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post 1704193381 07-26-2024, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
This does get hard eventually.
Everybody thinks something would be easy or enjoyable until they do it, I'm not a big eater by nature and now that I'm dieting I want to binge on garbage... When I was "bulking" it was a chore to eat 3500 calories a day eventually, I only did it because that was the amount Rippetoe recommended.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Mirin. Although they measured "fat-free mass". That could include water weight as well. You will certainly gain a significant amount of water on 600mg
Here's the study. It's from 1996.
link:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8637535/
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
This does get hard eventually.
Bruh, I train 7 days a week natty and I don't have what it takes to do the whole enhanced lifter thing properly. You literally need to make money off of your body or have a trust fund to do that shyt.

Not just that - you need to have very specific genetics to actually succeed at it.
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post 1704193641 07-26-2024, 04:46 PM
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genetics > gear

I wish some miscers would do one cycle and realize how underwhelming it can be
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post 1704193721 07-26-2024, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
genetics > gear

I wish some miscers would do one cycle and realize how underwhelming it can be
That's what I was saying previously. Even on blast and cruise it's not like you take gear and just explode for years on end. You grow and then stall. Sometimes you need to train for years in between to get huge again through a growth phase, etc.

Some people just blow up on gear and turn out to be aesthetic af - the thing is most people are not like this. Some get zero results.
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juicing gives uglies a chance at life

it does nothing for handsome men and probably detrimental

Christian Guzman is a good example of this

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post 1704193751 07-26-2024, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
Here's the study. It's from 1996.
link:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8637535/
What were the increases in strength in the group that exercised but didn't take testosterone?
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post 1704193801 07-26-2024, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
What were the increases in strength in the group that exercised but didn't take testosterone?
You literally just quoted the results bro.
post 1704193821 07-26-2024, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
genetics > gear

I wish some miscers would do one cycle and realize how underwhelming it can be
if it's so underwhelming, why do so many miscers swear by it even with the risk of shutting down ur testicles?
post 1704193831 07-26-2024, 04:51 PM
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post 1704193871 07-26-2024, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Drop20lbs⏩
if it's so underwhelming, why do so many miscers swear by it even with the risk of shutting down ur testicles?
They don't - this isn't a steroid forum. Go to the steroid forums and ask them if it's that simple. Taking one drug and then getting a side effect, then another ot counter that side effect, etc.

People talk about it like "oh yeah I'll just take some tren and blow up" and then they take iit and get all sorts of sides and still look nothing like their fave influencer.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
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oh look, a jew spitting lies

nothin to see here
post 1704194001 07-26-2024, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Drop20lbs⏩
oh look, a jew spitting lies

nothin to see here
Everything he said was fax. HRT and TRT is only needed when you're actually low on T. Otherwise it's a burden. And if you take more than HRT done that's playing with fire.
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post 1704194021 07-26-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Drop20lbs⏩
if it's so underwhelming, why do so many miscers swear by it even with the risk of shutting down ur testicles?
well depends what they take and how they react to it

I said first cycle which is typically 500mg of test. scale will go up about 20 pounds, 5 - 10 of which is maybe lean tissue and thats me being generous

dont get me wrong steroids work, but ronnie coleman naturally will always look better than me blasting grams of gear
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post 1704194061 07-26-2024, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
People talk about it like "oh yeah I'll just take some tren and blow up" and then they take iit and get all sorts of sides and still look nothing like their fave influencer.
tren by far is the most ovverated compound of them all

i love when 150 pound twinks talk about taking tren not knowing it doesnt "blow you up" at all and is much better suited for other things
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
well depends what they take and how they react to it

I said first cycle which is typically 500mg of test. scale will go up about 20 pounds, 5 - 10 of which is maybe lean tissue and thats me being generous

dont get me wrong steroids work, but ronnie coleman naturally will always look better than me blasting grams of gear
20lbs is a lot pal (see username)

funny when geeks start comparing themselves to ronnie coleman

yes I realize ronnie is the best bodybuilder ever and well, ur just a random miscer. try using realistic examples
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yea i might want more kids soon, and yeah i know people have had kids while blasting, if theres even a 0.0001% chance that they could fuk up my balls ability to make healthy kids then i dont want it.


