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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Here you are, boomer.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/202...tlook-2024.pdf
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/...gdp-7-trillion
Where, exactly, do either of those say that Illegal Immigrants will increase GDP by $7 Trillion?

The first link, Page 3, shows long-term 2% annual GDP increase, which is in line with historical averages and hardly the 26% GDP increase you claimed.

Oh, and then in the second link we see the claim is actually over the period of adecade, and that it includesall immigration.

And here's a great quote from your second link: "To be sure, many rational voices - even those of conventional economists - have come out to challenge these ludicrous assumptions and conclusions..."

Gotta hand it to you, when you lie and deflect, you go all the way
You literally made a baseless claim, then "proved" it with an article and analysis that called it out as "propaganda".
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I remember when the taxes from legalizing weed was going to make Colorado pave the streets with gold and give everyone including illegals UBI, healthcare, free college, free preschool, everything. Lol. Yay Hickenlooper!!!! No human is illegal!11!111!
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After Abbott gets done bussing all the illegals to NY and CO and other liberal chitholes, first thing Trump should do is declare amnesty.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Where, exactly, do either of those say that Illegal Immigrants will increase GDP by $7 Trillion?

The first link, Page 3, shows long-term 2% annual GDP increase, which is in line with historical averages and hardly the 26% GDP increase you claimed.

Oh, and then in the second link we see the claim is actually over the period of adecade, and that it includesall immigration.

And here's a great quote from your second link: "To be sure, many rational voices - even those of conventional economists - have come out to challenge these ludicrous assumptions and conclusions..."

Gotta hand it to you, when you lie and deflect, you go all the way
You literally made a baseless claim, then "proved" it with an article and analysis that called it out as "propaganda".
well thats because they are not a "economic boon", and opGenesis is a retard

there is no surplus with the migrants, because they are a net negative. They make everything worse, worse services, worse schools, worse neighborhoods, lower wages.

Its just low IQ 3rd worlders turning America into a big favela, anyone can observe that just by going into these areas where there is a large population of them, they are occupying formerly White areas and have turned them into big ****holes.

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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Where, exactly, do either of those say that Illegal Immigrants will increase GDP by $7 Trillion?

The first link, Page 3, shows long-term 2% annual GDP increase, which is in line with historical averages and hardly the 26% GDP increase you claimed.

Oh, and then in the second link we see the claim is actually over the period of adecade, and that it includesall immigration.

And here's a great quote from your second link: "To be sure, many rational voices - even those of conventional economists - have come out to challenge these ludicrous assumptions and conclusions..."

Gotta hand it to you, when you lie and deflect, you go all the way
You literally made a baseless claim, then "proved" it with an article and analysis that called it out as "propaganda".
I'm convinced you are legit retarded, and lack the basic amount of reading comprehension to engage in these discussions LMAO.


RE-READ WHAT I WROTE.


CBO


CBO



CBOOOOOOOOO


Immigration to Boost US GDP by $7 Trillion Over Decade, CBO Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ecade-cbo-says



Are you this fuking retarded?


Fuk, I am way too intelligent for this cesspool.


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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Immigration to Boost US GDP by $7 Trillion Over Decade, CBO Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ecade-cbo-says
And you believe that too.

You've got the mayors of several major cities saying the financial drain of illegals is killing them.. Hospitals and social services all feeling the strain and begging the government for more money to help, etc... And on and on.

Millions of people with no jobs, not paying any taxes, who all have to be fed, housed, and all their medical needs taken care of. And they're going to cause a$7 TRILLIONsurplus somehow

And you believe that.

Don't you.
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Are you this fuking retarded?
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post 1697712283 02-11-2024, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And you believe that too.

You've got the mayors of several major cities saying the financial drain of illegals is killing them.. Hospitals and social services all feeling the strain and begging the government for more money to help, etc... And on and on.

But they're also going to cause a$7 TRILLIONsurplus somehow. Millions of people with no jobs, not paying any taxes, who all have to be fed, housed, and all their medical needs taken care of.

And you believe that.

Don't you.
I never said that.


I said this is what YOUR GOVERNMENT is stating.


NON PARTISAN CBO.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I never said that.


I said this is what YOUR GOVERNMENT is stating.


