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post 1703875871 07-19-2024, 10:25 AM
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Who believes Trump and Republicans would follow through with mass deportations?

I keep hearing how based it is that Trump and Republicans are finally supporting mass deportations. But people actually think they're going to follow through with it?

This would be such an uphill battle politically and media-wise it would have to be the top (and probably only) major priority of the administration. ICE would have to be massively expanded or an all new task force created. "Not using local law enforcement" like I've heard from the Trump campaign.

And the media coverage would be relentless. Images of families being pulled out of their homes and forced onto buses. Trump is the guy who buckled on family separation and told Stephen Miller to stop the program because the negative media coverage was too much for him. Crank up the media coverage about 50 notches.
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10-12 million illegals crossed into the US under Biden.


Unless you allow these people to stay, mass deportations have to occur.
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Originally Posted By leafs43⏩
10-12 million illegals crossed into the US under Biden.


Unless you allow these people to stay, mass deportations have to occur.
They do but do you honestly believe Republicans would carry them out?
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If you commit a crime or are on ANY sort of government assistance, you have to go back. Otherwise fukk it, let them stay until their court hearing. It's just too many damn people to try and round up. We have like 2M standing military, which they can't even carry out an operation in the borders, but just to give you an idea of the scale of the illegals, we would have to have every single US military serviceperson round up and deport 5-8 people. Not gonna happen.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
They do but do you honestly believe Republicans would carry them out?
Nope.
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Yep I'm a firm supporter of mass deportations but I just don't know how it could be done. There will be plenty of cities who resist it, and chit would get hung up well past a 4 year Republican term.

Once they're here, it's damn near impossible to kick them out. Brandon and crew knew exactly what they were doing by opening up the border.
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I can't say I have much confidence, but I don't want to go total doomer. At any rate, what's the alternative? Vote for a dem who wants to give illegals carte blanche?
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Originally Posted By John
Yep I'm a firm supporter of mass deportations but I just don't know how it could be done. There will be plenty of cities who resist it, and chit would get hung up well past a 4 year Republican term.

Once they're here, it's damn near impossible to kick them out. Brandon and crew knew exactly what they were doing by opening up the border.
It could be done but the administration would need to accept it that it would take basically a singular focus to accomplish it. No tax cuts, no major pieces of legislation
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Sure hope so. If he doesn't, it will be a major disappointment.
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Not gonna happen, it's every bit as impossible as a mass gun confiscation.



Those illegals are here to stay for the foreseeable future.


The only possibility is if Mexico experiences a manufacturing boom from US companies moving there, then Mexico will have a huge need for workers and illegals in the US and South America will go to Mexico instead.

I used to be against shipping jobs to Mexico, but now I see no other alternative to curb illegal migration.
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A better way, IMO, is to remove the illegals from free housing and remove them from Medicare and remove them from receiving compensation and incentives to stay of any kind.

Eventually, many will leave on their own. Not all, but a start.
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Originally Posted By John
Yep I'm a firm supporter of mass deportations but I just don't know how it could be done. There will be plenty of cities who resist it, and chit would get hung up well past a 4 year Republican term.

Once they're here, it's damn near impossible to kick them out. Brandon and crew knew exactly what they were doing by opening up the border.
You need people to self-deport. That requires cutting the benefits that attract them here and also improving their home countries.

A strong Mexico and Latin America has always been the true answer, and would also help us economically
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
A better way, IMO, is to remove the illegals from free housing and remove them from Medicare and remove them from receiving compensation and incentives to stay of any kind.

Eventually, many will leave on their own. Not all, but a start.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
You need people to self-deport. That requires cutting the benefits that attract them here and also improving their home countries.

A strong Mexico and Latin America has always been the true answer, and would also help us economically
Bingo. Like moths, turn off the flame, and they'll go away. Those who remain are those who work, and as far as I'm concerned they can stay and work.
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Take away their benefits, punish companies who hire them under the table, and they'll deport themselves.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
You need people to self-deport. That requires cutting the benefits that attract them here and also improving their home countries.

A strong Mexico and Latin America has always been the true answer, and would also help us economically
That's out of the US' control
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Of course he will he's literally Hitler!
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Trump realistically has to start small scale and focus and also shutting off the "valve" that allows illegals to come in to the US.
I would say start with illegals who have committed crimes here in the US. Things like murder, rape, assault etc. All of them to be deported immediately after serving time in US jails. Simultaneously prioritize migrant programs to help only those with families or perhaps senior citizens and/or females. Male illegals get no benefit or help or support and this will drastically reduce military-age males from coming to the US. Just some ideas; the point is that he cannot (or will not) be able to do a blanket ban on illegals nor will he be able to deport existing illegals in one go. There will be too much resistance from the Democrats and institutions who will be crying "human rights abuse".
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I think a bigger problem is reigning in the media. They shouldn't be allowed to spread lies and false reporting.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Take away their benefits, punish companies who hire them under the table, and they'll deport themselves.
This was already tried in the 90s. I was just a wee lad in the 1990s but I distinctly remember this discussion going on back then.


