That show is more juice propaganda to push the dregs of society. All by design

How does that interview "push the dregs of society"? It's rather a cautionary tale on childhood abuse, and how that leads people to effectively choose to ruin their lives.

The point of posting it ITT was to ask why some Miscers glorify prostitution. Whereas interviews like these do anything but.

Seriously explain to me the difference between a prostitute and a woman marrying a man who has a good job?

I knowww.. youre gonna say the guy does x so hes high value and thats what attracts the woman

But bottom line is.... does having said x mean she suddenly finds you attractive?

Same guy lives in the woods vs. Same guy lives as a corporate lawyer in nyc... is the difference in attractiveness simply what the latter guy has?

I think its more honest tbh... im not sure its good for sloots psyche. But then again that would seem to imply that womens self-worth is based on the illusion of not being a whore

I suppose the best solution is to simply state that relationships are transactional and thats the way it is to remove the stigma

But honestly.. i feel like your avg. Tinder ho sleeping with 20 guys under the illusion theyre not and then sucking in some beta under that same illusion as worse

For prostitution, im not really sure who is under the same illusion.

Do you really not believe that genuine attraction exists? That relationships are only transactional? I.e., women want men for money, men want women for their sex appeal? That's how your post is written.

I wanted you to answer the questions directly because i knew you could twist it into something like this

I think it can develop...but again, at the beginning its prob based off some perceived thing they can gain

And im not saying men are innocent, but i dont typically think about men

Id say typically for either party they think they can gain something by being with this person so is it really not non-transactional? No matter what that transacation is.. theres some reason to move from point a to point b

Again, explain to me the difference between a prostitute and a girl marrying a guy because he has a good job?

The fact that it's illegal makes no sense since porn and onlyfans are legal.

May as well be normalized if other seedy vices are allowed.

Why are you focusing on legality, illegality?

NYC doesn't even prosecute prostitutes/johns any more - just traffickers. Or where you live does tryst dot link not work?

i mean if all you value is sex, then sure there isn't much difference except a lasting contract.

But people enter relationships and marriage for more than just money/their spouse's job. or at least in an ideal world. So unless the woman is a straight up golddigger, there is a difference.

Id like to believe it.. but im not sure its true

Im not really trying to make anyone mad.

What about the difference between you and any other bloke going after your woman? Why were you chosen over another guy?

If it reduces mass shootings then i'm for it..

You can believe what you want, that's your choice. not mad lol, just discussing.

IDK what made any of my ex's pick me over their other suitors, i can tell you it absolutely was not money, and while most agree i'm a decent looking guy I'm self aware enough to know that I'm not the best looking dude they had at the time to choose from, both in face or physique.

If you purely look at it from a money vs sex standpoint, then yeah any relationship is financially transactional to some degree and could be compared. But people have more to offer than just money or sex, whether it's lifestyle, emotional support, adventure, etc. or in some more toxic cases, emotional instability, constant dopamine reward system from push/pull behavior, etc. Most every girl I've been with that was someone I cared even remotely about has always told me how good of a listener I am, how much more depth I offer than most, how I'm not at all what i seemed at first because they first thought I was a standoffish azzhole (which I am to people I don't know)

IMO money is probably the lowest driving factor for sex when it comes to most people. I think true golddiggers are really an exception rather than the rule, though that discrepancy is lessening every day with social media constantly hammering into people that they need to keep up with the joneses and have the nicest vacations/possessions

1. You think at the beginning two consenting adults get together "off some perceived thing they can gain". This is called "banging each other's brains out / companionship"

2. That can develop into something more, but if you think that 1) only happens when money is involved you're just wrong.

3. You twisted your own question, actually. You should be asking "what's the difference between a prostitute and a married woman" since you think women can't be attracted to men without the man having money (which violates the Misc logic that only chads bang all the women). But since you twist it to compare a prostitute with a "girl marrying a guy because he has a good job"...the married woman is having sex with one guy, and may have his kids, whereas the prostitute is using johns / tricks to get paid.

How you can compare prostitution to a woman being married men is just...what? I feel an ocean of pity for you, srs, if the women you describe are all you have known.

It's over for OP. Landlords are cracking down in NYC, he's gonna lose his basement studio in Brooklyn. Now he's making threads about pros.

Time to give up OP, you are through in life

I listened to soft white underbelly a few times. One of those was this prostitute named Frenchie. Didn't seem like typical escort and i listened to the whole thing. She had some interesting stories.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v-vAFzh1t4

She spends the first few minutes detailing how she effectively had an absentee father and daddy issues. I'm not sure about her delusional "sex artist" claim.

