i was talking spoonfulls to the dome and i barely felt anything. im gonna continue to look for something to do the job but im not gonna keep wasting my money if i dont find something after a few more strains

Nice. yeah theres a lot of vendors people have issues with, but these guys have done be right 110% of the time. Always give a bonus/throw in extras, and one time the shipment got damaged so they sent replacement no problem. Been using them since 2017, even after they split with herbal-salvation. Zero complaints, hope you like it.

Just read a lot of google posts about how to "toss and wash", some people fuk it up and do "the dragon" coughing. But its pretty easy, and I rarely even taste it (not a world ender if you do).

Start low, like 1-2 grams, and it may take 2 hours to work, don't take too much and redose, or you may feel nauseous from too much and get woozy. I normally take 2 grams every 3-7 hours, pretty much the same as caffeine













I mean, how high is your tolerance? how many grams powder were you trying and for how long?

Maybe for some people the stuff doesn't work (every drug has some people who it doesn't affect too) everyones different

I use to take Kratom and Phenibut together because it was a recommended combo I read about on some website, but I didn't feel much from it. I didn't feel any euphoria or anything like that.

I read about it awhile back but never did a deep dive, and remembered people saying it can be very relaxing/calming. I don't drink anymore and so wanted to give it a shot. When I got back I reddited it and watched some youtube videos before taking it.

Best/strongest Kratom is the OPMS Black or Gold capsules (i think the black is stronger). Great euphoria and kind of a coke-like high. No real negative effects for me except the stomach issues, which is actually why I stopped taking it. Like actual opiates, quality Kratom slows down your digestive system, causes constipation, and really bad gas. It creeps up on you and it feels great at first, eliminates IBS temporarily, but when the kratom wears off you're screwed. If they could fix the gastrointestinal side effects, I would go back to using it.

Made me constipated really bad couple times and the effect is a hit or miss

It’s not just like caffiene it has opiod properties

After reading how hard it is for people to get off of them fuk that

Yeah whoever said it's like coffee is an idiot. High end kratom, like OPMS brand, is legit a drug. A feel good drug that afaik won't harm or kill you. But the constipation (as you get with opioids) is really annoying. I might take it 1-2x a month but I used to take it daily and had to stop that within 2-3 weeks.

A lot of people use it to quit opiods.


And I just remembered how a lot of people quit drinking alcohol because of it. They say their cravings to drink drop to nothing because of kratom.



Its decent stuff, doing good in the world, which is why 2 massive groups are trying to ban it because tis cutting into their profits. Can't be helping people stop buying their vices, now can we?

Thats retarded and not true for a normal person.


So many people have quit for months, not a single craving or withdrawal. maybe for people who are doing INSANE doses, like 30 times a normal dose, will have issues, just don't be a fukkin retard and take heroic doses.

its like asking a caffeine addict who drinks 10 liters of pepei a day (plus popping 200mg caffeine pills) if its difficult to quit, or course they get caffeine withdrawal.

But that guy who only drinks 4 cans a day, won't feel chit if they quit.

Use some common sense here.






I wouldn't even mess with bling blang flashy shit like gas station stuff. who KNOWS whats in those. I know a lot of people bought gas station BigDickPills, because they actually contained viagra. So these probably have actual illegal drugs in them.


I'd stick to legitimate and well known brands, not that VERY EXPENSIVE blingy nonsense...

SRS

For some reason it took a long time to kick in, like 2.5 hours? I ended up taking more than I should have. about 4-5gs of green and around the same of the red. Overall it was a great feeling, but I had too much of a good thing and I understand how it can be addictive now. Will try a normal dose later today or maybe tomorrow and be patient

Hey there,

I'm glad you brought up this topic because it's something I've been diving into recently myself. As an experienced kratom user who's embarking on a fitness journey, I can share some insights based on my personal experience.

First off, let me tell you that incorporating kratom into my fitness routine has been a game-changer. Kratom's energizing effects have helped me power through intense workouts, whether it's lifting weights, cardio, or even yoga sessions "Do not recommend Hot Yogo though. It gives me that extra boost of motivation and focus, which has been invaluable, especially on those days when I'm feeling a bit sluggish or I just don't want to hop in the car.

One thing I've learned is the importance of dosage and timing. I've found that taking a smaller dose of kratom about 30 minutes before my workout works best for me. It gives me the energy and mental clarity I need to push through my routine without feeling jittery or overstimulated.

Another aspect I've noticed is kratom's potential to aid in recovery. After a tough workout, I sometimes experience muscle soreness and fatigue. I've found that kratom's analgesic properties can help alleviate some of that discomfort, allowing me to recover faster and get back to training sooner I normally would take a larger dose before bedtime.

Of course, it's essential to listen to your body and adjust your kratom usage accordingly. Everyone's physiology is different, so what works for me may not necessarily work for you. It's also crucial to stay hydrated and nourished, especially when combining kratom with physical activity.

