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Herman Gorring on going to war during a democracy

Gustave Mark Gilbert (September 30, 1911 – February 6, 1977) was an American psychologist best known for his writings containing observations of high-ranking Nazi leaders during the Nuremberg trials
The following is a famous exchange Gilbert had with Göring from this book:
Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
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The only difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a dictatorship you aren't lied to constantly.

Democracies make people believe they have a choice when they don't
Democracies make people believe their voice matters when it doesn't
Democracies make people believe that they know who's in charge, but they don't

There is no world where a democracy is the ideal form of government. it is the worst form of government imaginable, and it's more totalitarian than any dictatorship could ever be.
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fake

can't believe you idiots fall for this stuff.


but not surprised that the misc has become a hot bed for antisemites
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
fake

can't believe you idiots fall for this stuff.


but not surprised that the misc has become a hot bed for antisemites
What do you mean fake?

Did you bother reading it the content?

The psychologist who did their tests was an American-Jewish psychologist who published a book from his experiences. Why would he lie?
Gilbert was born in the state of New York in 1911, the son of Jewish-Austrian immigrants. He won a scholarship from the School for Ethical Culture at the College Town Center in New York. He attended the City College of New York where he majored in German before switching to psychology. In 1939, Gilbert obtained his PhD degree in psychology from Columbia University.
He was one of the psychologists of the Nuremberg. His book is widely available in bookstores -https://www.waterstones.com/book/nur.../9780306806612

It is called Nuremberg Diary.
Gilbert also administered IQ tests to the Nazi leadership. Hjalmar Schacht scored highest with 143 points, followed by Arthur Seyss-Inquart and Göring. Julius Streicher scored lowest with 106 points.[5][6]

In 1946, after the trials, Gilbert returned to the US. Gilbert stayed busy teaching, researching, and writing. In 1947 he published part of his diary, consisting of observations taken during interviews, interrogations, "eavesdropping" and conversations with German prisoners, under the title Nuremberg Diary. (This diary was reprinted in full in 1961 just before the trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem.)
Bro, why do you expect people to not hate on you when you are either:

- The same surface level denied because I do not like it idiot.

or

- You want to call it fake so people can think "Oh that is fake!".
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"only congress can declare war"

That should be true but it isn't. Vietnam was the last war declared by Congress. But Congress used the "Gulf of tonkin" false flag to manipulate a war so that wasn't American representation. Ultimately the deep state which includes the military industrial complex declares wars. Presidents are just puppets and go over Congress.
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But yes, that quote was true during WW2 times. America had to privatize weapons manufacturing to produce enough planes and bombs during WW2. Eisenhower was a smart man warning about the future military industrial complex. He's probably rolling in his grave.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
What do you mean fake?

Did you bother reading it the content?

The psychologist who did their tests was an American-Jewish psychologist who published a book from his experiences. Why would he lie?



He was one of the psychologists of the Nuremberg. His book is widely available in bookstores -https://www.waterstones.com/book/nur.../9780306806612

It is called Nuremberg Diary.




Bro, why do you expect people to not hate on you when you are either:

- The same surface level denied because I do not like it idiot.

or

- You want to call it fake so people can think "Oh that is fake!".
because you idiots think that everything you read is true and there's some great conspiracy to subvert us into doing israel's bidding.

that doctor could have lied, could have made things up, could have been pressured to say whatever they wanted him to say
Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2
"only congress can declare war"

That should be true but it isn't. Vietnam was the last war declared by Congress. But Congress used the "Gulf of tonkin" false flag to manipulate a war so that wasn't American representation. Ultimately the deep state which includes the military industrial complex declares wars. Presidents are just puppets and go over Congress.
lol take your tin foil hat off
Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2
But yes, that quote was true during WW2 times. America had to privatize weapons manufacturing to produce enough planes and bombs during WW2. Eisenhower was a smart man warning about the future military industrial complex. He's probably rolling in his grave.
you do realize that the military complex actually helps us stay in power right?

they create jobs, and help deal with recessions
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Is anyone buying this "democracy" schtick anymore? we all know that chits rigged and fake
i am frankly sick and tired of you. if you don't like it here then gtfo and go live in iran


this has got to be the most unpatriotic period of our country's existence
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
because you idiots think that everything you read is true and there's some great conspiracy to subvert us into doing israel's bidding.

that doctor could have lied, could have made things up, could have been pressured to say whatever they wanted him to say



lol take your tin foil hat off



you do realize that the military complex actually helps us stay in power right?

they create jobs, and help deal with recessions




i am frankly sick and tired of you. if you don't like it here then gtfo and go live in iran


this has got to be the most unpatriotic period of our country's existence
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
because you idiots think that everything you read is true and there's some great conspiracy to subvert us into doing israel's bidding.
that doctor could have lied, could have made things up, could have been pressured to say whatever they wanted him to say
The doctor was an American Jew, who was a prominent psychologist at that time and he was hired by the US gov...

What was his incentive to make the Nazis look smart?

In fact, the only incentive a Nazi would have is to make himself dumb or crazy like in a not guilty by insanity. But that wouldn't have worked because so much footage of them operating what was an impressive military and social operation (regardless of the fact it was anti-humanist).

That's the whole point I am trying to make.

And you double down on the so-called idiots whereas you automatically discredited some legit quantitative and qualitative data that paints the Nazis as not dumb. Whoever reads that and is not an untermensch would think that just because they were not dumbasses doesn't mean they weren't evil. There is almost no correlation between those two variables. Unlike what fat retarded Americans think when they profess their love for Israel.

Why would you paint this as a thing that furthers the Israel subversion theory?

If he lied about that, as an American Jew, for counterproductive reasons... could there be any lies about the Holocaust?

Love how you say people are tin-foiled idiots whereas you choose to ignore anything that is not aligned with your beliefs on top of creating conspiracies of your own.


You are either a real noseman or you have drawn the short stick on the Ashkenazi IQ spectrum.



That is like saying because General Shiro had 2 PhDs + MD + surgical residency and he pioneered biowarfare against the USA then he is the ultimate leader and should replace Trump, Biden or whatever.

Shiro as an interesting case btw. He was convicted of the same degree of war crimes (because they were literally on par) but his sentence was commuted so he can work with the US gov. Many PoW families were outraged as they wanted him hanged, but the US gov dismissed it as communist propaganda. You can read all about it, it has nothing to do with Jews.

This brings me to your other claims. US staying at power... at the expense of other countries right?


If you think like that... do you understand why you are a barbaric animal?
communist until you get rich
rightwing until financially secure
atheist until the plane starts falling
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muslim after you get married
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