being admitted at actual crossing points, not sneaking across.
once the asylum invasion loophole is closed the minefield becomes very effective
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Do you? States do not control immigration.

https://education.nationalgeographic...-immigration/#

I only skimmed it, but it seems decent. Educate yourself.
The dumbass didn't know how this country operates!
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
MAGA would rather the border stay insecure to continue faulting Biden
Thing is though the border is NOT secure because Biden refuses to secure it.

Ergo we will continue to fault Potato Joe.
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Lion Ted knocked it out of the ballpark here

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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
That's not my move.The point is not to defend Bidenor blame Trump, it's to again point out that hanging the entire thing on the President is retarded. It's just writing story lines for heroes and villains for entertainment.
LMAO!!! Good one 'tard!

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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Do you? States do not control immigration.

https://education.nationalgeographic...-immigration/#

I only skimmed it, but it seems decent. Educate yourself.
Incorrect as per the Constitution and articles I posted, seems like another dum lib does not understand how this country is operated.
Do yourself..search if states have the constitutional right to secure its borders dum dum.

It’s not an “immigration” problem you absolute fukin retard lol. It’s a border security/invasion problem. Clearly no ripples upon that cranium of yours lol

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Originally Posted By Paul
Incorrect as per the Constitution and articles I posted, seems like another dum lib does not understand how this country is operated.
Do yourself..search if states have the constitutional right to secure its borders dum dum.

It’s not an “immigration” problem you absolute fukin retard lol. It’s a border security/invasion problem. Clearly no ripples upon that cranium of yours lol

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Why is Senate even discussing border proposals then?

I don't even know wtf you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Why is Senate even discussing border proposals then?

I don't even know wtf you're talking about.
Did you look up to see if states have the Constitutional Right to secure their borders?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Did you look up to see if states have the Constitutional Right to secure their borders?
I believe you. Now answer the question.
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
I believe you. Now answer the question.
It makes no difference what’s senate (it has to pass through Congress/executive..since President is part of the executive branch) is discussing…your state has the authority & obligation to secure its borders.

You arent going to reach the President, but you may be able to get through to your Governor., Mayor first if you must...that is where you start. If you actually gave a fuk (which you don’t, you seem to just want to win internet points..seeing as you are red, seems you lost) you reach out to your Governor, you start writing letters, tell others you know to do the same.
This country is set up in which states usurp power to the Federal, the President has very little control over state regulations practically zero, stop trying to “own” Republicans & do something useful for once in your miserable existence.

I never asked you to believe me, start researching for yourself, & stop believing everything the news tells you.
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Originally Posted By Paul
It makes no difference what’s senate (it has to pass through Congress/executive..since President is part of the executive branch) is discussing…your state has the authority & obligation to secure its borders.

You arent going to reach the President, but you may be able to get through to your Governor., Mayor first if you must...that is where you start. If you actually gave a fuk (which you don’t, you seem to just want to win internet points..seeing as you are red, seems you lost) you reach out to your Governor, you start writing letters, tell others you know to do the same.
This country is set up in which states usurp power to the Federal, the President has very little control over state regulations practically zero, stop trying to “own” Republicans & do something useful for once in your miserable existence.

I never asked you to believe me, start researching for yourself, & stop believing everything the news tells you.
I know how passing a bill works. The senate already agrees, Biden would agree, the only ones that aren't agreeing are the Republicans in Congress. If Congress agreed as well, then the proposal would take affect.

That's the whole point of the OP. Bipartisan bill from Senate isn't getting through to Congress cause of the Republicans in congress.

You're confused.
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