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post 1698620913 03-02-2024, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Some people think gay people are evil, others don't. Everybody's different
and some people use logical fallacies and are intellectually bankrupt.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
The goal is to normalize their behavior and create more gays and trannies. The more children that are around gays and trannies and are taught to believe that is normal and a good thing, the more will become gays and trannies.
I realize that's the rhetoric, but if there any evidence that's the case?

Why do trans people want to turn kids trans? I don't think there are many trans people who either agree. I could be wrong, but there's no evidence of this recruitment and no sensible motive had been presented.

Trans people want to turn kids trans and then sexually abuse them?

I just don't think that's a large scale or systemic/concerted thing attributable to an entire community.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
and some people use logical fallacies and are intellectually bankrupt.
Which fallacy?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which fallacy?
You do love to staw man a lot, for starters.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
You do love to staw man a lot, for starters.
How was my post a straw man?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I realize that's the rhetoric, but if there any evidence that's the case?

Why do trans people want to turn kids trans? I don't think there are many trans people who either agree. I could be wrong, but there's no evidence of this recruitment and no sensible motive had been presented.

Trans people want to turn kids trans and then sexually abuse them?

I just don't think that's a large scale or systemic/concerted thing attributable to an entire community.
social contagion, this has been known for quite some time.

As another MISC'r stated several years ago..


"Pe-do doesnt become decriminalized overnight, its a decades long baby step process where one day 12 year old boys are allowed to decide to chemically castrate themselves and 10 year old girls are allowed the same my body/my rights argument, until that eventual generation grows up seeing this as the norm and those disagreeing with it as the issue."

-RIKTER


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How was my post a straw man?
How was it not?

Also, I don't recall the statement being in reference to only one specific post.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Cite typically refers to referencing. I dunno how it can be possessive.
This is a logical fallacy too.

You don’t even know how to have a debate or conversation. how on Earth will you ever understand anything complex?
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
This is a logical fallacy too.

You don’t even know how to have a debate or conversation. how on Earth will you ever understand anything complex?
Which logical fallacy?

You suggested acceptance of others is evil. I suppose you consider that to be complex?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which logical fallacy?

You suggested acceptance of others is evil. I suppose you consider that to be complex?
Another logical fallacy.

Acceptance of someones perverse sexual behavior is evil.

The acceptance of the individual is quite different


To love the sinner But hate the sin is something I’m sure you’d like to mix up…as demonstrated
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Originally Posted By Paul
Another logical fallacy.

Acceptance of someones perverse sexual behavior is evil.

The acceptance of the individual is quite different


To love the sinner But hate the sin is something I’m sure you’d like to mix up…as demonstrated
I'm of the opinion that neither LGTBQ2S+ people nor relationships between consenting adults are evil.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'm of the opinion that neither LGTBQ2S+ people nor relationships between consenting adults are evil.
The person, no. The act, yes

It’s evident what the act results in
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As usual, other leftists get rekt so JShillC steps in to overwhelm thread with his trolling. Hopefully he doesn’t make people on the left look so bad that the thread gets deleted as has happened in the past.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
As usual, other leftists get rekt so JShillC steps in to overwhelm thread with his trolling. Hopefully he doesn’t make people on the left look so bad that the thread gets deleted as has happened in the past.
Weird tactic.

I don't represent the left, right, nor any other posters.

Sad that has to be stated

This is actually kind of a rare thread. With some exceptions, discussion is near the thread topic.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Weird tactic.

I don't represent the left, right, nor any other posters.

Sad that has to be stated

This is actually kind of a rare thread. With some exceptions, discussion is near the thread topic.
Weird because in the other thread you made the false assumption that because I added to your quote, such behavior is accepted & tolerated on this forum…my actions representing all..right??.

Can you explain how that instance & accusation is different, but this is not?

Thanks.

Yes..sad that this had to be stated.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Weird because in the other thread you made the false assumption that because I added to your quote, such behavior is accepted & tolerated on this forum…my actions representing all..right??.

