Grifters on social media who say the things we want to hear. Obv

Maybe it was you just being a disingenuous liar?

He said people were x7 more likely to get myocarditis - when compared to rate of those getting it from the vaccine. So, if the chance of getting myocarditis from the vaccine is X%, covid itself is 7X% (and he's linked the study, I have not yet but will read it). My counter, at the time: I wanted to know those people getting myocarditis from covid, what group(s)? Was it everyone? A healthy 18 year old is as likely as a diabetic overweight 82 year old recovering from cancer and chemotherapy? I suspected that was not the case and that the group(s) were the same people that covid itself was threatening.

Now, I spelled it out nice and clear, please pretend you understood none of it and that I said something completely different and then argue against the strawman, maybe even fudge some numbers 'accidentally' to strengthen your position, while you plant your flag as the Champion of Science. You know, because science needs people to lie and use deception to defend it all of a sudden.

Thank you for finding the study.

This seems to be the relevant information (at least in terms of who was getting myocarditis). As to the results of the study, I trusted you from the start as, unlike some, I think you are genuine and honest, whether we see completely eye to eye or not.And, it did not specify whether the group(s) getting myocarditis from vaccine or covid were the same or not. Men and *younger* people seem more at risk. From covid itself as well? If so, this would be a blow to my original theory, that I didn't need it. If it is the case that the people getting myocarditis _from covid_ was dramatically different than the ones dying and being hospitalized, then at that point -- if vaccination lessened those chances (which we don't know for certain) then it would be a benefit.

The question is: While we do know the vaccines can lessen symptoms, does that include myocarditis? Oddly, the groups getting it are also the ones who are not being hospitalized or dying for the most part, possibly -- if that is the case (which was not worded clearly in the results).

Anyway, food for though. I am not someone who "needs to be right". I am open-minded and while this did not conclusively prove my stance wrong, it did open that door and I am willing to listen to more on the subject.

The same science that says if you're morbidly obese, with pre-existing conditions, and you got the original strain, that you might die, or suffer worse symptoms, vs someone who's fit and healthy?

So stupid and a pussy. Typical

Cool story..


Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2788346

Science is ever changing, unfortunately for the three stooges, yourself, JLC, and Bodhy, you seem to always think it changes to fit the narrative of the MSM and pharmaceutical companies..that's not how science works. Science is not to be manipulated and falsified.

It is different. Vaccine induced myocarditis is almost always mild and presents differently from the one caused by the virus. And I can find you that study later if you want, too. Yes, being vaccinated reduces your risk of viral symptoms, and that includes reducing the severity of the kind of myocarditis sometimes seen with a covid infection. These are all things your doctor could have told you, lol. That's why I keep telling people to ask their doctor.

Any update on why you decided to go against the recommendations of the experts at rhe CDC, and refused to get the first and second boosters?

That put your entire community at a greater risk.

Did you ask your doctor about the first and second boosters?

Fuk off, creep.

Interesting how you still, up to this day, cannot honestly answer that question.

False, mRNA vaccines result in spike protein expression in muscle tissue, the lymphatic system, cardiomyocytes and other cells after entry into the circulation. study posted above. Happy to post more if you need.

Nope, he said viral myocarditis is typically more severe than vaccine myocarditis.

He stated a fact. You made stuff up

Yes, vaccines (many) come with risk of myocarditis. Risk of myocarditis with covid vaccines isn't higher than the myocarditis risk with other vaccines.

So, it's just this jab..(which is not a vaccine), that we have to worry about myocarditis. Well that's comforting.

So what?

Nope.

Some have decided to focus exclusively on relative risk only related to covid vaccines while ignoring absolute risk and all other vaccines.

You are free to post the risks of all other vaccines if you like, this thread was addressing the Covid vaccine.

Would you like to start a new thread?

Nope.

I've shared the data many times. Can't see you, or others, reading it or paying attention this time. It counters the narrative and confirmation bias

Doctors Ordered To Euthanize MILLIONS of Vaccinated Patients to Cover-Up 'Disturbing' Side Effects
https://rumble.com/v4t0725-doctors-o...ver-up-di.html

If they're already dead or drying from vaccines, why would murder be required?

You puppet the narrative and are the embodiment of confirmation bias..I don't think anyone is disputing that

LMAO excellent question.

Gee..I'm guessing because it's expensive to keep someone on life support that is dying lol.

Are you both serious with that question. Just LMAO

But wouldn't life support costs be paid by patients to the very evil drug and healthcare corporations, further enriching them? Your logic is weak.

Okay

Can't sue the pharmaceutical companies for vaccine injury dum dum...but even if you do manage to get a case together, do you realize how costly that would be?

JUST LMAO..FFS urine idiot. Just go, you've proven time and time again you are a legit moron Wincel

No need to sue. There are margins in provision of life support - greater margins than in murder.

Cost my family over $10k...we did not receive these "provisions"...I'm guessing millions don't see these so called provisions as well

So the burden of proof that this is happening is contingent upon how someone answers your question? What a retarded gaslighting attempt.

German MEP Christine Anderson (just another conspiracy theorist according to J.L.C., Wincel, and nutsy):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k4Mppb9mbbhu/