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post 1698213653 02-22-2024, 11:09 AM
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Are people who appreciate art geniuses or retards?

The people who spend time in art museums and appreciate a bunch of nothing

To me personally, Spongebob mogs all those geeky "artwork"
post 1698214203 02-22-2024, 11:29 AM
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post 1698214223 02-22-2024, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans
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post 1698232233 02-22-2024, 06:59 PM
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The modern art stuff is kind of dumb but old historical artwork is pretty cool. Went to the art museum in Barcelona and it was filled with art from time periods including Roman influence, Visigoth invasion, and Moor invasion. Was neat.jpg
post 1698232953 02-22-2024, 07:21 PM
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I am an artist to some degree and find art funny.

Certainly there are some extremely talented artist whos skill should be admired.

Then there are the ones who are actually admired by the art world. they are the ones i find funny.

If an artist is really popular anymore it usually has little to do with their talent and a lot to do with the actual persons story or whatever story they make up for them.

Thats what really drives new artists sales. The actual artist doesnt get a lot of money, they are usually under contract with galleries who represent them and give them an agreed amount for their work. You can see artwork selling for millions while the artist has a tough time paying his rent.

If you want to sell stuff, have some back story for yourself and get some haters. Thats what is selling, the artwork is just an add on basically.

The people who are paying ridiculous amounts and acting like this is some sort of masterpiece are the ones i find funny. They cant be honest with themselves because they are so deep into the nonsense. They as well have an angle too because they know they can buy early at a decent price and use the same story to turn it for a big profit down the road so the whole thing is an act. They all know the other is full of it but they all keep going land acting like they arent.

It would be crazy to come out and say your childish looking fancy painting is amateurish and stupid looking. You would just reduce your potential payout.
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post 1698239613 02-22-2024, 11:23 PM
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appreciation of the arts, music, literature, and basic competence in a couple of sports as well as cooking is a basic requirement for being a well rounded individual.
post 1698239993 02-22-2024, 11:52 PM
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post 1698240093 02-23-2024, 12:00 AM
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I'm an artist. I have a degree in Medical art. A BA, I dated a woman for years who literally ran the Denver art scene. I had done many comic books... and plenty of life drawing / "FINE ART" She only wanted me to do music. I was not the next :"hot artist" after I spent hours with her going to art openings I understood why. It's a very contrived and pretentious scene. They were all doing huge paintings... pandering to the pretentious. I did far better than the most "hot artist" of the time with my music. After a few years,,, her eyes opened, She said "I'm sick of them... they are so pretentious." she was exposed to the dive bar music crew.
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I’m an amateur, but I can tell you this. I’ve spent months on paintings, carefully working on the right style, colors, etc. And then, on a random day, I’d feel something, and splatter paint all over my work. If paintings are a reflection of what you have to express, I see nothing wrong with a messy one. It might not win any awards, but it’s honest.
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Originally Posted By crupiea
I am an artist to some degree and find art funny.

Certainly there are some extremely talented artist whos skill should be admired.

Then there are the ones who are actually admired by the art world. they are the ones i find funny.

If an artist is really popular anymore it usually has little to do with their talent and a lot to do with the actual persons story or whatever story they make up for them.

Thats what really drives new artists sales. The actual artist doesnt get a lot of money, they are usually under contract with galleries who represent them and give them an agreed amount for their work. You can see artwork selling for millions while the artist has a tough time paying his rent.

If you want to sell stuff, have some back story for yourself and get some haters. Thats what is selling, the artwork is just an add on basically.

The people who are paying ridiculous amounts and acting like this is some sort of masterpiece are the ones i find funny. They cant be honest with themselves because they are so deep into the nonsense. They as well have an angle too because they know they can buy early at a decent price and use the same story to turn it for a big profit down the road so the whole thing is an act. They all know the other is full of it but they all keep going land acting like they arent.

It would be crazy to come out and say your childish looking fancy painting is amateurish and stupid looking. You would just reduce your potential payout.
I was always hoping you’d post some of your work
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post 1698240783 02-23-2024, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted By crupiea
I am an artist to some degree and find art funny.

Certainly there are some extremely talented artist whos skill should be admired.

Then there are the ones who are actually admired by the art world. they are the ones i find funny.

If an artist is really popular anymore it usually has little to do with their talent and a lot to do with the actual persons story or whatever story they make up for them.

Thats what really drives new artists sales. The actual artist doesnt get a lot of money, they are usually under contract with galleries who represent them and give them an agreed amount for their work. You can see artwork selling for millions while the artist has a tough time paying his rent.

If you want to sell stuff, have some back story for yourself and get some haters. Thats what is selling, the artwork is just an add on basically.

