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Originally Posted By Paul
Yes, it's very transparent lol..I agree

Unlike you, I just don't believe slides and banners cost up to $8 MILLION dollars
It's all of their donations and funding. Not just conferences and events, obviously.
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Another example. Watch the video with Tucker Carlson where he interviews the guy talking about gender care clinics.

They went from 0 in 2010 to over 100 today. All because of ObamaCare. So there were incentives created to push this crap onto kids. And they have.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZR0nmt36J_Y
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
The fact is most of these drugs that get pushed on people are because the doctors get extra money from the pharms to push them and sell them.

I already talked about the fact that my sister was a pharm rep for Claritin and got all kinds of perks and gave them out as well to doctors who sold the allergy drug.

I trained race horses for 22 years and regularly had vet bills in the $1000s each week, and I learned very quickly which drugs or procedures were needed and which ones were just being pushed on me as an owner/trainer because the vet got kickbacks for selling them. I was told many times for example by a vet named Dr. Kim B that he would get bonus $$ from the pharm companies if he sold a certain amount of xxx drug every month.

It's all a big scam.

So now you have perhaps the biggest scam disease every in covid, a worldwide thing.......of course these pharma companies are going to push them onto people. It's all about the $$$.
In this case, the incentives were provided by an insurance company.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
In this case, the incentives were provided by an insurance company.
Yes same reason as for the rise in gender clinics as I posted above.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's all of their donations and funding. Not just conferences and events, obviously.
Obviously. I mean, 8 million dollars I'd expect to see balloon banners and water slides at least
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Originally Posted By Paul
Obviously. I mean, 8 million dollars I'd expect to see balloon banners and water slides at least
Or a new/renovated facility, years of funding, or something
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
Yes same reason as for the rise in gender clinics as I posted above.
I dunno.

I think maybe insurance companies thought it might reduce future claims/costs.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Yes, it's very transparent lol..I agree

Unlike you, I just don't believe slides and banners cost up to $8 MILLION dollars
Trying to suggest that's my claim, although fallacious, is definitely a strategy one could take.

Or just look at the actual charitable donation:



Take a couple of leaps and then suggest it's actually a cover for bribing physicians to recommend covid vaccines and Bob's your uncle.

Lol tho



Looks more like they gave money to help people afford cancer drugs.


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Or a new/renovated facility, years of funding, or something
Per organization?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Per organization?
I don't understand your question. Are you tallying by recipient? Can you share the tally?

To which $8M donation(s) are you referring? I posted the one I saw.



Do you see any in parentheses?


To be clear and explicit. I am not defending any pharmaceutical company. They all engage in greedy corporate practices. Pharma greed is directly linked to global health inequality, imo.


I am trying to understand what you think this document, or the OP, uncovers. What is the big discovery? How does it support the narrative?


Nothing you've presented is exclusive to pharma and certainly doesn't suggest/support the idea that covid vaccines are nefarious.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Trying to suggest that's my claim, although fallacious, is definitely a strategy one could take.

Or just look at the actual charitable donation:



Take a couple of leaps and then suggest it's actually a cover for bribing physicians to recommend covid vaccines and Bob's your uncle.

Lol tho



Looks more like they gave money to help people afford cancer drugs.


Like the ones's they are coming out with..also if you scroll down..is Healthwell Foundation, and "Vaccine Hesitancy" in regards to cancer treatment as well?

Just lulz

Edit- looks like we have an $18MILLION to Patient Advocate Donation for "Charitable Donations"

LOOOL
This gets better and better
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Originally Posted By Paul
Like the ones's they are coming out with..also if you scroll down..is Healthwell Foundation, and "Vaccine Hesitancy" in regards to cancer treatment as well?

Just lulz

Edit- looks like we have an 18MILLION to Patient Advocate Donation for "Charitable Donations"

LOOOL
Wat?

Which "ones" are "they" "coming out with"? Who is "they"? The recipients of copay assistance?


Are you suggesting this is a bribe to physicians to recommend covid vaccines?



https://www.panfoundation.org/
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Wat?

Which "ones" are "they" "coming out with"? Who is "they"? The recipients of copay assistance?
WAAT??

https://www.pfizer.com/science/oncology-cancer/pipeline

Pfizer Oncology is committed to discovering, investigating, and developing transformative therapies that improve the outlook for cancer patients worldwide.

