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post 1699689323 03-25-2024, 11:31 AM
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How are there huge markets now for all of this stuff? There's probably millions of ig personal trainers and influencers now training people and selling stuff.

I barely lift hard and I'm probably bigger than most of these dudes too smh
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post 1699689403 03-25-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By TryingMen
If you guys are looking for a real program that works I'm taking a couple more clients right now. Spots will fill fast though, PM me
3 spots left at my discounted rate at $299.99 per month spots will fill fast swipe up

always cringe my ass off at people posting that

like who tf would stop taking clients, it's literally free money lmao
post 1699690723 03-25-2024, 12:02 PM
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Sales/marketing 101 - create urgency
post 1699691543 03-25-2024, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By NinjaBoots
You can pay someone to help accelerate the time it takes to learn all of this stuff. You've been doing this for years so macros and which exercises to do are second nature to you. To a lot of people, they don't even know what a macro is, let alone what theright ratiosare to achieve what they are looking for.

They could spend a year or more going through trial and error and researching the way you likely did, or accelerate that and focus on the execution, and spend $20/month.
i think the bigger problem is that they think there's a magic ratio, when it's literally just recommended minimums for protein and fat --> fill the rest of your calories with whatever
post 1699692353 03-25-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot
3 spots left at my discounted rate at $299.99 per month spots will fill fast swipe up

always cringe my ass off at people posting that

like who tf would stop taking clients, it's literally free money lmao
As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
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post 1699707453 03-25-2024, 06:17 PM
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post 1699707643 03-25-2024, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4
As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
You should have just paid somebody else to do it like Josef Rakich
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post 1699707973 03-25-2024, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot
This guy Wes Watson makes over a million a month and he literally just copy/pastes his same workout plan to everyone

it's crazy how people will pay $5000 a month for his "business coaching" just to get scammed

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How stupid would you have to be to trust this guy?
post 1699707983 03-25-2024, 06:28 PM
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I’ll like an app where I can track everÿthing in one place and not have to bookmark and look all over. It’s 19.99 a month so it isn’t too expensive.
post 1699710743 03-25-2024, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts
How stupid would you have to be to trust this guy?
Most people don't realize they're being scammed.

Look at Liver King for example. People actually bought his supplements and diet plan.
post 1699711003 03-25-2024, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts
How stupid would you have to be to trust this guy?
Some people just get lucky with their scams
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post 1699711033 03-25-2024, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Most people don't realize they're being scammed.

Look at Liver King for example. People actually bought his supplements and diet plan.
and they still are

bro went "natural" after being exposed and now is back to blasting lmao
post 1699711563 03-25-2024, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4
As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
You should have just paid somebody else to do it like Josef Rakich
this

Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
post 1699711823 03-25-2024, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
this

Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
yeah

the top "influencers" outsource people from cheap places for them to do all the work while they are laying on the coach watching the money roll in

DevinPhysique did that but instead of hiring an indian he used some chick he knew and got cancelled from it
post 1699712873 03-25-2024, 08:28 PM
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not true, had some friends who worked in that industry, for some people just having someone to motivate them is worth the money
post 1699712973 03-25-2024, 08:31 PM
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It’s not that hard to gain mass lol. Eat good, be consistent. I made crazy gains in the gym when I’m consistent and eating good. I didn’t have to do a fancy routine, just PPL every day and switching things up occasionally

It’s really that simple
post 1699713613 03-25-2024, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
this

Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
No, not my style. I started coaching 2005. It was much different at that time...nothing like it is today.
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post 1699713723 03-25-2024, 08:57 PM
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I've thought about it, for cutting. If you fell off the wagon and had to check in I think that would help you stay on track. Never pulled the trigger though. I'd definitely go with an RP coach or someone science based like Lyle Mcdonald, hiring a random instragramer is indeed retarded. But yeah, if you know the basics there's not much a coach can do besides give you some accountability.
post 1699713763 03-25-2024, 09:01 PM
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Some people absolutely NEED them for accountability & motivation, OP.

I know people who had coaches & got great results, but legitimately needed to pay to be held accountable. As long as they know what they’re paying for, which they did, it seems fine to me.
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Originally Posted By kimm4
No, not my style. I started coaching 2005. It was much different at that time...nothing like it is today.
Well you can continue to have 'morals' or you can sell out and make loads of money off of unsuspecting and dimwitted participants - in the end your morals are mostly there as a base layer of conditioning from your environment, society, and yes, some of it is inherent, but you gotta ask yourself, is it worth transcending your humanity on this one?
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post 1699713923 03-25-2024, 09:05 PM
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I’ve always worked out, but consistency was the problem. Now I have someone who kicks my ass 4x per week in the gym and finally reaching places I haven’t.
post 1699713933 03-25-2024, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Strawng
Some people absolutely NEED them for accountability & motivation, OP.

I know people who had coaches & got great results, but legitimately needed to pay to be held accountable. As long as they know what they’re paying for, which they did, it seems fine to me.
yeah, i get what you're saying but

most coaches are fking garbage and just want your money

so while they are paying $300/month for "accountability" all they get is some half assed emails with no daily communication

I know guys that compete who have paid thousands of dollars on top coaches just for them to barely say anything or even care that they are working together

i agree a good coach who cares can be worth the money
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Some people simply cannot obey themself. A coach keeps them on track
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post 1699714593 03-25-2024, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot
shut your btch ass up i got 40k people following me on ig
whats ur ig?
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post 1699735193 03-26-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
this

Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
I started wondering about that as a lot of her responses seemed the same. So I started throwing things out there like remember when we started talking on that forum 10 years ago and how it was hard for me to do a lot of the upper body workouts with spine degeneration and bulging discs. Plus extreme bloating from the probiotics.

The forum part I got Indian-like responses but then she did send tailored responses for the upper-body workouts and extreme bloating.

What I gather is she has bots or Indians sending generic motivational posts and then if it's complicated they escalate the posts to her. I've seen this in the business world when people have a generic email address for a department.
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