Most people are average and below average, makes no sense to follow what society says because you'll then be average or below average. Those same people looking down on you are begging for student loan forgiveness, begging for higher minimum wages, etc. Hardly anybody can afford to quit their job.

Staying home, clearing debt, and having $100k in the bank puts you 10 steps ahead of 90% of the population

I see a potential problem here.People who are living with their parents through their 20s and even early 30s are limiting themselves as far as finding someone they could settle down with.When someone lives with their parents, they are much less likely to bring people home have people over and open up their social life in a way that would lead them to finding a future wife or husband.

So they may have $100,000 in the bank by the time they are 34, but have they missed some peak years to socialize and have fun and meet people in the way that you can by having a place by yourself or by living with roommates their own age?

Then there’s the judgment they may encounter by the opposite sex for living with her parents.

Lol at being so simple minded and revolving it all around pussy. That's all this arguments come to in the end. Don't come off as a complete loser and your dating life will be nearly identical to those living on their own. Whats not being mentioned is how a ton of guys are living solo and still don't get laid LOL. Or the guys who do find a woman end up being in a sexless marriage LOL.

If you're that worried, just show the womwn you meet your bank account and let her know what you do for a living and she'll be 100% ok dating you. Hell she'll convince to move in after 6 months.

if you aren't getting any pussy, then what's the point of living on your own and paying rent?

We aren’t talking about even 20s we’re talking about 30s. Let’s say if you want to have a party or you wanna cook dinner for your date or just hang out and watch a movie. Your mom and dad are there I mean how does anyone accomplish this? These are basic social activities that people do on a weekly basis but if you’re living with your parents, I can’t see it happening.

We aren’t talking about even 20s we’re talking about 30s. Let’s say if you want to have a party or you wanna cook dinner for your date or just hang out and watch a movie. Your mom and dad are there I mean how does anyone accomplish this? These are basic social activities that people do on a weekly basis but if you’re living with your parents, I can’t see it happening.

We aren’t talking about even 20s we’re talking about 30s. Let’s say if you want to have a party or you wanna cook dinner for your date or just hang out and watch a movie. Your mom and dad are there I mean how does anyone accomplish this? These are basic social activities that people do on a weekly basis but if you’re living with your parents, I can’t see it happening.

We're debating cooking dinner for a date vs zero debt and $100k savings?

Then by all means go be a rentcel giving money to a jew master. I'd rather have zero debt and $100k cash to buy a house.

They have 'love motels' in south korea for this reason, since most people in their 20's still live at home, cause buying/renting a place is impossible there

Considering how our economy is going, we should probably start doing the same

People who say ''I get to save money'' - Yeah, sure I get this. I used to have this mindset but isn't worth your mental health in the end.

Folks who act like their boomer parents are chill af past 60 are coping. Mom and Pop past a certain age become the grumpy old stereotypical person.
It gets annoying af that both of you know you are 30 but they still try to treat you like you are a teen.

Basically parents tend to cope they aren't old when they act like their baldcel senior citizen son is still a kid. The son eventually becomes an out of touch incel or mentally ill thinking that saving a few K over the years is worth neglecting your mental growth as a person

If you live with your parents and

1) pay off all debt
2) Save $100k cash

You're at a HUGE advantage compared to 90% of the population. I'd say suck it up and make that sacrifice to leap over everybody who's debt maxed. Pussy shouldn't be much a problem if the women you meet has their own place.

Lol at being so simple minded and revolving it all around pussy. That's all this arguments come to in the end. Don't come off as a complete loser and your dating life will be nearly identical to those living on their own. Whats not being mentioned is how a ton of guys are living solo and still don't get laid LOL. Or the guys who do find a woman end up being in a sexless marriage LOL.

If you're that worried, just show the womwn you meet your bank account and let her know what you do for a living and she'll be 100% ok dating you. Hell she'll convince to move in after 6 months.

People talk about the benefits of living with family to save money, but what’s the end goal there? Is it to still eventually move out, just at a later time? Or are you advocating to just live with family until they die?

In the case of the latter, how can you realistically start a family of your own under those circumstances? (which I guess doesn’t apply it your goal is to be an lifelong bachelor)

also this. It’s not like you become sexually attractive because you have your own place. I know plenty of guys who have their own places and don’t get any.

Lol at being so simple minded and revolving it all around pussy. That's all this arguments come to in the end. Don't come off as a complete loser and your dating life will be nearly identical to those living on their own. Whats not being mentioned is how a ton of guys are living solo and still don't get laid LOL. Or the guys who do find a woman end up being in a sexless marriage LOL.

If you're that worried, just show the womwn you meet your bank account and let her know what you do for a living and she'll be 100% ok dating you. Hell she'll convince to move in after 6 months.

This entire argument is redundant. Every person has their own perspective and priorities in life.

Some people value their parents and they form a big part of their life

some people don't and can never understand that relationship so they find petty ways to discredit people who choose to live at home.

In the Dominican Republic they have what looks like garages you pull your car into and the door shuts. There are steps leading to a room with a jacuzzi and bed. Nobody sees the car so they can't go tell the wife he's cheating at the no tell motel.

One of the things I dislike about my country.

Why can't someone do both?

Regardless of what you do for a living or how much $ you saved, you will still be significantly hindered in the dating game living with parents post 30. It just becomes a logistical issue at that point .

If you have that much saved and you work a " good job" then why the fuk wouldn't you have your own place by 30 +

I am 29, married and live with my parents. We did live alone for a year in an apartment but honestly I hated it. I felt bored and confined. We moved back to my family home with my parents and I don't regret it. it's a spacious house with an actual front and back yard (I hated this about apartment living) and also in a very nice top 1% town in my country. I am close to my childhood friends and get to interact with my parents daily as they reach old age. It's nice that they know they are loved and also equally involved in mine and my wife's life. I hope to have a child in the next few years and look forward to watching my parents develop a close bond with my children and provide some purpose during their retirement.

And also provides an opportunity for me and my wife to start saving enough money that hopefully in a few years, me my wife and my parents can sell our current house and move into a bigger and better house as my family grows or we buy our own house if we feel like we need to. Right now the situation is fine but I do understand people do need their own space one day but I feel content continuing this routine until I am around 35/36 tbh.

I really never intended to growing up. I lived in a small town with not much opportunity and my grandmother spoke multiple languages and I had a few set backs. I stayed with them until my upper 20”s. My parents were cool though. I had my own area of the house and helped with bills and I could drink smoke whatever. I had planned on the army twice but coincidentally broke my ankle playing basketball both times I as signing up. Eventually met a woman and moved to another town. I prefer my own place. Had bad experiences with male roonates and women are bad with money. I go to work, the gym and to the grocery store. Game in my down time. My parents live fairly far but they have a nice house and honestly if something happens to them I’d be ok with moving ba k with them to take care of them. I know sone peoples family are strange but mobe was religious and clean. We watch sports and cook together. Now days most Americans I meet are on drugs or they steal and I prefer not to associate with people like that

Imagine the curry smells.

Maybe im wrong, but one thing I noticed is the rich make everything easy for themselves and family.

MOGGERS pay for their kid's life expenses every step of the way. Top universities, top internships, top starting salaries, the best company positions


Meanwhile average wagecel thinks moving out at 18 and going $45k in student loan debt is putting your big boy pants on. Their boss is an apparent loser kid who had everything handed to him LOL.

Someone can become rich and well off and not live at home. Not sure I really see the relationship

To me , being well off or doing well..is having enough money for your living expenses but then also having a abundance of cash for other things


People who got well off enough to make it easier for their family members probably didn't get that $ off leeching off parents in their 30s.