If you had a daughter: would you be happy if she turned out as Frenchie did?

It probably does, but I'm not convinced. I wonder how good it can possibly feel to bang a woman who is only banging you because you hand her a stack of bills (first).

For a normal guy with plenty of sexual experience, prostitution isn't that appealing. It's typically a step down from a good experience with a women.

But the type of person who uses prostitutes regularly likely isn't getting that experience.

But one good thing about prostitution is that it allows guys to have experiences with BPD/NPD type of crazy girls(who are by far the most fun to have sex with) without actually spending enough time with them to see the crazy side.

There’s a lot of truth to this.

A GOAT miscer, TheAdlerian, often commented that modern day western women are basically whores.

Now, such a statement can elicit a strong reaction along the lines of “YOU CAN’T SAY ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!!”, but TheAdlerian never meant it in such a concrete fashion. His point was that, generally speaking, modern women are often raised with a whorish mindset, because that’s what society encourages.

He also commented that one positive thing about sex work is that it is VERY honest, whereas countless relationships have a certain amount of delusion going on surrounding love and why two people are actually together and so forth.

As for the OP, glorifying prostitution is a strange mindset. There’s no harm in extolling the virtues of it (and there are some), but “glorifying” to my mind suggests trying to make it sound better than it actually is.

Having said that, the overall tendency is to “look down on it”, so glorifying it might happen as a response to that.

Bro even the "free" ones you've slept with are prostituting themselves. Women always use sex for something in return from you. Always. Even in a relationship do you think a marriage is a benefit to you? F*ck no. All of your resources then become hers. She used sex to get you there and is really the only one gaining something by marrying. You can say "hurr durr children" but that's cope. Last I checked bitches get pregnant without a ceremony that legally binds all of your resources to her.

Sorry to tell you but all your wives are f*cking prostitutes too. All we're really talking about is the different kinds of prostitutes that exist. Ones that are upfront about it and ones that hide behind a veil of love and caring for you.

The miscers who think there is a difference are the ones who never really learned the true nature of women.

And of course that doesn't mean don't marry women. It;s just who they are and the dynamics at play between genders. There's no right or wrong. Those of you thinking women aren't using sex to improve their lives or that there's some equal trade occurring in the sex itself are just vastly uninformed. This isn't a f*cking Disney movie. It's real life and this is how it's always worked.

Because it seems hypocritical to me. And the entire country isn't based in NYC.



As for glorifying it, I don't think many people actually glorify it. It's still generally seen as a forty thing, just like drug use.

You can get hookers pretty much anywhere in the US. But in most places they're absolute trash.

You can get weed anywhere too, but that doesn't mean it's legal everywhere.

Yeah, but even in conservative areas it's ultimately just sex. Yes it's "illegal". but in terms of actual crimes it's pretty low on the priority list for even the most conservative of municipalities. The only way you're getting caught is in a police sting operation and they aren't doing those very often.

What does any of that have to do with my points though?

As for your point, it is still illegal and thus underground. There's a reason we don't have brothels while other countries do.

OP will try and convince you prostitution is pathetic. What you should really do is settle down and marry. Clearly that transaction is working out for modern day men.

I'm beginning to think it's not just that they "aren't getting that experience", it's that they've never had it. And I can only pity men who have never felt that the woman they are about to have sex with is sopping wet, and can't wait to be mounted by them for repeated orgasms and a weekend long fu*kfest. Like, did these folks not go to college? The goalposts are shifted so weirdly by some posters who basically assume "women want your money", and they fail to realize that there are plenty of women who outearn them - and in that instance want nothing to do with them for a variety of reasons including that."NYC" wasn't my point - it was an example. Folks jump to legalization when the thread was about glorification.

On legalization: I'm for it, but then there are the controls that come with it (e.g., in Germany mandatory STD testing and they have to pay tax on their income). "Legalization" isn't just about getting one's dick wet for money; it's about the rights of human beings who engage in that line of sex work.

How is there any truth to "modern day western women are basically whores"? Stating something to be the case doesn't make it true; all it shows is that posters who believe it consort with women who are compelled to do that. You...are aware...that there are plenty of women in the western world who are: (i) better educated than you; and (ii) earn more than you, right? Or is the excuse now that "men aren't "needed" because women have jobs" - and then...somehow they are simultaneously whores?

The equivocating in the whoremaxxer position is bizarre, to say the least.

the world would be better without OP.

I'm guessing the ones glorifying it just plain don't like women.