Blue states would pass laws forbidding local law enforcement from offering assistance to ICE agents unless the illegal was wanted for a violent crime. Without state cooperation, the ICE operations became too costly and they eventually had to abandon mass deportations.


Red states didn't formally pass laws forbidding their LEOs from cooperating with ICE, but they took a "look the other way" stance and never reported illegals to ICE. Why? Because they wanted that cheap labor.

And the gov never prosecuted any of those big farming companies that hired illegals under the table.


It just doesn't work.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Not gonna happen, it's every bit as impossible as a mass gun confiscation.
Why? The Clinton administration did it. I remember it even becoming a stereotypical joke as a kid about, "calling immigration" on people.

Similar legislation, even more harsh, would not only work for deportations but also deter border crossings.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
They do but do you honestly believe Republicans would carry them out?
I doubt it.
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Zero chance. All talk and saying BS that the base wants to hear.

Couldn't even get the wall up.
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Originally Posted By John
Yep I'm a firm supporter of mass deportations but I just don't know how it could be done. There will be plenty of cities who resist it, and chit would get hung up well past a 4 year Republican term.

Once they're here, it's damn near impossible to kick them out. Brandon and crew knew exactly what they were doing by opening up the border.
Remove their benefits so they cant get free food living and govt money they will starve them out real quick if that is done. They only survive off govt benefits, litteraly. That’s the only reason they came here to begin with not for opportunities. The opportunity to have a all bills paid life is what attracts illegal immigration, if that stopped they would never enter.
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Originally Posted By coldandchilly⏩
they do but do you honestly believe republicans would carry them out?
they are running on this message , if they don't , expect a blue wave at the mid terms because (r) voters are not going to believe their bs
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They want him dead for some reason. Illegals put the wages down.

Surely corporates are not happy if somehow they kicked all of their wage slaves out of the country.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Why? The Clinton administration did it. I remember it even becoming a stereotypical joke as a kid about, "calling immigration" on people.

Similar legislation, even more harsh, would not only work for deportations but also deter border crossings.
No they didn't, Clinton banned assault weapons but there was never a mass confiscation. And the assault weapons ban was eventually lifted and there are now more guns in the US than ever before.

Mass deportation is every bit as logistically impossible as a mass gun confiscation.


The only solution now is for the US to have even higher living costs AND for Mexico to have a booming manufacturing sector, so that these illegals will willingly go to Mexico.

We have to incentivize them to get the f/ck out.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Take away their benefits, punish companies who hire them under the table, and they'll deport themselves.
They need a better way of verifying a person's identity. Most use stolen SS#s to get jobs. The penalties have to be so harsh that a company just couldn't risk hiring an illegal so they're forced to put forth extensive measures to verify
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
No they didn't, Clinton banned assault weapons but there was never a mass confiscation. And the assault weapons ban was eventually lifted and there are now more guns in the US than ever before.

Mass deportation is every bit as logistically impossible as a mass gun confiscation.


The only solution now is for the US to have even higher living costs AND for Mexico to have a booming manufacturing sector, so that these illegals will willingly go to Mexico.

We have to incentivize them to get the f/ck out.
bro, we are talking about illegal immigration, the Clinton administration passed a bill that hosed illegal immigrants in 1996. I'm not talking about anything else(assault weapons ban)
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Take away everything that makes it easy for them to be here. Make it uncomfortable for them. While it would be nice if they rounded them all up and shoved them back over, politicians are too poosy to follow the laws because they will look like the bad guy.
We can do things on our own like not hire them and if you have a company working for you using them, fire that company. Our government isn't going to do anything, we have to take it in our own hands. Give them dirty looks and outwardly by body language and speech that you don't want them to be here. Eventually they will grow old of being under constant scrutiny and disdain. If their lives are made to be miserable, maybe they'll leave on their own. Sounds rotten but the fact is they are not welcome here by anybody other than Democrats that want their vote. We have plenty of issues to deal with here without getting burdened more by poor/uneducated/criminal/illegal unwanted invaders.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
I keep hearing how based it is that Trump and Republicans are finally supporting mass deportations. But people actually think they're going to follow through with it?

This would be such an uphill battle politically and media-wise it would have to be the top (and probably only) major priority of the administration. ICE would have to be massively expanded or an all new task force created. "Not using local law enforcement" like I've heard from the Trump campaign.

And the media coverage would be relentless. Images of families being pulled out of their homes and forced onto buses. Trump is the guy who buckled on family separation and told Stephen Miller to stop the program because the negative media coverage was too much for him. Crank up the media coverage about 50 notches.
Well, a big thing that would probably happen is many of the illegals who came in the past 4 years would leave voluntarily knowing that they won't have Biden to give them free stuff anymore. I bet at least 25% just leave on their own.

OF those remaining?

People who have lived here over 5 years? I would create a special process for them. But anyone who came within the past 4 years illegally?

Bye bye.
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