NON PARTISAN CBO.
Appeal to authority because you're not capable of thinking for yourself - and have no desire to because it's too hard.

You're like Benny.. The DNC puts the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA.

In before "B-b-but Trump"
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Appeal to authority because you're not capable of thinking for yourself - and have no desire to because it's too hard.

You're like Benny.. The DNC puts the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA.

In before "B-b-but Trump"
Where’s crusher?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Appeal to authority because you're not capable of thinking for yourself - and have no desire to because it's too hard.

You're like Benny..The DNC puts the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA.

In before "B-b-but Trump"
he Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is a federal agency within the legislative branch of the United States government that provides budget and economic information to Congress.[1] Inspired by California's Legislative Analyst's Office that manages the state budget in a strictlynonpartisanfashion, the CBO was created as anonpartisanagency by the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congre..._Budget_Office



NON PARTISAN


Just lol
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post 1697712613 02-11-2024, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
he Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is a federal agency within the legislative branch of the United States government that provides budget and economic information to Congress.[1] Inspired by California's Legislative Analyst's Office that manages the state budget in a strictlynonpartisanfashion, the CBO was created as anonpartisanagency by the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.[2]
Appeal to authority because you're not capable of thinking for yourself - and have no desire to because it's too hard.

You're like Benny.. The DNC puts the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA.
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
NON PARTISAN


Just lol
$7 TRILLION surplus.. from illegals.

Just LOL
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I lose
ftfy
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post 1697712763 02-11-2024, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
ftfy
Notice how you didn't prove me wrong? You just doubled down on your own stupidity lol. One more time...

Appeal to authority because you're not capable of thinking for yourself - and have no desire to because it's too hard.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Notice how you didn't prove me wrong? You just doubled down on your own stupidity lol.
I did prove you wrong, and it wasn't even that hard.

You just resort back to your constant (D) whatever the fuk, and proceed from there, which doesn't even make it that hard to win.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
CBO said these immigrants will end up adding 7 trillion to American GDP.

Yes, your government is saying this is a net positive for the economy.
Trust the government. What could go wrong?
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I did prove you wrong, and it wasn't even that hard.

You just resort back to your constant (D) whatever the fuk, and proceed from there, which doesn't even make it that hard to win.
Dude.. writing slow with a crayon time now.

They are a burden on society. A drain. They have to be fed, they have to be housed. They have to have medical care. Their kids have to go to school - and like you they do not pay taxes like the rest of us.

So the money for that has to come from somewhere - namely taxpayers (not you).

So how TF will that ever = a$7 TRILLIONsurplus? I don't give AF what your CBO says, it's not possible.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Dude.. writing slow with a crayon time now.

They are a burden on society. A drain. They have to be fed, they have to be housed. They have to have medical care. Their kids have to go to school - and like you they do not pay taxes like the rest of us.

So the money for that has to come from somewhere - namely taxpayers (not you).

So how TF will that ever = a$7 TRILLIONsurplus? I don't give AF what your CBO says, it's not possible.
Well, pal. It doesn’t matter now. The government wants them here, and claim they’ll be a positive for the economy.

And they’re here. And a million plus more will be here by the time Biden’s first term is over.

And deficits will be ran to make sure their basic needs are covered.
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post 1697713483 02-11-2024, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Well, pal. It doesn’t matter now. The government wants them here, and claim they’ll be a positive for the economy.

And they’re here. And a million plus more will be here by the time Biden’s first term is over.

And deficits will be ran to make sure their basic needs are covered.
My god... If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. JFC.

The DNC really does put the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA - and you just proved it.

"The government" = nothing but Biden to you, and whatever Biden shoots into your mouth is what you swallow without question.

And you people call us a cult... wow. Just wow.
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OMG wait....
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Well, pal. It doesn’t matter now.The government wants them here, and claim they’ll be a positive for the economy.

And they’re here. And a million plus more will be here by the time Biden’s first term is over.

And deficits will be ran to make sure their basic needs are covered.
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

What happened to your$7 TRILLIONsurplus bro? That's one big damn chunk of money - especially since we don't have one now lol.

But you went from that to.. "Oh, uh... well my gumint wants them, and.. uh I guess some deficits will be ran to cover their expenses while my gumint claims they're a positive for teh economy!"

