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post 1697183623 01-30-2024, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Or maybe you're so dumb, you don't realize why I am "holding him to those exact words". Now that would take a little bit of brains to figure out.

Why do you keep using the term "gaslight" wrong when I've shown you the definition multiple times.

Maybe you will read it this time:

"Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse where a person causes someone to question their sanity, memories, or perception of reality."
You're not alone in wanting me, and anyone who questions the narrative, to stop posting content that questions the narrative
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Well, you may live in a very strange bubble that prevents you from understanding why normies view bureaucrats and 'trusted sources' in media as authority figures, but the fact remains that no one in the scientific community is willing to bite the hand that feeds grant money.

Hopefully in the future we will have ardent truth tellers using the scientific method to dispel bureaucratic myths and lies, but thats not the world we currently inhabit
When it's discovered that you've been lied to, you start to question everything. People like Sillie and the others, question nothing.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Here it is again:

"Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse where a person causes someone to question their sanity, memories, or perception of reality."

Please read it this time.
You are so literal it's no surprise you have the views you do.

What are your thoughts on this fallacy that you tried to pull over on us. Another way of saying gaslighting.

What is the fallacy of lifting out of context?
Taking Quotes Out of Context | - Braintrust Tutors
This type of word manipulation is known as “the quoting out of context fallacy.” When writers use quotes with a meaning other than originally intended, this misrepresents the author/speaker being quoted.
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post 1697183783 01-30-2024, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
When it's discovered that you've been lied to, you start to question everything. People like Sillie and the others, question nothing.
But why would anyone trust politicians and journalists in the first place?

OP provided great evidence of headlines being completely detached from content
post 1697184213 01-30-2024, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
But why would anyone trust politicians and journalists in the first place?

OP provided great evidence of headlines being completely detached from content
Youre right, the "experts" never lied to us.....
post 1697184233 01-30-2024, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting.

So are you saying it was "out of context fallacy"?
Which is another way of saying gaslighting boyo.

Reading comprehension ain't your strong suit boyo.
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post 1697184343 01-30-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
When the pseudointellectual is cornered by his own words - their only option is to call the other party "dumb" and run away.

Or are you capable of answering my previous question:

Are you saying it was "out of context fallacy"?

Yes or no answer please.
Of course. I'm the one who pointed that out in the first place boyo.
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post 1697184383 01-30-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Youre right, the "experts" never lied to us.....
The OP demonstrates the issue.

Imagine getting mad because you don't read past the headline
post 1697184763 01-30-2024, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Well then...

Thanks for conceding that it was not in fact "gaslighting" as you originally claimed.

And with the entire premise of your "argument" destroyed, thanks for playing and better luck next time.
LMFAO.

"Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse where a person causes someone to question their sanity, memories, orperception of reality."

You tried to get us to question our perception of the reality of what JLC meant by applying the Out of Context Fallacy.

LOL you really are thick boyo.

ib4 "words aren't reality" or some other low IQ nonsense.

Stop gaslighting boyo. It's something little girls do.
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post 1697185213 01-30-2024, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Just remember science deniers, when your kid has cancer none of the treatments will be 100% effective. I guess you'll turn them down?
The same way you lefties turned down the 'dRumphh' wall because it wouldn't stop 100% of illegal immigration? Just lol.

And what a stupid gaslighting argument to use cancer treatment vs the risk analysis of an unproven vaccine for a virus with a very low death rate (assuming the decimal point is placed correctly).
post 1697185353 01-30-2024, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The same way you lefties turned down the 'dRumphh' wall because it wouldn't stop 100% of illegal immigration? Just lol.

And what a stupid gaslighting argument to use cancer treatment vs the risk analysis of an unproven vaccine for a virus with a very low death rate (assuming the decimal point is placed correctly).
Which vaccines meet the misc "proven" criterion prior to approval?
post 1697185443 01-30-2024, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which vaccines meet the misc "proven" criterion prior to approval?
Some people chose not to be guinea pigs. To deride those individuals for their choice is very authoritarian of you.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The same way you lefties turned down the 'dRumphh' wall because it wouldn't stop 100% of illegal immigration? Just lol.

And what a stupid gaslighting argument to use cancer treatment vs the risk analysis of an unproven vaccine for a virus with a very low death rate (assuming the decimal point is placed correctly).
Unlike the non-intellect Anachron, I'll accept the gaslighting term. You could also say I was arguing from extremes.

But the point is that covid was a novel virus and not that well known early, easy to say it's not lethal at all knowing what we know now, but back then there was lots of unkowns.
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post 1697185653 01-30-2024, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Define the "misc proven criterion" please.
See how you moved the quotation marks?


post 1697185973 01-30-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Sorry brah, on mobile and walking somewhere, figured I didn't need to type it out.

