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post 1697017503 01-27-2024, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Uh huh. I'll be sure to remember that, son.



Right. You all said that about Hunter Biden, but dude is now facing 9 felonies.

As for Joe Biden, he wouldn't be facing $83MM. The reason is after getting a $5MM judgement against him, he would be at least smart enough to stop defaming the person he was just ordered to pay $5MM.

Trump literally wants shiit like this to happen so he can pretend he's being unfairly targeted because you droolheads love it. If he returned the documents when asked, nothing would have happened regarding the indictment. Had he kept his mouth shut, there would have been no defamation suit. This is not rocket science, so I'm not sure why you're having such difficulty.




Ah... remember when Covid hit and you called it a nothing burger and that it was nothing like the bird flu? Now you're calling it a once in a lifetime event and trying to use it as "Trump was a great president when he didn't have to deal with presidential decisions."

There's a reason why Trump was on the ballot and not your neighbor. If you didn't think Trump would be the best commander in chief for the country, then you shouldn't have voted for him.

Most every president has to deal with tough situations that are "once in a lifetime," and there is no such thing as, "Yeah, but if we judge his presidency on everything except for [insert tough situation] his presidency was a perfect success."

Wilson had the Spanish Flu.
Eisenhower had the Asian Flu.
Reagan had AIDS.
Bush Jr had SARS and 9/11.
Obama had Swine Flu and Ebola.

Trump had Covid and Libs. Any of the presidents listed above, with the exception of Wilson, would have handled Covid better. Just be happy that Trump wasn't president when Ebola starting hitting in Texas, son. I am.



Okay, so Hunter Biden has been indicted with 9 felony accounts because of politics and there are no grounds for the charges? That's what you're claiming, son.




It sounds like what you're suggesting is that no speech can be defaming - people should be free to say whatever they want about someone and not be held accountable?

Funny how you didn't feel that way before Trump got jarred up.
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Simpletons really believe this hag is going to see a dime out of 84 million lmao. This is an intergalactic chess move by geotus. When it comes to press... No publicity is bad publicity for Trump. Thx E. coli Carroll for contributing .5% to Trump's margin over Biden. Simpletons haven't learned anything from 2016 hah!
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Funny how every observation you make is in defense of liberals.
Its called being realistic if you think that everything is a secret leg up on the competition you get complacent. and after losing 2020 and the 2022 midterms its kinda hard to think that this is somehow a good thing for trump/republicans.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
Simpletons really believe this hag is going to see a dime out of 84 million lmao. This is an intergalactic chess move by geotus. When it comes to press... No publicity is bad publicity for Trump. Thx E. coli Carroll for contributing .5% to Trump's margin over Biden. Simpletons haven't learned anything from 2016 hah!
Trumps lost every election since lol.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
It sounds like what you're suggesting is that no speech can be defaming - people should be free to say whatever they want about someone and not be held accountable?
Yes I believe in freedom of speech. I don't think defamation lawsuits should even exist because it's against the First Amendment. Now we see why the Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment, because any anti-speech laws will be used to persecute political opponents. This needs to go all the way to the Supreme Court because otherwise it means the death of the First Amendment.
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Let me repeat what im reading


Woman accuses man of rape
Man is presumed innocent, never found guilty in a court of law
Man defends himself, claims she is a liar
Woman sues him for defamation and wins


WHAT

again

WHAT


So I accuse someone of a crime, they call me a liar, and I sue them for calling me a liar because it damaged my rep. Even though I never proved that person did what I accused them of
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How do judges have so much power? Shouldn’t the legal outcome be determined by law, due process with evidence and not someone’s bias, political leanings and strong opinions of things? Isn’t the judge supposed to be impartial? What’s the point of even having a trial if your fate depends on your and the judges political leanings? Should require one liberal and one conservative judge if that’s the case.
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
What happens when Trump appeals? Goto another TDS left leaning judge and jury?
Fun fact, on appeal all the facts the jury at the trial decided were true are incontestable.
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
How do judges have so much power? Shouldn’t the legal outcome be determined by law, due process with evidence and not someone’s bias, political leanings and strong opinions of things? Isn’t the judge supposed to be impartial? What’s the point of even having a trial if your fate depends on your and the judges political leanings? Should require one liberal and one conservative judge if that’s the case.
I’m sure you feel the same way that Trump appointed a third of the current Supreme Court when it’s a case that involves Biden or Trump right? Biden clearly needs three justices he picks out on those occasions … right?
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Trumps lost every election since lol.
But but 2016..
Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
How do judges have so much power? Shouldn’t the legal outcome be determined by law, due process with evidence and not someone’s bias, political leanings and strong opinions of things? Isn’t the judge supposed to be impartial? What’s the point of even having a trial if your fate depends on your and the judges political leanings? Should require one liberal and one conservative judge if that’s the case.
Lol.
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Fun fact, on appeal all the facts the jury at the trial decided were true are incontestable.
His feelings are more important than the facts of the case.
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Yes I believe in freedom of speech. I don't think defamation lawsuits should even exist because it's against the First Amendment. Now we see why the Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment, because any anti-speech laws will be used to persecute political opponents. This needs to go all the way to the Supreme Court because otherwise it means the death of the First Amendment.
As usual, those with the strongest opinions know nothing about which they speak.

Freedom of speech is to prevent the GOVERNMENT from stopping your speech. Have you ever read it?

"Congress shall make no lawrespecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; orabridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;"

What you're suggesting is it's okay if someone, say your girlfriend, lies to your boss about you and they fire you over it because your girlfriend has the freedom of speech to lie about you and damage your reputation to the point it makes you unemployable. That's the world you want to live in. Crazy fukking people.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Good job wrecking that obsessed, larping homo Z. He's clearly unstable and more likely than not to turn out like the dude who bashed his way into Pelosi's house. Only this time he'll be bashing his way into my house because he's an obsessed sociopath.

