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post 1698047753 02-18-2024, 07:19 PM
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Ukraine needs $486 Billion for Recovery and Reconstruction

The United Nations, European Commission, World Bank, and Government of Ukraine says they will need $486 Billion over the next 10 years for Recovery and Reconstruction.

BUT, first we need to give them another $60 Billion to keep on destroying.

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https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146562

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...nk-2024-02-15/

WASHINGTON, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Rebuilding Ukraine's economy after Russia's invasion nearly two years ago is expected to cost $486 billion, 2.8 times its 2023 expected economic output, a new study by the World Bank, United Nations, European Commission and the Ukrainian government found.

The estimate released Thursday covers the period from Russia's invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, through Dec. 31, 2023, and quantifies the direct physical damage to buildings and other infrastructure, the impact on people's lives and livelihoods and the cost to "build back better," the World Bank said.

That 10-year cost estimate is up from $411 billion last March, with housing needs topping the list at $80 billion or 17%, followed by transport needs of $74 billion or 15%, and commerce and industry at $67.5 billion, or 14%.

"The $486 billion is an unfathomably large amount, and, of course, it reflects real needs," said Arup Banerji, World Bank regional country director for Eastern Europe, although he noted that the high rate of damages seen in the first months of the war had slowed sharply.

The report said direct damages from the war had reached almost $152 billion, with losses concentrated in regions such as Donetsk, Kharkiv, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson and Kyiv.Disruptions to economic output and trade, as well as other war-related costs, such as removing debris, would likely add another $499 billion, it said.

The new estimate excludes reconstruction needs already met through the Ukraine state budget or through partners and international support.
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Black rock already buying farm land there
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
The United Nations, European Commission, World Bank, and Government of Ukraine says they will need $486 Billion over the next 10 years for Recovery and Reconstruction.

BUT, first we need to give them another $60 Billion to keep on destroying.

The Grift that Keeps on Grifting™






https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146562

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...sment-released

https://unsdg.un.org/latest/stories/...er-next-decade

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...nk-2024-02-15/
What reconstruction? there actively being conquered by Russia.
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If Hillary won in 2016, Putin would have pushed up his plans years ago and we will easily be 600 billion in the hole.

That slush fund would have financed anti American groups, etc for decades.
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I wish Russia would attack the real terrorists and wipe them off the map: Blackrock, WEF, and the UN for starters.
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Lol why'd it get destroyed in the first place, son?
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Libs be like.. "Trump's tax cuts are going to destroy us! Rage!"

And also libs... "Ukraine needs another $500 Billion."
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Makes sense for a country with a GDP of below 200 billion before the war.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
It does. The war has wiped out many years of productivity for Ukraine, Chef Boyardouche.
Yeah totally

It’s almost like the more money we spend and send the more it drags out and the higher the bill is.

We should do this forever this is great.

Pretty soon we might need to send women and children weapons. Wouldn’t want them to miss out on the fun.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
It does. The war has wiped out many years of productivity for Ukraine, Chef Boyardouche.


That would fall under the category of not our war and not our problem winny.

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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
It is literally our war. We were the ones who sabotaged the peace talks and instigated the war in Donbass as well.
And I still don't give AF.

We've hemorrhaged more than enough money to Ukraine already.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
Should have spoken up before all this then. If more Americans gave a chit about foreign policy and voted based on it, we could change things and prevent these kinds of issues. Enjoy paying out your ass for Ukraine, both directly and indirectly, for the rest of your life.
And of course it's all just empty academic queef to you because you've never had a job and don't pay taxes.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
I have a job. I have more money than I will ever need.You sound jealous. There is always the red path, comrade. I don't deserve this money. But we do not live in a proper civilization.
Right winny, you told us.. $300k annual salary.

I believe you... not.

Your deadbeat ass is probably taxpayer funded too.
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Raise your hands if you also called it.

Maybe they should start agofückyourselfgofückyourselfgofundme and see who is individually willing to donate.

The US already foots the bill for the UN's military, so maybe they could be good little bitches and help theirvaluableneighbor out instead of having us do all the spending.

Goes to show how desperately we need scores of politicians on trial one minute and hanged the next for treason. Send their fat, bloated bodies over to Ukraine to "rebuild."
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Libs be like.. "Trump's tax cuts are going to destroy us! Rage!"

And also libs... "Ukraine needs another $500 Billion."
You're starting to involve math, and math is racist.

Besides, how can the US waste its money on foreign affairs if it's also not taxing its citizens more and watching every small payment over venmo?
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Makes sense for a country with a GDP of below 200 billion before the war.
On spread but seriously good point there, and the bolded below cannot be understated:
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Yeah totally

It’s almost like the more money we spend and send the more it drags out and the higher the bill is.

We should do this forever this is great.

