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post 1697671953 02-10-2024, 12:30 PM
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Biden is furious @ AG Garland over Hur report and for not prosecuting Trump sooner

Joe Biden has told aides and outside advisers that Attorney General Merrick Garland did not do enough to rein in a special counsel report stating that the president had diminished mental faculties, according to two people close to the president, as White House frustration with the head of the Justice Department grows.

The report from special counsel Robert Hur ultimately cleared Biden of any charges stemming from his handling of classified documents that were found at Biden’s think tank and his home. But Hur’s explanation for not bringing charges — that Biden would have persuaded the jury that he was a forgetful old man — upended the presidential campaign and infuriated the White House.

Biden and his closest advisers believe Hur went well beyond his purview and was gratuitous and misleading in his descriptions, according to those two people, who were granted anonymity to speak freely. And they put part of the blame on Garland, who they say should have demanded edits to Hur’s report, including around the descriptions of Biden’s faltering memory.

In White House meetings, aides have questioned why Garland felt the need to appoint a special counsel in the first place, though Biden has publicly said he supported the decision.

While Biden himself has not weighed in on Garland’s future, most of the president’s senior advisers do not believe that the attorney general would remain in his post for a possible second term, according to the two people.

“This has been building for a while,” said one of those people. “No one is happy”

Frustration within the White House at Garland has been growing steadily.

Last year, Biden privately denounced how long the probe into his son was taking, telling aides and outside allies that he believed the stress could send Hunter Biden spiraling back into addiction, according to the same two people. And the elder Biden, the people said, told those confidants that Garland should not have eventually empowered a special counsel to look into his son, believing that he again was caving to outside pressure.

In recent weeks, President Biden has grumbled to aides and advisers that had Garland moved sooner in his investigation into former President Donald Trump’s election interference, a trial may already be underway or even have concluded, according to two people granted anonymity to discuss private matters. That trial still could take place before the election and much of the delay is owed not to Garland but to deliberate resistance put up by the former president and his team.

A spokesperson for the Department of Justice declined to comment. But one former senior Justice Department official noted that some of the frustrations being directed at Garland are better directed toward the White House. The president’s team had the option to exert executive privilege over elements of Hur’s report but declined to do so. And had Garland made edits to the report, he would have had to explain those redactions to Congress.

Beyond that, Garland felt the need to appoint a special counsel in the classified documents case in part because the president’s team bungled when the first documents were discovered.

“The way in which the White House story kept changing at the outset made it much more difficult for the Justice Department to resist having a special counsel,” said the former official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “Had there been a very clear story at the beginning, it would have been easier.”

Biden picked Garland as his attorney general with the stated desire to restore a semblance of independence at the Department of Justice that he and others believed was lost under Donald Trump. He announced the nomination the day after the Jan. 6 attacks at the Capital — a backdrop that Biden offered up as proof that someone of Garland’s stature and temperament was needed in the post.

“Your loyalty is not to me,” Biden said. “You won’t work for me. You are not the president or the vice president’s lawyer.”

Democrats close to Biden fear Garland has become too consumed by that instruction to appear impartial.

“What Democrats do is they bend over backwards not to look partisan, and then they end up hiring people that are partisan but in the other direction,” said a Biden donor, granted anonymity to speak freely about the top law enforcement official in the country. “There’s no question in my mind that the villain here is Merrick Garland.”

But others say Garland has done a commendable job balancing out extremely thorny legal and political matters while maintaining the DOJ’s credibility.
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Tough chit, Turnip Brain.
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post 1697672883 02-10-2024, 12:50 PM
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post 1697672933 02-10-2024, 12:51 PM
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Democrats:
We want to appear impartial and above board.

Also Democrats:
Had we known we were going to get an impartial and aboveboard result we would have never gone with this!
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post 1697672993 02-10-2024, 12:53 PM
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According to the Sillies of the R/P this is perfectly acceptable behavior in a president. But holding a glass of water with two hands is grounds for impeachment. And they wonder why nobody likes them.
post 1697673413 02-10-2024, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
According to the Sillies of the R/P this is perfectly acceptable behavior in a president. But holding a glass of water with two hands is grounds for impeachment. And they wonder why nobody likes them.
In all fairness, Trump's trial for his attempts at overthrowing the 2020 election should happen before the election, so the people can make a choice whether they want a convicted felon in office or not, so along those lines, Biden is absolutely correct.


The courts took only nine days last year to overturn Judge Cannon from protecting Trump, and due to the gravity of the circumstances, the same speed should be applied to this case, but the cuckservatives have the judicial system rigged, and are obstructing justice.


Garland simply isn't doing his job, by allowing Trump to obstruct so he can maybe pardon himself if he wins, which he won't.


Trump is going to have to deal with his problems at some point. Before or after the election. They will still be there.
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post 1697673603 02-10-2024, 01:09 PM
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Translation;
Biden, “how dare you not prosecute my main political rival for doing the exact same thing I did and got away with it”
Libs, “I know right! Orange man bad!!!
post 1697675563 02-10-2024, 02:06 PM
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Is Biden capable of getting furious?
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post 1697675863 02-10-2024, 02:12 PM
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This is basically Biden playing the victim... all while the special counsel refused to press charges over a far more egregious violation of classified records than Trump is accused of. It's the classic-- "look over here, not over here."
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77
This is basically Biden playing the victim... all while the special counsel refused to press charges over a far more egregious violation of classified records than Trump is accused of. It's the classic-- "look over here, not over here."
Democrats, they're the good guys according to the media, but you're a bad guy if you do what they do and not a democrat.
post 1697676173 02-10-2024, 02:18 PM
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So which one is it? Does Biden want Hur to charge him with the crime or not charge him with the crime because he’d be able to persuade the jury for being too old and a forgetful old man?
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77
This is basically Biden playing the victim... all while the special counsel refused to press charges over a far more egregious violation of classified records than Trump is accused of. It's the classic-- "look over here, not over here."
You read this over at the Conservative Treehouse?