The people who are paying ridiculous amounts and acting like this is some sort of masterpiece are the ones i find funny. They cant be honest with themselves because they are so deep into the nonsense. They as well have an angle too because they know they can buy early at a decent price and use the same story to turn it for a big profit down the road so the whole thing is an act. They all know the other is full of it but they all keep going land acting like they arent.

It would be crazy to come out and say your childish looking fancy painting is amateurish and stupid looking. You would just reduce your potential payout.
Story could be interpreted as history and context. Guernica might not have made much of an impact if it wasn’t for the Spanish civil war, bombings, politics of the time, etc.
post 1698242013 02-23-2024, 02:06 AM
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Modern art is garbage, abstract art is trash too. Modern artists ran out of ideas and just started creating stupid ideas because everything was already done from past generations
post 1698242413 02-23-2024, 02:24 AM
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I think it all depends on taste. If a person likes art, then why not. It's better than drinking or playing in a casino.
post 1698242573 02-23-2024, 02:28 AM
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Some are high IQ, most are pretentious below average kunts
post 1698243393 02-23-2024, 03:12 AM
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Depends - people who appreciate fine arts are OK with me.
Pretentious kunts who write critique on modern and abstract art are pathetic. They just don't have the balls to say the king's naked.
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Depends on what you mean by appreciate-most of us like certain painters like Constable, Lowry, Van Gogh, Picasso etc & nothing wrong with going to art galleries. The pretentious luvvies who stand in front of a painting for hours & supposedly find hidden meanings in them, while making exclamation noises & pulling silly faces of supposed enlightenment & shock are cretins.
post 1698246203 02-23-2024, 05:53 AM
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really good summary
Originally Posted By crupiea
I am an artist to some degree and find art funny.

Certainly there are some extremely talented artist whos skill should be admired.

Then there are the ones who are actually admired by the art world. they are the ones i find funny.

If an artist is really popular anymore it usually has little to do with their talent and a lot to do with the actual persons story or whatever story they make up for them.

Thats what really drives new artists sales. The actual artist doesnt get a lot of money, they are usually under contract with galleries who represent them and give them an agreed amount for their work. You can see artwork selling for millions while the artist has a tough time paying his rent.

If you want to sell stuff, have some back story for yourself and get some haters. Thats what is selling, the artwork is just an add on basically.

The people who are paying ridiculous amounts and acting like this is some sort of masterpiece are the ones i find funny. They cant be honest with themselves because they are so deep into the nonsense. They as well have an angle too because they know they can buy early at a decent price and use the same story to turn it for a big profit down the road so the whole thing is an act. They all know the other is full of it but they all keep going land acting like they arent.

It would be crazy to come out and say your childish looking fancy painting is amateurish and stupid looking. You would just reduce your potential payout.
post 1698246223 02-23-2024, 05:55 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lXLGgQjYY

that's a really good documentary that highlights how fake the entire industry is. everyone is in on it.
post 1698250013 02-23-2024, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Like I see no artistic value in this:



or this



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When it comes to architecture, I find it much easier to recognize quality there, both from a functional and aesthetic point of view. Same thing with music.
Most contemporary art is basically a color and shape study - the misunderstood cubism and minimalism for example. Most interior and product design follows the foundation of modern art experementing. Your shytty phone UI that you use and love is thanks to the foundations of minimalist modern art.


Regarding the paintings above, the first is expressionism (Pollock) second is surrealism (Dali). It is not hard to get Surrealism since it is in the name. If you want to draw a dream you will get some absurd stuff like that. It is basically a representation of the unconscious mind. Surrealism blew up basically when Freud and the theories of other psychoanalysts came into the spotlight.




Overall misc. is too retarded on this topic since it tries to compare classical art and modern art by skill.

Classical art died down when the camera came. There was no need anymore for realistic portraits, landscape and such stuff. After that came Surrealism and that abstract stuff which as I mentioned were an image based on most psychological thesis on famous psychoanalyst which were popular at the same time. For example there was a need for what a ''warped'' thought looks like.

Modern art (as in cubism, minimalism) came with the industrial revolution. Things were more affordable, people needed products that are cheap to sell but had identity. It has nothing to do with ''feelings'' of the artists.
Art is business driven by society's needs, always was.
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Originally Posted By ProSaibot
Overall misc. is too retarded on this topic since it tries to compare classical art and modern art by skill.

Classical art died down when the camera came. There was no need anymore for realistic portraits, landscape and such stuff. After that came Surrealism and that abstract stuff which as I mentioned were an image based on most psychological thesis on famous psychoanalyst which were popular at the same time. For example there was a need for what a ''warped'' thought looks like.
The Dali isn't just weird - it looks low quality.

Compare to this painting which is incredible. Amazing rendering, amazing anatomy. Same artist... hard to believe.
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