Jesus H... wow. Just wow lol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
My god... If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. JFC.

The DNC really does put the (D) balls deep into your (D)NA - and you just proved it.

"The government" = nothing but Biden to you, and whatever Biden shoots into your mouth is what you swallow without question.

And you people call us a cult... wow. Just wow.
Biden Derangement Syndrome
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...ent%20Syndrome


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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Biden Derangement Syndrome
Strong words from the one sucking his 81yr old (D)ick bro.
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Well, pal. It doesn’t matter now. The government wants them here, and claim they’ll be a positive for the economy.

And they’re here. And a million plus more will be here by the time Biden’s first term is over.

And deficits will be ran to make sure their basic needs are covered.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Here you are, boomer.


https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/202...tlook-2024.pdf

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/...gdp-7-trillion
From Zero Hedge:
how is it not the biggest political talking point right now that since October 2019, native-born US workers have lost 1.4 million jobs; while over the same period foreign-born workers have gained 3 million jobs.
^Those are illegals taking jobs and destroying wages.

This $7 trillion, is this under the assumption that all 10m+ new illegals get work visas so they can pay tax? That would be an unprecedented amount of work visas issued. An average year is 140k work visas. I think Biden issued 500k this past year.

OR, are they adding to the GDP while most still working under the table, while exhausting government benefits?

That's not really winning to me.

Zero Hedge also acknowledges Replacement Theory is in full swing.
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From the CBO report, lower wages expected by 2034. Sounds like a sweet deal for the average American worker!
Increased net immigration is projected to affect average real wages through several channels. First, additional foreign nationals are expected to work in sectors of the economy that pay relatively low wages, thus putting downward pressure on average wages. Second, the projected increase in workers reduces the amount of capital (factories and machinery) per worker, which also puts downward pressure on average real wages. Both effects are expected to lessen over time as workers gain more skills and as additional capital is built. Third, the projected increase in total factor productivity is expected to put upward pressure on wages. That effect is expected to build slowly over time.By 2034, CBO estimates, the three effects combined will cause average real wages to be slightly lower than they would have been otherwise.
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Another doozy from the CBO report:
Net immigration is projected to slow after 2024, although it is expected to remain higher than during the 2010–2019 period.
So Biden's major damage will be done, and they are still expecting to let in the ~1.5 million illegals per year, as outlined in his border deal, which is far worse than what happened during Obama and Trump.


Edit: They are still uncertain about future net immigration.WOAH. Wait a minute. They are still uncertain about the impact illegals will have on GDP? What happened to $7 trillion???
Several factors contribute to the uncertainty of CBO’s projections of net immigration. The surge in net immigration since 2022 that CBO projects will continue through 2026 could be smaller or larger than the agency forecasts. CBO’s projection that net immigration will slow beginning in 2025 is also very uncertain. For example, changing conditions in immigrants’ countries of origin could affect the amount of immigration significantly.In addition, estimates and projections of net immigration by some groups—such as people who enter the country illegally—are particularly uncertain, as are projections of those groups’ impact on economic activity as measured by GDP and other indicators. Information about those groups can be difficult to come by.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Immigration to Boost US GDP by $7 Trillion Over Decade, CBO Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ecade-cbo-says
Immigration, the topic of the questionable CBO report, andILLEGALimmigration, the topic of this thread and the basis of your original claim, are two very different things.
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Denver's hospitals are at risk of collapse because of migrant crisis

UCHealth's chief innovation officer Dr Richard Zane told the Post that health workers want to help,but 'it's not sustainable' to keep handing out free care. 'It's a societal responsibility; it's not just a hospital responsibility,' he said. Migrants often come to the US suffering with chronic conditions which they were unable to treat on their journey to North America, and trauma from being trafficked or abused in their home countries, Dr Zane said.

Denver Health, has already plunged deep into the red after patients received $136 million in treatment they couldn't pay for, bosses warned.

Denver Health lost $2 million in 2022 - but that was substantially-reduced by a $20 million cash injection from the state. In 2022, the hospital system lost $35 million, with bosses warning of 'dire consequences' for the hospital if 2024 is as bad as the previous two. Mayor Johnston admitted his administration has also been forced to cut back on public services earlier this month.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/de...ei=16#image=10

Economic BOON!
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