Can you explain how that instance is different, but this is not?

Thanks.

Yes..sad that this had to be stated.
What's different is that I'll converse with you directly, support my positions, and try to refrain from name calling
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'm of the opinion that neither LGTBQ2S+ people nor relationships between consenting adults are evil.
If 1+1= 2, will it always be 2? Or can it be 5? This is an oversimplification of how a process works, but if you have a series of inputs, and they lead to an undesirable outcome, then we know that those inputs will always lead to an undesirable outcome. If identity politics historically leads to the division of a society, violence, crimes, and murder, whats the probability that it will lead to good? Would this mean that identity politics is evil?

If massive demoralization of a society, including massive increases in sexual immorality, leads to the fall of a society, is it good? If dramatic drops in population occur, and more people are engaged in homosexual behavior, leads to starvation and poverty, is that good?

If politicizing low standards and immorality, and then using the force of the government to coerce others, leads to great harm, is it good?

If the rights of one group violate the rights of the individual or another group, is that good?

If sexual immorality leads to increased sex trafficking, rape, paedofeelia, is it evil?

To explain this, we have to go back to what I said earlier. Evil processes are an idea that manifests in the world. Each individual exploits the process to his or her own self interest. If you politicize sexual identity of homosexuality etc, then indivuduals with even lower forms of immorality will take advantage. So if one step of the process leads to the next, which leads to the next, and this process leads to the same outcome again and again, is the first step good or evil? If evil is a processes that requires a first step, then that first step is also evil.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What's different is that I'll converse with you directly, support my positions, and try to refrain from name calling
Pivot
You made an accusation that my behavior was representative of the whole forum. The actions of a single representing all. When the same was accused of you, you had quite the issue with it.

Can you explain how that is different and this time stick to the actual premise of the question and support your position without another logical fallacy

Thanks
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Originally Posted By Kraken
If 1+1= 2, will it always be 2? Or can it be 5?

...
I don't feel LGTBQ2S+ is immoral.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Pivot
You made an accusation that my behavior was representative of the whole forum. The actions of a single representing all. When the same was accused of you, you had quite the issue with it.

Can you explain how that is different and this time stick to the actual premise of the question and support your position without another logical fallacy

Thanks
I didn't say the whole forum.

But, you'll notice nobody called you psuedo intellectually dishonest despite the tactic

Also, which specific logical fallacy? It seems some are using it as a blanket/general term.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I didn't say the whole forum.
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oh..so what does "...'round here" refer to if not the forum itself?
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Well, that's clearly false.

Changing someone's words in a quote does not a fact make.

It might be considered intellectually honest here, but the misc has its own definition and narrative that differ markedly from fact for many things
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I guess fake quotes are now considered honest 'round here.

Nice.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I realize that's the rhetoric, but if there any evidence that's the case?

Why do trans people want to turn kids trans? I don't think there are many trans people who either agree. I could be wrong, but there's no evidence of this recruitment and no sensible motive had been presented.

Trans people want to turn kids trans and then sexually abuse them?

I just don't think that's a large scale or systemic/concerted thing attributable to an entire community.
WTF? When I see posts like this I almost think you have to be trolling. But then I see your other posts and I realize that you are not.

Understand that trans and gays and any other alphabet letter person bases their entire existence on their sexuality. That is why you see them protesting, supporting, demanding. Dancing and talking suggestively in front of kids.

It is THEIR ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND REASON FOR LIVING.

Normal people? And by normal I mean normal everyday straight people? Do not protest. Support. Or demand anything for their sexuality.

Why? Because it is the same as if you did that to breathe. Or eat. Or drink. It is nothing. Just a part of life.

So when you say something like why do trans people want to turn children trans? That is because they are sexual deviants. Their entire reality revolves around sex. And the more sex and the more kink it is for them? The more they like it.