Sundance still brainwashing you? lmao.
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post 1697676763 02-10-2024, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
You read this over at the Conservative Treehouse?


Sundance still brainwashing you? lmao.
Isn't conservativetreehouse that conservative site started by hugely successful intellectuals who were fed up with modern academia's liberal slant?

Oh that's right, it's run by a couple of high school drop outs who used to work in a video store...lol
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post 1697676783 02-10-2024, 02:28 PM
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Brb....Trumps an authoritarian and a threat to democracy.
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post 1697677423 02-10-2024, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77
This is basically Biden playing the victim... all while the special counsel refused to press charges over a far more egregious violation of classified records than Trump is accused of. It's the classic-- "look over here, not over here."
I haven't followed the Biden docs investigation closely, but I appreciated your takes on the Russia hoax. Can you give me a little breakdown of why you think it was more egregious? I clearly think that it is completely unfair to charge trump with 31 counts of "willful retention" for each document and let Biden slide.
What are you on about mate?
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Originally Posted By OrdoAbchao
I haven't followed the Biden docs investigation closely, but I appreciated your takes on the Russia hoax. Can you give me a little breakdown of why you think it was more egregious? I clearly think that it is completely unfair to charge trump with 31 counts of "willful retention" for each document and let Biden slide.
It's quite simple, really.


Biden didn't "willfully retain" the documents, unlike Drumpf.


Understand now?
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post 1697678003 02-10-2024, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Is Biden capable of getting furious?
He was capable of plowing his teenage daughter in the shower
post 1697678183 02-10-2024, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It's quite simple, really.


Biden didn't "willfully retain" the documents, unlike Drumpf.


Understand now?
Cooperating with the investigation is secondary to the crime itself. If a guy robs a bank and gets caught do the police drop the charges if he cooperates with the investigation and gives the money back? Lol no. Cuck
post 1697678343 02-10-2024, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By AlfBundy
Cooperating with the investigation is secondary to the crime itself. If a guy robs a bank and gets caught do the police drop the charges if he cooperates with the investigation and gives the money back? Lol no. Cuck
Strong analogy lmao.


Fuking IQ of piss.
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post 1697678453 02-10-2024, 03:16 PM
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lmao what a fuking clown
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post 1697678483 02-10-2024, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Strong analogy lmao.


Fuking IQ of piss.
Ok I'll break it down into simpler terms you can understand

Spoiler!


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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Is Biden capable of getting furious?
He played the Angry Old Man role a few times during that disastrous "press conference" a few days ago...
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It's quite simple, really.

Biden didn't "willfully retain" the documents, unlike Drumpf.

Understand now?
Why the need to lie? (Well, other than that's the only way to "defend" Biden's lies and crimes).
Biden "willfully retained" illegally stolen classified documents forDECADES. A US Senator has zero authority to remove classified documents from secure facilities, Senator Biden did. A US Vice President has zero authority to remove classified documents from secure facilities, Vice President Biden did.
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He said I will only run for 1 term and he said I will not interfere with DOJ, in any way.
Please stop putting faith in people who will disappoint you. It is the definition of insanity.

They don't work for you.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Why the need to lie? (Well, other than that's the only way to "defend" Biden's lies and crimes).
Biden "willfully retained" illegally stolen classified documents forDECADES. A US Senator has zero authority to remove classified documents from secure facilities, Senator Biden did. A US Vice President has zero authority to remove classified documents from secure facilities, Vice President Biden did.
There were a handful of documents that were found, most likely due to staff, laying around of couple of Biden's homes, which when discovered, were returned to the proper authorities.


Trump, on the other hand, willing took documents for nefarious reasons, and refused to give them back when it was discovered they were missing.


This is why Jack Smith is prosecuting Trump, and will most likely win when justice is allowed to take place. Trump can only obstruct so long.
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post 1697680503 02-10-2024, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It's (D)ifferent when a democrat does it!
Every single time.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It's quite simple, really.


Biden didn't "willfully retain" the documents, unlike Drumpf.


Understand now?
If Trump had just given everything back when asked and completely he probably would have been let off the hook.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
If Trump had just given everything back when asked and completely he probably would have been let off the hook.
I was going to include this as well, but all the qanons would reply with some retarded "(D)urrr, DEEEEEE different".
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
I was going to include this as well, but all the qanons would reply with some retarded "(D)urrr, DEEEEEE different".
They're saying he told people to lie about the conditions of storage, which if true would imply consciousness of guilt and criminal intent.

Unfortunately, he was very cagey about what he returned and when...didn't give it all back even when subpoenaed...and well, here we are. Bunch of charges.

If he had said oops, sorry about that come get all this stuff...and actually gave it up, then he probably would have gotten some report saying something unflattering and that would have been the end of it.

Now, if he doesn't get elected idk how this turns out well for him.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
They're saying he told people to lie about the conditions of storage, which if true would imply consciousness of guilt and criminal intent.

Unfortunately, he was very cagey about what he returned and when...didn't give it all back even when subpoenaed...and well, here we are. Bunch of charges.

If he had said oops, sorry about that come get all this stuff...and actually gave it up, then he probably would have gotten some report saying something unflattering and that would have been the end of it.

Now, if he doesn't get elected idk how this turns out well for him.
If he doesn't get elected, he's screwed.


Honestly, the idea of him being able to pardon himself, after clearly breaking the law, is ridiculous.
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