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Z I will respond to your post later.
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post 1697039373 01-27-2024, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Z I will respond to your post later.
I'll await with bated breath, son. Just make sure you read the post first. K, son?
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I'll await with bated breath, son. Just make sure you read the post first. K, son?
On second thought....nvm.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
On second thought....nvm.
Wise choice, son. When you get curb-stomped, it's best to wave the flag, son. Hopefully Hunter Biden, with respect to his felonies, isn't treated as well as Trump has been treated with respect to his.
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z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Imagine having TDS…as a European (photographer at that)!!! Lmao!!

Like how have you formed such an opinion of an American politician that the only thing you post about is him? Do you realize how bizarre that is?
You know what? You're right.
What does it matter to me, or the average European, or anyone else in the world for that matter, who leads the USA?
It's not like anything you guys do has any effect on the rest of us, is it? We should just STFU and mind our own business.
If you want to elect a criminal, con-man, (alleged, but probable) rapist, narcissistic, compulsive liar (AGAIN) who cares, right?
I've been a fool, and I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
You know what? You're right.
What does it matter to me, or the average European, or anyone else in the world for that matter, who leads the USA?
It's not like anything you guys do has any effect on the rest of us, is it? We should just STFU and mind our own business.
If you want to elect a criminal, con-man, (alleged, but probable) rapist, narcissistic, compulsive liar (AGAIN) who cares, right?
I've been a fool, and I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.
Hail Trump! And be sure to let us know how it turned out in 4 years' time. We don't get to hear much about you guys across the pond very often.
And of course it doesn't bother you that we elected a potato who can't form a coherent sentence, talks to people who aren't there, and gets lost every day. Does it.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And of course it doesn't bother you that we elected a potato who can't form a coherent sentence, .
Yeah but we got rid of him in 2020…
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Yeah but we got rid of him in 2020…
You would think Bushlouse would like potatoes since his brain is composed of one and needs a CNA to wipe and polish his ass every day.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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She will never see that money.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
She will never see that money.
Wrong, son. In order to appeal, he has to post a bond of about 20% and then collateralize the other 80%, plus interest. If he doesn't appeal, then they can start executing on the judgement. Sorry, son, but your cheeto got mason jarred up.

Notice after the judgement, he talked shiit about the judge, about the process, about the jurors, about the DOJ, but he didn't say squat about E Jean Carrol. I guess he finally learned. You could use a nickel's worth, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Wrong, son. In order to appeal, he has to post a bond of about 20% and then collateralize the other 80%, plus interest. If he doesn't appeal, then they can start executing on the judgement. Sorry, son, but your cheeto got mason jarred up.

Notice after the judgement, he talked shiit about the judge, about the process, about the jurors, about the DOJ, but he didn't say squat about E Jean Carrol. I guess he finally learned. You could use a nickel's worth, son.
But Z, the Trump lovers keep telling me SCOTUS will overturn this. So Trump's in the clear, right?
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Has it been mentioned yet that the judge was a mentor to one of Carroll's lawyers years ago, and the other lawyer was a law clerk for the judge? Clear conflicts of interest mean an appeal should be easy.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
But Z, the Trump lovers keep telling me SCOTUS will overturn this. So Trump's in the clear, right?
This one prob won't go to scotus, prob won't get overturned - the punitive damages may be reduced though.
Are the Courts Likely to Sustain the $65 Million in Punitive Damages Awarded Against Trump in the E. Jean Carroll Defamation Case?

A jury just found Donald Trump liable for over $83 million in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case. Of that, about $65 million are punitive damages.

Are the punitive damages likely to be sustained if challenged (as they will be) judicially?

To begin with, there’s the question whether the compensatory damages will stand. If they are found to be excessive, then the punitive damages would likely be gone as well, and a new trial on both damages held. I don’t have an opinion on the excessiveness of the compensatory damages because I did not pay close enough attention to the evidence at this latest trial.

But the punitive damages question presents different issues. Apart from any state court review, the U.S. Supreme Court has held that punitive damages sometimes are unconstitutional under the due process clause and require independent review (one of the leading cases here is State Farm v. Campbell).

The purpose of punitive damages is to punish and deter, and wealthier defendants would likely need a higher punitive damage award to be deterred. Also, Trump appears to be a recidivist, continuing to defame Carroll, which would justify a higher award.

That said, the Supreme Court has said that the wealth of the defendant cannot justify an otherwise unconstitutional award, and that when substantial compensatory damages are awarded (as they were in this case), then a punitive award should be in a relatively low ratio to compensatory damages (like a 1:1 ratio, meaning damages in the $18 million range).

It’s fairly common for a jury to award very high punitive damages to a rich defendant who has engaged in egregious conduct, only to see the punitive award lowered either by the trial court or on appeal.

We’ll see what happens, but the full $65 million in punitive damages is uncertain to stand.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And of course it doesn't bother you that we elected a potato who can't form a coherent sentence, talks to people who aren't there, and gets lost every day. Does it.
Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Yeah, we voted for him in 2020…
Fixed that right up for you there Phil.


Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You would think Bushlouse would like potatoes since his brain is composed of one and needs a CNA to wipe and polish his ass every day.
On the contrary Carl Spackler, I love potatoes! They're anelite vegetablethat goes perfectly with a nice big juicy steak, son!

Of course you being a little vegan twink with no balls, you wouldn't know anything about that, son.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Of course you being a little vegan twink with no balls, you wouldn't know anything about that, son.
My veganism lives rent free in that little pinhead of yours, son.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
My veganism lives rent free in that little pinhead of yours, son.
It's fun to laugh at you, son.
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
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