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post 1699600233 03-23-2024, 08:56 AM
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Jesus survived the cross and is not God nor the son of God (proof from the Bible) SRS

I will prove that Jesus was saved from the humiliation of death on the cross. The Bible says:

"he that is hanged is accursed of God". (Deuteronomy 21:23)

God did work to save his Messiah/prophet from an accursed death on the cross. Jesus fervently prayed that the cup of death on the cross be removed. He said:

"O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me". (Matthew 26:39

The Bible further informs us that these supplications were heard and accepted:

"Who in the days of flesh when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he suffered". (Hebrews 5:7)

Jesus was alive when he was being taken off from the cross. A soldier pierced his side with a spear and blood and water came out which normally indicates life. The Bible says:

"But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side and forthwith came there blood and water". (John 19:34)

Jesus met his disciples after crucifixion and assured them of his life.

"And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them then came Jesus, the doors being shut and stood in the midst, and said, 'Peace be unto you'. Then saith he to Thomas. "Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands, and reach hither thy hand and thrust into my side and be not faithless, but believing". (John 20:26, 27)

Jesus was sent to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24) as he himself declared. It is historically proven that these lost Israelites had migrated to different eastern countries. Jesus in fulfillment of his heavenly mission, went to the lost Israelites and conveyed his prophetic message. He died a natural honourable death.


1. Jesus had prophesied that his fate would be like that of Jonah (the story of Jonah is one of survival).[Matt 12:40]. For the sign to be similar to that of Jonas, Jesus must have been alive in the after the incident of crucifixion.

2. Jesus was placed on the cross for only a few hours. Death by crucifixion usually takes several days. While he was on the cross his legs were left intact, and not broken as was the normal procedure. This would have prevented death by respiratory distress. As blood and water were reported to have 'gushed' from the spear wound, this was sign of a beating heart.

3. Jesus prayed to be rescued from death on the cross. [Matt 21:22] Pilate, having sympathy for Jesus, secretly devised to save him by setting his Crucifixion shortly before Sabbath day. The Gospel of John records that Nicodemus brought myrrh and aloes [John 19:39]. These healing plants, particularly aloe plants, are considered medicinal and applied to wounds. It would make little sense applying them to a dead body.

4. After he had awoken from his swoon ("resurrection"), Jesus bared his wounds to Thomas [John 20:25-27], showing he did not have a supernatural, resurrected body, but a wounded human body. He was also seen in the flesh by a large number of his followers, baring the same wounds that he had suffered from his ordeal on the Cross. [Luke 24:38-39]

5. After his wounds had sufficiently healed Jesus left the tomb and met some of his disciples and had his food with them and walked from Jerusalem to Galilee. [Luke 24:50]

6. In his post-crucifixion appearances, Jesus left the tomb in the darkness of night [John 20:1]; he appears to have been moving away from the source of danger[Luke 24:28-29]; he showed himself only to his disciples, people whom he trusted and not the general public[John 14:22]; and met them under the cover of darkness at night[John 20:19]. This behaviour is uncharacteristic of one who had just miraculously succeeded in defying death at the hands of his enemies, having been given a new eternal life with an immortal physical body, and is more consistent with one who had just survived it and was avoiding their (that is both the government agencies and the public) notice lest he be recaptured.

7. Jesus had prophesied that he would go to seek out the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel [John 10:16]. The Jews of Jesus's time believed that the Lost Tribes of Israel had become dispersed in different lands. [John 7:34-35] According to the Bible “He that is hanged is accursed of God.” [Deut 21:23]; since the word "curse" would signify a satanic connection, divine antipathy and displeasure, spiritual impurity, faithlessness and disobedience to God; Jesus' being from God and the beloved of God, does not allow for him to have become accursed at any moment and therefore for him to have died on a cross.

8. When Joseph requested Jesus' body from the cross [Mark 15:43], Pilate asked a centurion if Jesus was already dead [Mark 15:44]. The centurion confirmed that Jesus was already dead [Mark 15:45]. This centurion was a believer that Jesus was the son of God [Mark 15:39].

9. There are no accounts in the gospel of Jesus ascending into the heavens, aside from accounts that were absent from the earliest written gospels. After surviving crucifixion, Jesus fled to Galilee. Jesus (along with several disciples) later left Palestine to further preach the Gospel to the Lost Tribes of Israel [John 10:16] – that had scattered as far as Afghanistan and northern India. He eventually settled in Kashmir where he was given the name Yuz Asaf (meaning “Leader of the Healed”/"Son of Joseph")
post 1699600293 03-23-2024, 08:58 AM
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he tried to fight against the jews

thats all i need to know
post 1699600373 03-23-2024, 09:01 AM
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So a book written by many different men and translated through different languages is proof of anything?
post 1699600583 03-23-2024, 09:05 AM
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Muhammadan spotted

Go worship a rock
Follows Chestbrah's training routine crew
post 1699600943 03-23-2024, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra
"he that is hanged is accursed of God". (Deuteronomy 21:23)
That's the point. The crown ofthornswasn't a coincidence.
It's impossible to read the new testament and think it says that Jesus did not die on the cross.
Luke 9: 22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes,and be slain, and be raised the third day.
I guess "God's prophet" was lying when he said this?
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
1 Corinthians 15
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christdied for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And too many more... How many books of the NT do you think donotsay directly that Jesus died?
post 1699601073 03-23-2024, 09:18 AM
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Well, he did survive because he physically rose from the tomb brah.
post 1699601203 03-23-2024, 09:23 AM
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Man thats a lot of logical gymnastics when it only takes a few words to show verses from the Bible that he is the messiah lol
post 1699601703 03-23-2024, 09:35 AM
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