When it comes to sourcing kratom products, I've found that Herba Re-Leaf's products are a great place to look. They have the first product specifically measured and dosing consistently with a pharmaceutical-grade technology called herba-mizer. This takes care of a lot of the digestion problems associated with powders and raw form extracts, which addresses some concerns raised in this thread.

Overall, I'm excited to see where this journey takes me, and I believe kratom can be a valuable tool in achieving my fitness goals. If you're considering incorporating kratom into your routine, I'd recommend starting slow, experimenting with different strains and dosages, and paying close attention to how your body responds.

Hope this helps, and best of luck on your fitness journey!

h ttps://bit.ly/4aqrXJ5<3 - Link to main website page not the shop! I suggest reading up on the products first!

Cheers, JP!

my ex was addicted to it. she could sip on a drink mixed with it.

I took spoonfuls of the O.P.M.S silver Green Vein Meng Da powder and it didnt do chit really. Maybe those extracts are better but they are way over priced

Repped.


Yeah keep it small.

Don't mess with extracts, or even pills (especially gas station pills, those are garbage and unknown whats even IN them).

Stick to well known vendors, don't take too much (I did a few days ago, get dizzy/spinny but it passes in an hour or two). You can def tell when you're taking too much, but its far less harmful than getting drunk and you don't necessarily even puke when you do too much, you just feel crappy for an hour.

Absolutely agree with OPMS Being Indian Made and Garbage....

What are your thoughts on Herba Re-Leaf? Curious if you heard of them they have the first patient for an all green extract and teamed up with a bio pharmaceutical company to actually give a measured product.. They used to have a full store of many different types "Powders as well" I think they are bringing back soon. But if there is to be any success long term with the FDA it will have to come from an extracted area. They have never approved a raw powder. So I try to look for places on the front of the line doing the work and spending the money to research and develop the right way!

Withdrawals from it where worse than I expected.
Respect the plant!

Never heard of that, and I've been around the reddit kratom subs for years.

But like I said, I've only ever purchased extract once, and then never again, because weighing it out was a PITA, having to do math conversions etc wasn't worth it. Just chugging down 2 grams per dose is simply the best



Without you even listing what kind of amounts you were doing, this is a very suspicious post, possibly shill post.

No info listed, no symptoms, nothing listed but negative scare tactic.... = shill/fedposter.

If you want to F*CK a sloot really hard and not worry about cuming too soon, it's great. Sh*t numbs your dik (srs)

Haha right!

So you are a toss and wash guy?

Yeah I've tried it. It's definitely an interesting plant. I remember greens/white for energy, clarity, focus, slight euphoria, increased desire to be social, empathy. Reds to relax. I was going through a schit period many years ago and I recall red bali calming me down in the evening and helping me unwind.

Use with moderation, as with any other substance.

I use the pure leaf Maenga da before workouts and use Red kali just for general use for pain. Or the Red borneo if I have some serious back or knee issues.

Works for me, but may have to cycle off as the body builds a tolerance to it.

Yup, have it mastered to the point I rarely ever get that "dry" feeling or even flavor.


i prefer to use a bubbly soda as the base liquid, as I feel the bubbles help coat the powder so it becomes its own little bolus, and then goes down without ever touching my mouth or throat.

Yoooo legit statement on this one bud! hahahah the liquid shots do a good job at that.

I use it for my knees as well but I had to get away from the Raw Powder myself. My entire digestion system just could not handle that much ground up plant. Now grant you I have not used it exclusively for help in the fitness area it has mainly been for pain that I suffer from the neck down after some situations of life!


Thats when I found this company that was offereing something wayyyyy different then the rest on the market. Powders , Capsules Liquid extracts but never something like this pump is!

1 pump from it is equal to 1G of RAW Powder - without the "Powder"

I am thankfully away from the toss and wash method after trying many different things it was not a problem when it came to getting it down. Like you said you just have to find the right liquids to use. Orange Juice was good to take out the flavor of it.... my favorite was milk tho!

That blotter or whatever paper stuff helped to but way to inconsistent in covering all the powder haha

Would love for ya to check out "ww. herbapumps . com" as a few of stated on here you are going to want to know where you are getting your stuff from.... alot of it is mass stuff from india. This company seems to be the first that wants to do R&D Correctly and are pouring money into FDA Attorneys and the first patent in the industry for the extract method they figured out... No harsh **** in there stuff its made with vinegar and citrus concentrate.

Take it daily you will become dependant, fact.
have fun while it lasts or at least however long you can deny you have become addicted.

Extracts are fine just make sure you know where its coming from.... alot of the industry and gas station stuff online and off is coming from india... I only know of a select few companies trying to change that in the background and krakken and herba releaf are two of them.