Our strong pipeline—one of the most robust in the industry—includes biologics, small molecules, immunotherapies, and biosimilars, and is centered on exploring a wide array of approaches across many tumor types. We seek to translate the most innovative science into meaningful breakthrough medicines that redefine life with cancer for patients.




-Pfizer Inc struck a $43 billion deal for Seagen Inc to add innovative targeted therapies to its portfolio of cancer treatments as it braces for a steep fall in COVID-19 product sales and stiff competition for some top sellers.

Monday's deal, Pfizer's biggest in a string of acquisitions following a once-in-a-lifetime cash windfall from its COVID-19 vaccine and pill, will add four approved cancer therapies with combined sales of nearly $2 billion in 2022.

Washington-based Seagen is a pioneer of antibody-drug conjugates, which work like "guided missiles" designed for a targeted destructive effect and spare healthy cells.

The deal helps Pfizer move into an area "that it is more protected from regulators, patent perspectives and market dynamics," Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in a conference call.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pfize...ycsrp_catchall
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Originally Posted By Paul
WAAT??

https://www.pfizer.com/science/oncology-cancer/pipeline

Pfizer Oncology is committed to discovering, investigating, and developing transformative therapies that improve the outlook for cancer patients worldwide.

Our strong pipeline—one of the most robust in the industry—includes biologics, small molecules, immunotherapies, and biosimilars, and is centered on exploring a wide array of approaches across many tumor types. We seek to translate the most innovative science into meaningful breakthrough medicines that redefine life with cancer for patients.




-Pfizer Inc struck a $43 billion deal for Seagen Inc to add innovative targeted therapies to its portfolio of cancer treatments as it braces for a steep fall in COVID-19 product sales and stiff competition for some top sellers.

Monday's deal, Pfizer's biggest in a string of acquisitions following a once-in-a-lifetime cash windfall from its COVID-19 vaccine and pill, will add four approved cancer therapies with combined sales of nearly $2 billion in 2022.

Washington-based Seagen is a pioneer of antibody-drug conjugates, which work like "guided missiles" designed for a targeted destructive effect and spare healthy cells.

The deal helps Pfizer move into an area "that it is more protected from regulators, patent perspectives and market dynamics," Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in a conference call.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pfize...ycsrp_catchall
So now it's bad if a company develops new products?

Are you suggesting the Patient Network Foundation is secretly developing pharmaceuticals with Pfizers donated money?

I don't get y'all, at all
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Wat?

Which "ones" are "they" "coming out with"? Who is "they"? The recipients of copay assistance?


Are you suggesting this is a bribe to physicians to recommend covid vaccines?



https://www.panfoundation.org/
I think we can keep it to what Pfizer states as reasons given themselves

-Vaccine Confidence PSA
-Vaccine Engagement
-Lets Vaccinate
-Covid019 Series
-Vaccine Advocacy
-Vaccine Education
-Advocacy Efforts
-Vaccine Collaboration
-Adult Vaccination Education
--Vaccine Hesitancy: Community Engagement and Education


I can keep going..
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Originally Posted By Paul
I think we can keep it to what Pfizer states as reasons given themselves

-Vaccine Confidence PSA
-Vaccine Engagement
-Lets Vaccinate
-Covid019 Series
-Vaccine Advocacy
-Vaccine Education
-Advocacy Efforts
-Vaccine Collaboration
-Adult Vaccination Education
--Vaccine Hesitancy: Community Engagement and Education


I can keep going..
I imagine you can keep going (copy/pasting) indefinitely. That doesn't mean what gets pasted will make any sense, tho
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I imagine you can keep going (copy/pasting) indefinitely. That doesn't mean what gets pasted will make any sense, tho
I imagine there was no incentive by Pfizer in any of the above posted "conferences" to incentivize these medical organizations to use the vaccines made by Pfizer..even though we have direct monetary records of it occurring.

Makes sense indeed
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Originally Posted By Paul
I imagine there was no incentive by Pfizer in any of the above posted "conferences" to incentivize these medical organizations to use the vaccines made by Pfizer..even though we have direct monetary records of it occurring.

Makes sense indeed
Of course they want to sell their product.


If the suggestion is that marketing = individual bribing, that's a different discussion. If that's the suggestion, there is zero evidence posted in this thread.

If you take issue with laissez-faire capitalism, you'll find the misc opposed
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Of course they want to sell their product.


