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post 1697207433 01-30-2024, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Are they all 100% effective with zero risk of adverse effects?
So I take it you didn't, and you're a hypocrite? Just like Sillie? Two anti-science hypocrites.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
So I take it you didn't, and you're a hypocrite? Just like Sillie? Two anti-science hypocrites.....
Wat?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
So I take it you didn't, and you're a hypocrite? Just like Sillie? Two anti-science hypocrites.....
Wincel is at three shots total.

Even more lulzy

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Do you think that's markedly different from other vaccines to which people aren't opposed?
I really like how he feels "bad" for "jabbies" because a vaccine doesn't guarantee absolutely no disease is possible from a pathogen after your vaccine. It just greatly reduces your chance of severe disease and death and symptomatic infectious period.


Such a low threshold of victory they've set themselves: It's a false dichotomy between absolutely no ill effects and death WRT vaccination! HAHA YOU TAKE L MUDBLOODS!!
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I really like how he feels "bad" for "jabbies" because a vaccine doesn't guarantee absolutely no disease is possible from a pathogen after your vaccine. It just greatly reduces your chance of severe disease and death and symptomatic infectious period.


Such a low threshold of victory they've set themselves: It's a false dichotomy between absolutely no ill effects and death WRT vaccination! HAHA YOU TAKE L MUDBLOODS!!
How many shots are you at now?
post 1697211823 01-30-2024, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Wat?
You really are a retard.....
post 1697211923 01-30-2024, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I really like how he feels "bad" for "jabbies" because a vaccine doesn't guarantee absolutely no disease is possible from a pathogen after your vaccine. It just greatly reduces your chance of severe disease and death and symptomatic infectious period.


Such a low threshold of victory they've set themselves: It's a false dichotomy between absolutely no ill effects and death WRT vaccination! HAHA YOU TAKE L MUDBLOODS!!
You know what also reduces your chances of death, and severe disease? Not being obese, or having numerous pre-existing conditions.

If you're a healthy, fit individual, there's no reason for the jab.

And unless you, yes "you" haven't been up to date with your boosters, and you didn't get a flu shot, RSV shot, and Pneumococcal shot, then you're a hypocrite as well.
post 1697213023 01-30-2024, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Do these posts help?
Last I checked the Smallpox vaxxine had about a 150 yrs worth of testing and research before hitting the public
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Originally Posted By Paul
Last I checked the Smallpox vaxxine had about a 150 yrs worth of testing and research before hitting the public
Really?

The current smallpox vaccine was FDA approved 150 years after the initial phase 3 trial?

Was the FDA specific about requiring long term safety data?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Really?

The current smallpox vaccine was FDA approved 150 years after the initial phase 3 trial?

Was the FDA specific about requiring long term safety data?
That's not what I has said at all...another lie. I had stated it had over 150 yrs of research and development behind it, Polio vaccine had about 60 yrs behind it.
post 1697219733 01-31-2024, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
That's not what I has said at all...another lie. I had stated it had over 150 yrs of research and development behind it, Polio vaccine had about 60 yrs behind it.
Had? Prior to approval?

You also suggested polio (and all) vaccines are riskier than the disease.


But like I said, I can appreciate the full on anti vaccine position. I just think folks should own it

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Do these posts help?
Interesting, not only are you refusing to clarify your very vague criteria, you are now claiming that the criteria you defined is the definition of "misc-approved vaccine".

Reminds me of this post:
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's interesting that anyone who questions or challenges the narrative gets grouped together.

My views are my own and I don't represent any other poster. No other poster represents me.
I can appreciate the full on hypocrite position. I just think folks should own it

Thanks for keeping it lulzy tho

post 1697224103 01-31-2024, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Really?

The current smallpox vaccine was FDA approved 150 years after the initial phase 3 trial?

Was the FDA specific about requiring long term safety data?
That's deceitful as **** considering the FDA wasn't formed until 110 years after the small pox vaccine was created. And suddenly you're invoking the FDA as gospel when you know many vaccines are administered without FDA approval. You're just as slimy as the 'news' outlets that pushed the narrative for 100% effectiveness of the COVID 'vaccine'.

Your constant deflection with purposeful stupid questions is exactly why people cannot have a logical discussion with lefties (inb4 not a lefty).
post 1697224543 01-31-2024, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
That's deceitful as **** considering the FDA wasn't formed until 110 years after the small pox vaccine was created. And suddenly you're invoking the FDA as gospel when you know many vaccines are administered without FDA approval. You're just as slimy as the 'news' outlets that pushed the narrative for 100% effectiveness of the COVID 'vaccine'.

Your constant deflection with purposeful stupid questions is exactly why people cannot have a logical discussion with lefties (inb4 not a lefty).
MMR

DTaP

Hib

IPV

RV



How much post phase-3 data was available for the above vaccines, prior to their approval?

Are they all 100% effective?

Do any have risks of adverse reactions or events?

How does that align for folks who aren't anti-vaccine, only anti-covid vaccine?
post 1697224953 01-31-2024, 08:30 AM
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Why would anyone believe anything they say? They lie about everything.

Vax was multi-pronged operation:

Kill off elderly and people with medical issues with corona itself
Kill off people with vax (either when taken or side effects later)
Make money off vax over and over
Ram propaganda and fear mongering down publics throat
Curtail rights
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
MMR

DTaP

Hib

IPV

RV



How much post phase-3 data was available for the above vaccines, prior to their approval?

Are they all 100% effective?

Do any have risks of adverse reactions or events?