plus also the long terms effects of screwing with your blood pressure lipids liver/kidney function etc etc. im not trying to die before i see my grandkids just so i can have some more gains. im not a bodybuilder, lifting is just a hobby at the end of the day.


maybe like medium dose test when i get older sure. like an actual trt dose but obv higher.
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
tren by far is the most ovverated compound of them all

i love when 150 pound twinks talk about taking tren not knowing it doesnt "blow you up" at all and is much better suited for other things
TBH if I was going to cycle, I'd probably do 250-300 mg of test and not even 500. Also some GH in there before and after the test - whether pharma grade or peptides. I'd rather make use of the PEDs enhanced recovery than just brute force gains with high doses of PEDS. I've been training clean for 10 years now and TBH sometimes the best gains are those over the long term that come from hard work. Even when you so a cycle, most of it isn't even muscle, it's just bloat. Very hard to put on quality muscle, even with gear.

The thing about gear though is it gives you a certain look. 220 pounds on gear isn't that same as 220 pounds natty. Then you get off of the gear and the enhanced look goes away. I am 250 lbs now. If I took gear and cut to 220, i would look twice as big.
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Originally Posted By Drop20lbs⏩
20lbs is a lot pal (see username)
see the lean tissue part pal
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Originally Posted By shmobin⏩
You literally just quoted the results bro.
It doesn't say the strength increases for the exercise group given the placebo
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
It doesn't say the strength increases for the exercise group given the placebo
I recall the study. the group who trained without peds gained roughly 4 lbs, the group who took roids and didnt train gained 7 lbs...
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
I recall the study. the group who trained without peds gained roughly 4 lbs, the group who took roids and didnt train gained 7 lbs...
Yeah but they also measured strength increases in squat and bench press for all groups. I wanna know what the strenght increase in the group that lifted without roids was. I could be retarded and just missing it though.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
What were the increases in strength in the group that exercised but didn't take testosterone?
Here you go, I found the link to the full study
link:https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...43350101#sec-2

MUSCLE STRENGTH
Muscle strength in the bench-press and the squatting exercises did not change significantly over the 10-week period in the group assigned to placebo with no exercise.

The men in the testosterone-alone and placebo-plus-exercise groups had significant increases in the one-repetition maximal weights lifted in the squatting exercises, averaging 19 percent and 21 percent, respectively (Table 4 and Figure 1).

Similarly, mean bench-press strength increased in these two groups by 10 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

In the testosterone-plus-exercise group, the increase in muscle strength in the squatting exercise (38 percent) was greater than that in any other group, as was the increase in bench-press strength (22 percent).



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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
Here you go, I found the link to the full study
link:https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...43350101#sec-2

MUSCLE STRENGTH
Muscle strength in the bench-press and the squatting exercises did not change significantly over the 10-week period in the group assigned to placebo with no exercise.

The men in the testosterone-alone and placebo-plus-exercise groups had significant increases in the one-repetition maximal weights lifted in the squatting exercises, averaging 19 percent and 21 percent, respectively (Table 4 and Figure 1).

Similarly, mean bench-press strength increased in these two groups by 10 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

In the testosterone-plus-exercise group, the increase in muscle strength in the squatting exercise (38 percent) was greater than that in any other group, as was the increase in bench-press strength (22 percent).



Intesting. Kinda crazy that even strength increased about the same without even practicing the lifts.
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
Tried to get on trt, test came back at 736 all natural at 43 years old and they rejected me. (Wrong age on profile, can't be bothered to change it)

Debating on whether leaving humanity behind. What do?
At 43 years old, I absolutely would
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
why should i **** up my hormonal levels (maybe for good) if i'm not a pro athlete and i'm not making any money out of it?

for posturing? seems low iq.
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