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post 1700141443 04-20-2024, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
PSG winning after losing Messi and Neymar would be great. Will be hoping for BVB though
fuk PSG lmfao
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lmfao



in all seriousness though, does anyone feel this isn't the best coach from this century?

results + lols
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
lmfao



in all seriousness though, does anyone feel this isn't the best coach from this century?

results + lols
Dudes a lunatic and his teams were boring to watch. Recent article on espn showed how badly he treated Swienstieger at United for absolutely no reason.

I think at this point he’s a better fit as a national team coach tactically, but he also hates to play young players so that probably doesn’t work
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Dudes a lunatic and his teams were boring to watch. Recent article on espn showed how badly he treated Swienstieger at United for absolutely no reason.

I think at this point he’s a better fit as a national team coach tactically, but he also hates to play young players so that probably doesn’t work
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
lmfao



in all seriousness though, does anyone feel this isn't the best coach from this century?

results + lols
Mourinho is washed.
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Coventry!!!
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Mourinho is washed.
you serious?
Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Coventry!!!
lol @ United
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
you serious?



lol @ United
Imagine blowing a 3 goal lead after 70’…Ten Haag is done
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lmfao

I miss Comply_Or_Die
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
you serious?



lol @ United
Yeah I definitely realize he was good at Porto, Chelsea and Inter but he's kinda lost his magic touch imo. Hasn't been good in years.
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shame for Coventry

Leverkusen's perfect season also seems to be ending
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Yeah I definitely realize he was good at Porto, Chelsea and Inter but he's kinda lost his magic touch imo. Hasn't been good in years.
brah he won trophies with current day ManU

and he brought Roma to 2 consecutive European finals

what do you expect the man to do lmfao
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strong cup final

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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
Leverkusen's perfect season also seems to be ending
looks like I spoke too soon

unbelievable

dasitmane
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
brah he won trophies with current day ManU

and he brought Roma to 2 consecutive European finals

what do you expect the man to do lmfao
Him winning chit tier cups with teams who are the favourite isn't that impressive. He got cucked hard by Barca as well but you'll probably find one prize he won and call it a success.

Winning a EL with United and conference with Roma is nothing special compared to winning Champions Leagues and dominating the PL.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
brah he won trophies with current day ManU

and he brought Roma to 2 consecutive European finals

what do you expect the man to do lmfao
Roma are in 5th nearly 30 points back from first and finished last season 6th in Serie A, all with traditional power Juve in the dumps.

Not exactly impressive
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Him winning chit tier cups with teams who are the favourite isn't that impressive. He got cucked hard by Barca as well but you'll probably find one prize he won and call it a success.

Winning a EL with United and conference with Roma is nothing special compared to winning Champions Leagues and dominating the PL.
I didn't even mention his time at Real, probably the least of all his jobs if you look at the quality and results but he just had to compete with the arguably best team in the world at the time

and if you really believe winning anything with THAT ManU or Roma is nothing special I don't even know what to say

+ he also reached the EL final with Roma, didn't win but still impressive

and to win ANYTHING with Tottenham you need to be a literal wizard lmfao, can't hold that against him

and of course he peaked with Porto, Inter and Chelsea (in that order)

but you said he was washed and hasn't been good in years and I beg to differ

you honestly feel Guardiola winning the CL with City is a bigger achievement than those 2 finals with Roma?
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Roma are in 5th nearly 30 points back from first and finished last season 6th in Serie A, all with traditional power Juve in the dumps.

Not exactly impressive
he's not a miracle worker brah, can you honestly say he should've been a title contender with that material?

there's the 2 Milans, Juve, Napoli, ... all more quality
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
I didn't even mention his time at Real, probably the least of all his jobs if you look at the quality and results but he just had to compete with the arguably best team in the world at the time

and if you really believe winning anything with THAT ManU or Roma is nothing special I don't even know what to say