Define the "misc 'proven' criterion prior to approval" please.
It's intellectually honest when it serves the narrative
post 1697186233 01-30-2024, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think if you look, or ask, you'll find significant discrepancy between what the scientific community reports and what politicians and journalists report.

This thread is indicative of that power. Most apparently don't read past headlines

I suggested subscribing to TOC's
That's nice but the fact still remains, the distributors of grants get to lie and misrepresent without repercussion whereas anyone else that goes off narrative at all gets viciously attacked by people like yourself. Most people aren't going to take the time to dig through studies that they would only barely understand anyway and try to figure out what's BS, and at some point when we're being told that we're cultists and science haters for rejecting information from people that got the science wrong over and over it just becomes white noise.
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post 1697186533 01-30-2024, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
But the point is that covid was a novel virus and not that well known early, easy to say it's not lethal at all knowing what we know now, but back then there was lots of unkowns.
Just like there were a lot of unknowns about the vaccine side effects. To belittle people for their personal choice to avoid new vaccine with no track record is very ****ty and anti choice of you.
post 1697186653 01-30-2024, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So to confirm, you're asking people to answer which vaccines meet a criteria that you cannot or refuse to define?
Which vaccines had post Phase 3 long term data, challenge trials, and 100% effectiveness prior to approval?

Not anti-vaccine, just anti-covid vaccine
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
That's nice but the fact still remains, the distributors of grants get to lie and misrepresent without repercussion whereas anyone else that goes off narrative at all gets viciously attacked by people like yourself. Most people aren't going to take the time to dig through studies that they would only barely understand anyway and try to figure out what's BS, and at some point when we're being told that we're cultists and science haters for rejecting information from people that got the science wrong over and over it just becomes white noise.
Who are the "distributors of grants"?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which vaccines had post Phase 3 long term data, challenge trials, and 100% effectiveness prior to approval?

Not anti-vaccine, just anti-covid vaccine
Weren't the COVID vaccines being administered early on without FDA approval?
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Weren't the COVID vaccines being administered early on without FDA approval?
Covid vaccines got an EUA,

That is one of the reasons skeptics use to reject.

I'm just asking which vacccines (because skeptics are only opposed to covid vaccines) meet the implied criterion:

- long term data
- 10 years of safety dataafterphase 3 trials,beforeapproval

- Effectiveness
- only vaccines with 100% effectiveness arerealvaccines
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Covid vaccines got an EUA,

That is one of the reasons skeptics use to reject.

I'm just asking which vacccines (because skeptics are only opposed to covid vaccines) meet the implied criterion:

- long term data
- 10 years of safety dataafterphase 3 trials,beforeapproval

- Effectiveness
- only vaccines with 100% effectiveness arerealvaccines
Do the traditional rules change at all..... when people are dying like flies in Italy and New York City and something is a new or novel killer?
Asking for a friend?
And did the Obama *emergency response book* say anything about special circumstances and pandemics?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Do the traditional rules change at all..... when people are dying like flies in Italy and New York City and something is a new or novel killer?
Asking for a friend?
And did the Obama *emergency response book* say anything about special circumstances and pandemics?
You're being way way way too objective
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Covid vaccines got an EUA,

That is one of the reasons skeptics use to reject.

I'm just asking which vacccines (because skeptics are only opposed to covid vaccines) meet the implied criterion:

- long term data
- 10 years of safety dataafterphase 3 trials,beforeapproval

- Effectiveness
- only vaccines with 100% effectiveness arerealvaccines
I'm just wondering why you have so much disdain for people who weren't comfortable taking a new to market vaccine that has no long term safety data?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Don't forget those early videos of people falling down having seizures in China...

It's enough to make people banish their sick family members to an unheated garage.
Impossible to "banish" if it is their home( 4 hours away) and they decide for themselves at age 70....
Logic not even once...... from this follower of me all over the site, sad but fact!
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
I'm just wondering why you have so much disdain for people who weren't comfortable taking a new to market vaccine that has no long term safety data?
I have no disdain
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I have no disdain
Calling them science hating anti vaxxers sure seems like disdain
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Calling them science hating anti vaxxers sure seems like disdain
Where did I say that?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Let's see:



inb4 all of a sudden, it's bad to read between the lines, and how we should only read the literal words.
Boyo that's the opposite of what you claimed. That may be the most reasonable post made here.

You're doing it again boyo. Stop misrepresenting what people say or what they really mean.

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