Pretty soon we might need to send women and children weapons. Wouldn’t want them to miss out on the fun.
Absolutely zero of the virtue signalers propping up the US's involvement are willing to address how we are perpetuating the conflict, not solving it.

US leaders turned down the possibility of peace talks, which could have put a stop to this, but again no one batted an eye about them outright calling formoredeath and destruction - that we're supposed to pay for, for some reason.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
LMFAO mad tradie is mad. It's a capitalist society bro. Just feign illness and get on disability. Why so serious? I may hate the game, but I am damn good at playing it. Cope and seethe, kid. Like I said, when you get sick of being a cuck and tired of seeing people like me coasting, there is always Xi's approach.
Fixed that right up for you winny.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
We should cut military aid. Humanitarian aid is our responsibility though since we instigated this. We are already sending women and children weapons. Maybe you don't know about Ukraine's nazi training camps for kids.
I didn’t know actually but doesn’t surprise me

I’ve known for awhile they had a large culture of Nazis receiving the funding. Where do you think Palestinians were getting the influx in weapons and supply’s from. Half the chit we send to Ukraine gets targeted at Israel so we can spend more sending to Israel.

It’s manufacturing ww3.

And you seem to not be connected with reality on how aid works, the military spending is caked in and non negotiable. It’s the real reason for the money going over, the aid is just the pr package.
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At this point, we might as well make Ukraine the 51st state...or at the very least a commonwealth.
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Same people said the US couldn't afford $9 billion for a southern border wall.
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
At this point, we might as well make Ukraine the 51st state...or at the very least a commonwealth.
Shiit.. I WISH the other US states received as much money as Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
I see your play now. The reason SC is so nazified is you think by being more nazi, you will get more funding. Hey, since the US has been the #1 backer of fascism worldwide, it makes a lot of sense. Good plan.
I thought so too.

Edit: Whoa now.. just a minnit here winny!

The dangers of ignoring Ukraine’s neo-Nazis
https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2...ines-neo-nazis

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The unit has drawn controversy over its early and allegedly continuing association with far-right groups and neo-Nazi ideology,[15] its use of controversial symbols linked to Nazism,
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Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't
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Nazis are bad!

...except for Ukrainian Nazis. We love them.. Isn't that right wincel.

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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
Did you miss the post earlier where I lamented the US arming nazis? Did you miss when I said this entire war is basically our fault because we arm nazis? Derp?
And of course you have absolutely NO problem continuingto arm nazis... isn't that right.

Wincel be like.. "I hate Nazis!"


"...except when I don't."
Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
BTW Putin's denazification claim IS real and is a large part of why he invaded.
Yeah? Then why don't you support Putin? After all, nazis are bad... right?
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
What? I do have a problem with continuing to arm Nazis.You're really profoundly stupid.

Again, I do largely support Putin's decisions regarding the war and think he is an effective leader doing what is best for Russia. Do I agree with all his methods and antidemocratic behaviors? No.

It's amazing how addled your mind is. You don't even know what you are arguing.
Then lets stop wincel.. Not one more penny to Ukraine!

What do you say winny, isn't that a great idea?
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
Of military aid? You bet.
No wincel - everything. Not another penny.
Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
But we owe them for doing this to their country. Like I said, enjoy rebuilding. For the rest of your life.
You can argue, twist, spin, and act stupid all day long winny, but... at the end of the day.

You support nazis.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
You're very low IQ. I do not support nazis. I believe we have a responsibility to help the victims of the war we started. A war your guy initiated by choosing to arm Ukraine btw.
But you want to keep giving them money wincel.

Deny it all you want, YOU support them.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
lol
How does that make itourwar?

It's the war of a bunch of crony politicians protectingtheirmoney laundering slush fund run by a deluded, wannabe dictator whose only qualifications are wearing high heels.
Originally Posted By Procta⏩
just nuke Ukraine at this point and give the parking lot to Russia
We'd be better off letting Ukraine fall and have the Russians sweep up Eurostan just to clear out all of the Muslims that took a gigantic shít on it.

That alone makes the prospects of investing in the UN and their geopolitical interests so stupid when they went out of their way to destroy their own countries in the name of libshít ideology. Now we have the same mess on our own borders that the same kind of retards refuse to deal with.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
Politicians the Americans elected. Trump chose to arm Ukraine. Biden chose to hemorrhage hundreds of billions of dollars. Own this. Americans need to start giving a chit about foreign policy.
Fixed that right up for you winny.

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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
It does. The war has wiped out many years of productivity for Ukraine, Chef Boyardouche.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation⏩
Again, why did Trump listen to Bolton, Pompeo, and friends on this? He only hires the best, right? This was their strat. Obama wisely resisted these monkeys and refused to arm Ukraine, knowing where the weapons would go.


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