+ he also reached the EL final with Roma, didn't win but still impressive

and to win ANYTHING with Tottenham you need to be a literal wizard lmfao, can't hold that against him

and of course he peaked with Porto, Inter and Chelsea (in that order)

but you said he was washed and hasn't been good in years and I beg to differ

you honestly feel Guardiola winning the CL with City is a bigger achievement than those 2 finals with Roma?
Yes winning the treble with one of the best teams in the world is obviously bigger than just winning a conference with the favourite team in the entire competition.
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@Barteh and @ezmac31

to come back to the core of the discussion: please name a coach that impressed more this century and did it consistently
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Yes winning the treble with one of the best teams in the world is obviously bigger than just winning a conference with the favourite team in the entire competition.
damn, I guess Guardiola is the GOAT then

and to think he only had Barca, Bayern and City to work with

not srs
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
@Barteh and @ezmac31

to come back to the core of the discussion: please name a coach that impressed more this century and did it consistently
Jurgen Klopp for me. Actually doing so while playing attractive football instead of bunker ball too
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
damn, I guess Guardiola is the GOAT then

and to think he only had Barca, Bayern and City to work with

not srs
Maybe the best teams hire the best coaches and there's some correlation there. Ever think about that buddy?

To answer to your other posts, maybe Ancelotti and Pep are up there. Ancelotti has league wins in 5 different countries and 4 champions leagues to his name.

Van Gaal has some great achievements too but maybe not as consistent. His eredivisie win with AZ is probably more impressive than anything Mourinho has done in his career.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Jurgen Klopp for me. Actually doing so while playing attractive football instead of bunker ball too
he's definitely up there

I never had an issue with "bunker ball" to be honest, if it brings results they're right to do so
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Maybe the best teams hire the best coaches and there's some correlation there. Ever think about that buddy?

To answer to your other posts, maybe Ancelotti and Pep are up there. Ancelotti has league wins in 5 different countries and 4 champions leagues to his name.

Van Gaal has some great achievements too but maybe not as consistent. His eredivisie win with AZ is probably more impressive than anything Mourinho has done in his career.
Ancelotti also up there, Van Gaal as well obviously

Guardiola not even close

strange how you seem to devalue Mourinho's achievements tbh, he won the CL with Porto and Inter - let that sink in
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
he's definitely up there

I never had an issue with "bunker ball" to be honest, if it brings results they're right to do so
The bunker ball kind of depends on the context imo. When Greece does it during a euro cup or Inter against Barca and Bayern in the CL is makes sense.

Doing it with Real Madrid was a complete embarrassment though. Imagine if Brazil would play like that during a world cup. With some teams you just don't do that chit.
Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
Ancelotti also up there, Van Gaal as well obviously

Guardiola not even close

strange how you seem to devalue Mourinho's achievements tbh, he won the CL with Porto and Inter - let that sink in
I've clearly stated I value his achievements with Porto and Inter, I devalue the few he's had after that. What you're doing is completely devaluing Pep's achievements because of the teams he worked with. He obviously wasn't going up against scrubs either.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
The bunker ball kind of depends on the context imo. When Greece does it during a euro cup or Inter against Barca and Bayern in the CL is makes sense.

Doing it with Real Madrid was a complete embarrassment though. Imagine if Brazil would play like that during a world cup. With some teams you just don't do that chit.
how do you feel about the City - Real game this week? lol
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
how do you feel about the City - Real game this week? lol
Was a rough game, I think Real just kind of just got outclassed and didn't have much choice.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
The bunker ball kind of depends on the context imo. When Greece does it during a euro cup or Inter against Barca and Bayern in the CL is makes sense.

Doing it with Real Madrid was a complete embarrassment though. Imagine if Brazil would play like that during a world cup. With some teams you just don't do that chit.



I've clearly stated I value his achievements with Porto and Inter, I devalue the few he's had after that. What you're doing is completely devaluing Pep's achievements because of the teams he worked with. He obviously wasn't going up against scrubs either.
Yeah this was kind of my point. Playing bunker ball at United when playing the likes of Crystal palace shows me a manager that’s too rigid or who hasn’t evolved
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Yeah this was kind of my point. Playing bunker ball at United when playing the likes of Crystal palace shows me a manager that’s too rigid or who hasn’t evolved
That's 2-1 against belgbrah for Mourinho being washed now.

I honestly feel like his period at Real kinda destroyed him.
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