How does that align for folks who aren't anti-vaccine, only anti-covid vaccine?
More deflection as this has nothing to do with what you quoted.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I really like how he feels "bad" for "jabbies" because a vaccine doesn't guarantee absolutely no disease is possible from a pathogen after your vaccine. It just greatly reduces your chance of severe disease and death and symptomatic infectious period.


Such a low threshold of victory they've set themselves: It's a false dichotomy between absolutely no ill effects and death WRT vaccination! HAHA YOU TAKE L MUDBLOODS!!
Lold at โ€œgreatlyโ€ does anythingโ€ฆ.



It increases your risk of infection for a few weeks, then provides moderate protection for a couple of months. Afterwards you are AT BEST no better off than someone who didnโ€™t get the injection. And itโ€™s possible you end up more likely to be infected down the road(and that your odds go up with each booster), all the while exposing yourself to risk from the injections themselves.



Thatโ€™s probably why you yourself have never gotten one.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
More deflection as this has nothing to do with what you quoted.
All he does is troll, deflect, build strawmen, reply โ€œwatโ€, and so on and so forthโ€ฆ. Mindblown that anyone still attempts to engage in any type of meaningful, productive conversant with him.
post 1697225723 01-31-2024, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
More deflection as this has nothing to do with what you quoted.
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
All he does is troll, deflect, build strawmen, reply โ€œwatโ€, and so on and so forthโ€ฆ. Mindblown that anyone still attempts to engage in any type of meaningful, productive conversant with him.
What I am demonstrating is the incongruity between what people expect of covid vaccines but not others.

The arguments fall apart when talking points are probed.

The influenza vaccine took 2 years, in 1942.

The arguments and attempted gotchas posted by skeptics generally only demonstrate ignorance of a topic
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"Trust the science" is what the wokies call "fascist." It is the most anti-scientific term you could utter.

TEST the science. That's the whole fukking point of science.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What I am demonstrating is the incongruity between what people expect of covid vaccines but not others.

The arguments fall apart when talking points are probed.

The influenza vaccine took 2 years, in 1942.

The arguments and attempted gotchas posted by skeptics generally only demonstrate ignorance of a topic
Who are these "people"?

Why are you still refusing to define the criteria you want people to meet?

Thanks for keeping it lulzy tho

post 1697226193 01-31-2024, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Who are these "people"?

Why are you still refusing to define the criteria you want people to meet?

Thanks for keeping it lulzy tho

The folks who oppose some vaccines, but for reasons that apply to all vaccines. Or those that reject research results if the investigators use regression in their analysis. Or those who insist ANOVA is valid across all contexts, as long as the title(s) and maybe conclusions, support the narrative.

Generally, new researchers who are either unaware of, or refuse to look at, any work prior to 2021.


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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
"Trust the science" is what the wokies call "fascist." It is the most anti-scientific term you could utter.

TEST the science. That's the whole fukking point of science.
So "wokies" reject the call to "trust the science" because it's "fascist"?

Is that bad?

Is "wokie" a new term for "skeptic"?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The folks who oppose some vaccines, but for reasons that apply to all vaccines. Or those that reject research results if the investigators use regression in their analysis. Or those who insist ANOVA is valid across all contexts, as long as the title(s) and maybe conclusions, support the narrative.

Generally, new researchers who are either unaware of, or refuse to look at, any work prior to 2021.


Interesting.

Can you name one of these people?

Or are you imagining men made of straws?

Thanks for keeping it lulzy tho

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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting.

Can you name one of these people?

Or are you imagining men made of straws?

Thanks for keeping it lulzy tho

I don't include you in the group. You seem to stick to haranguing posters, specifically those who challenge or question the narrative
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So "wokies" reject the call to "trust the science" because it's "fascist"?

Is that bad?

Is "wokie" a new term for "skeptic"?
What I'm saying is woke people call everything and everyone that disagrees with them fascist while acting like the true authoritarians themselves.

IE, "Wear a fukking mask!"
IE, mandating an experimental gene therapy injection despite shots usually taking 5 - 10 years of testing before approval
IE, saying retarded terms like "Trust the science!" which is an oxymoronic statement that seems to eschew the scientific method entirely in favor of blind faith.
IE, demanding everyone around them conform to their beliefs be it political, spiritual, or in this instance, medical
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
What I'm saying is woke people call everything and everyone that disagrees with them fascist while acting like the true authoritarians themselves.

IE, "Wear a fukking mask!"
IE, mandating an experimental gene therapy injection despite shots usually taking 5 - 10 years of testing
IE, saying retarded terms like "Trust the science!" which is an oxymoronic statement that seems to eschew the scientific method entirely in favor of blind faith.
IE, demanding everyone around them conform to their beliefs be it political, spiritual, or in this instance, medical
Thanks for the clarification. I had no idea these were things that define being woke
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I don't include you in the group. You seem to stick to haranguing posters, specifically those who challenge or question the narrative
I didn't say whether you did or not.

But thanks for confirming that these "people" are indeed just imaginary men of straw.

Keep it lulzy though

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What I am demonstrating is the incongruity between what people expect of covid vaccines but not others.

The arguments fall apart when talking points are probed.

The influenza vaccine took 2 years, in 1942.

The arguments and attempted gotchas posted by skeptics generally only demonstrate ignorance of a topic
Again, more deflection that has nothing to do with what you quoted.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
Again, more deflection that has nothing to do with what you quoted.
It's not deflection. But, I'm not sure what your point is other than you feel I'm deflecting from something?

No vaccines are 100% effective.

Politicians and media lie.

Many people stop reading at headlines.


The above all appear to be facts.
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