If the suggestion is that marketing = individual bribing, that's a different discussion. If that's the suggestion, there is zero evidence posted in this thread.

If you take issue with laissez-faire capitalism, you'll find the misc opposed
I’ll trust you bro, no incentive to push drugs by the company that makes the drugs..giving money to organizations distributing said drugs and vaccines. Everything is on the up & up at Pfizer.
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Originally Posted By Paul
I’ll trust you bro, no incentive to push drugs by the company that makes the drugs..giving money to organizations distributing said drugs and vaccines. Everything is on the up & up at Pfizer.
Like I said, obviously companies want to sell their products.

Many many many companies pursue multiple channels of marketing.


The claim here is bribery. You have not supported the claim

Pretty funny how the crew bails when you get going.


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Originally Posted By JUSA
Sillie, you came back from your 'hiatus' and seemed quite a bit more centered. This stuff though, it's not a good look.

I don't know about you, but when I found myself embroiled in typing disgusting things to other people, having them respond in kind, back and forth -- nothing positive came from those interactions in the least. Nobody felt, "owned", nobody won anything, all that happened was grown adults who should know better rolled around in the mud like pigs. I personally, it made me feel dirty and it was not good for me on a mental level.

Also, just from the couple times we've interacted since your return -- I see someone who is getting worked up over this and it's spilled out to how you treat other people. Myself even, far more aggressively, judgemental -- and the kind of thing that quite easily turns into these moronic bickering arguments you're in deep with right now. I didn't bite back, so nothing came from it, but what if I had? Would you have pushed a little harder in turn? Then if I had as well, pretty soon it'd been the same thing we see here (which I say from direct experience).

Break the chain. Take a few on the chin and just don't respond. Whatever that more centered place was when you came back, go find it.
You proud of me boyo? I'm ignoring the larping, insecure insect who mentioned me with every other post during my ban and who throws up a pic that only he is dumb enough to think is me so he can get off to it.

It's legit scary how obsessed and into me his is.

But I ain't engaging with the larping loser because you're right, that just gives him the attention from me that craves so bigly.

Thanks again for the advice boyo.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
You proud of me boyo?
IF something like not acting like a 14 year old schoolboy with a potty mouth combined with turrets, as a 50 something year old man as you are, gives you that much pride in yourself?

Two things.

Your self esteem is next to zero.

And......

You live a pretty pathetic life.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Like I said, obviously companies want to sell their products.

Many many many companies pursue multiple channels of marketing.


The claim here is bribery. You have not supported the claim

Pretty funny how the crew bails when you get going.


It’s pretty funny that even when they tell you the funds are for vaccine hesitancy, you still deny. Of course bribery is occurring, you’d be absolutely naive to think it’s not. It's happened all throughout Pfizer's history, but just overlook all that.
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Originally Posted By Paul
It’s pretty funny that even when they tell you the funds are for vaccine hesitancy, you still deny. Of course bribery is occurring, you’d be absolutely naive to think it’s not. It's happened all throughout Pfizer's history, but just overlook all that.
I don't follow the leaps.


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I don't follow the leaps.


Well perhaps examining their past might be a good start

18million for "charitable donations" ..should have had you questioning
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Originally Posted By Paul
Well perhaps examining their past might be a good start

18million for "charitable donations" ..should have had you questioning
The recipients are listed, tho. Plus you added 10 million
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The recipients are listed, tho. Plus you added 10 million
Annd another lie..
...Patient Access Network Foundation...18M.."Charitable Donations" + 3Mil=21Million..one organization alone for "charitable donations"

https://www.panfoundation.org/our-positions/

No slides and banners mentioned
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Originally Posted By Paul
Annd another lie..
...Patient Access Network Foundation...18M.."Charitable Donations" + 3Mil=21Million..one organization alone for "charitable donations"

https://www.panfoundation.org/our-positions/

No slides and banners mentioned
What are you on about?

How is that a bad charity?
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Originally Posted By JUSA



Financial Incentives To Inject As Many Babies As Possible + VR Vaccine?

BCBS program specifies that every patient under the age of 2 that receives the [currently] prescribed 24 inoculations is worth a $400 payout to that doctor.

BCBS requires that a doctor must vaccinate 63% of their patients in order to qualify.
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"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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So an insurance company offered incentives?
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