Cmon mannnnnnn.
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion
Funny that people engage with troll liberal agitators from reddit for thousands of posts. LMAO.
fraudy is the male silence speaks.
even though silence speaks is really a dude.
but op has the test of a female so i think it balances out.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
WTF? When I see posts like this I almost think you have to be trolling. But then I see your other posts and I realize that you are not.

Understand that trans and gays and any other alphabet letter person bases their entire existence on their sexuality. That is why you see them protesting, supporting, demanding. Dancing and talking suggestively in front of kids.

It is THEIR ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND REASON FOR LIVING.

Normal people? And by normal I mean normal everyday straight people? Do not protest. Support. Or demand anything for their sexuality.

Why? Because it is the same as if you did that to breathe. Or eat. Or drink. It is nothing. Just a part of life.

So when you say something like why do trans people want to turn children trans? That is because they are sexual deviants. Their entire reality revolves around sex. And the more sex and the more kink it is for them? The more they like it.

Cmon mannnnnnn.
It's just untrue.

There are plenty of LGTBQ2S+ people who don't protest professionally and instead do what they can to lead normal lives.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I don't feel LGTBQ2S+ is immoral.
Another logical fallacy.

Every. Damn. Time.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's just untrue.

There are plenty of LGTBQ2S+ people who don't protest professionally and instead do what they can to lead normal lives.
You can't say "it's just untrue" without offering any proof otherwise.

The ONLY people in this world that parade, dance, gyrate, and make a spectacle of their sexuality are the alphabet community. They literally make their entire lives about S E X.

And as a subset the pro abortion crowd. Which also deals with sex.

Normal everyday straight people? Do not do any of that. They just live their normal lives without saying anything publicly about their sexuality. The ONLY people I could say that do anything even close are swingers, and even they keep things private. They are not on social media demanding that society respects them for their perversions.

Meanwhile the alphabet community has gone from wanting to have people accept people to be gay, to demanding gay marriage, to trying to turn kids a different gender or demanding to have adults wearing sexually provocative outfits in front of children. I live north of Los Angeles. I see the MSM demanding of this and the 5% of actual LGTQXX people demanding of this.

The thing is, even here in CA? Most people think it is ridiculous. But right now you, and by you I mean YOU and your sexually deviant friends, have the MSM and the left wing govt on your side.

But that will change. The Man in the High Castle is coming.....
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
You can't say "it's just untrue" without offering any proof otherwise.

The ONLY people in this world that parade, dance, gyrate, and make a spectacle of their sexuality are the alphabet community. They literally make their entire lives about S E X.

And as a subset the pro abortion crowd. Which also deals with sex.

Normal everyday straight people? Do not do any of that. They just live their normal lives without saying anything publicly about their sexuality. The ONLY people I could say that do anything even close are swingers, and even they keep things private. They are not on social media demanding that society respects them for their perversions.

Meanwhile the alphabet community has gone from wanting to have people accept people to be gay, to demanding gay marriage, to trying to turn kids a different gender or demanding to have adults wearing sexually provocative outfits in front of children. I live north of Los Angeles. I see the MSM demanding of this and the 5% of actual LGTQXX people demanding of this.

The thing is, even here in CA? Most people think it is ridiculous. But right now you, and by you I mean YOU and your sexually deviant friends, have the MSM and the left wing govt on your side.

But that will change. The Man in the High Castle is coming.....
Some straight people attend protests as well.

The claim that all members of the LGTBQ2S+ community are overly sexual, constantly protesting, child groomers is what needs some support.

The claim is easily countered by knowing one gay person who doesn't do that. It's amazing what awareness can do to reduce phobias
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I don't feel LGTBQ2S+ is immoral.
Well AIDS, Herpes and Monkeypox doesn't care about your feels.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well AIDS, Herpes and Monkeypox doesn't care about your feels.
remember when monkey pox was the new plague?
but only gays and pets were getting it and now they don't report on it anymore.

so weird.

just like stop Asian hate.
again, so weird.
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